Bulk or Cut? 195 lbs 17 y/o

[JB211]

What you guys think? Bulk up to 200 or cut down?
Posted this on the pics section, but no one wants to see a fat fuarkkk I guess. lol

[Dosanjh71]

What you guys think? Bulk up to 200 or cut down?
Posted this on the pics section, but no one wants to see a fat fuarkkk I guess. lol

might as well bulk up to 300..srs





not srs

[JustBulk]

See my username.

[alexwhiteboy1]

Small cut, then clean bulk.

[Bruno93]

If you're going to keep bulking, do it for more than a simple extra 5 lbs. 5 lbs won't make much difference. IMO if you're going to bulk, bulk up to 220-230 lbs. If not, just cut until you have visible abs and then clean bulk again.

[JB211]

Small cut, then clean bulk.

Should I go down to about 185 or so? And then start the clean bulk?

[Bruno93]

Should I go down to about 185 or so? And then start the clean bulk?

Not. If you cut from 195 to 185 lbs, most of it will be water weight.

[JB211]

Not. If you cut from 195 to 185 lbs, most of it will be water weight.

Alright how low you think I should go? Also, When dieting what would be the best route to go IIFYM or just clean eating with macro tracking?

[Bruno93]

Alright how low you think I should go? Also, When dieting what would be the best route to go IIFYM or just clean eating with macro tracking?

IMO I think you should just keep bulking. If you can't stand the ammount of fat you have right now, then cut to whatever weight puts you at 10-12% bf (visible abs) and then resume clean bulking. Clean eating with macro tracking is IIFYM. If you mean eating "crap" food, I'd probably go against it, at least when dietting. It's not very filling and more often than not, it has ****ty macro breakdown.

[JB211]

IMO I think you should just keep bulking. If you can't stand the ammount of fat you have right now, then cut to whatever weight puts you at 10-12% bf (visible abs) and then resume clean bulking. Clean eating with macro tracking is IIFYM. If you mean eating "crap" food, I'd probably go against it, at least when dietting. It's not very filling and more often than not, it has ****ty macro breakdown.

Yeah, I think Im going to bulk until around the start of February. And then lean down to 10% bf and pretty much take whatever clean foods im eating then and just up the macros to clean bulk. And I just figured my macros if I were to cut right now would be 2400 Cal/ 218 Carb/ 224 Protein/ and 68 Fat. AS opposed to what i have been doing on my bulk 3200 Cal/ 440 Carb/ 107 Fat/ And 160 Protein. Not quite sure if those seem right or ?

[Bruno93]

Yeah, I think Im going to bulk until around the start of February. And then lean down to 10% bf and pretty much take whatever clean foods im eating then and just up the macros to clean bulk. And I just figured my macros if I were to cut right now would be 2400 Cal/ 218 Carb/ 224 Protein/ and 68 Fat. AS opposed to what i have been doing on my bulk 3200 Cal/ 440 Carb/ 107 Fat/ And 160 Protein. Not quite sure if those seem right or ?

I'd drop the fat to the 60-70s and up the protein for your current bulk. For cutting, I'd take 500 cals off the 3.2k you currently bulk with, so 2700, with those 500 less cals being from carbs (so less 125g of carbs).

[Bentley41]

What you guys think? Bulk up to 200 or cut down?
Posted this on the pics section, but no one wants to see a fat fuarkkk I guess. lol

You needa cut bitch tits

[JB211]

I'd drop the fat to the 60-70s and up the protein for your current bulk. For cutting, I'd take 500 cals off the 3.2k you currently bulk with, so 2700, with those 500 less cals being from carbs (so less 125g of carbs).

Thanks for the help man, repped. As for when I clean bulk, will I be more flexible to eat not so clean foods as opposed to when im cutting with clean food?

[Bruno93]

Thanks for the help man, repped. As for when I clean bulk, will I be more flexible to eat not so clean foods as opposed to when im cutting with clean food?

Yeah it's easier to fit in those foods when you're on a surplus. When dietting it's harder, especially when you're getting too low on cals.

[alberster]

cut

[Terminatah]

cut bro, had the same issue. Do like 8 week cut, get rid of the excess body fat, you will look bigger.

[JB211]

Appreciate all the responses bros! I will mostly likely start this cut sometime around January just to look good for the summer and get rid of all this fat. Then most likely lean bulk for the most part at least. Thanks!