Brahs get into nursing seriously.

[PaC-mAn8]

I'd suggest you move here and get all the papers and become Canadian citizens while he is still young so he can do elementary, high school and apply for medschool.

Yes you can send him here and he can get a visa as a student but the applications are extremely competitive and they mostly take in province students. If he's not an in-province student his chances to get in are slim to none even if he gets in he will pay 40k/year if he's not a Canadian citizen.

Any idea on what the job outlook is like for nurses in Canada.....and what the transition is like from the states?

[DarkOmen]

Any idea on what the job outlook is like for nurses in Canada.....and what the transition is like from the states?

There is a huge need for nurses in Canada. There's a shortage of nurses and doctors, so you will find work quite easily. As for the transition I'm not really aware, I know that Canadian nurses have an easy transition when they move in the states so I suppose you wouldn't have a problem for transition.

[datderelowtes]

Bang bang bang boom boom

[Vinz-]

There is a huge need for nurses in Canada. There's a shortage of nurses and doctors, so you will find work quite easily. As for the transition I'm not really aware, I know that Canadian nurses have an easy transition when they move in the states so I suppose you wouldn't have a problem for transition.

any idea how the pay is for Canadian nurses? specifically ontario if possible

[ManimalGainz]

So much ignorance in this thread I dont even know where to begin.


Just LOL at all these yolos thinking being a doctor is the life:

"brb making 400k/yr hardy har har har"
"brb figuring out how to spend all that paper LULZ"




LOL. Ok Jeff. Shure thing.......I can answer the question to "How would I spend all that cash?," and the answer is you wont because youll spend all your life working. When youre not working youre on call. No way in the world I would ever be a doc. The lifestyle they live sucks. Some docs I know take call a week at a time.

brb go to the hospital 3-4 times a day
brb getting called all night long by nurses
brb cant drink or do anything "after work" cause Im on call

Not to mention the possibility of lawsuits. No thx Jeff. At least as a nurse, when I clock out I clock out completely. I never take work home with me. When I leave, what happens at the hospital doesnt concern me in the least. The only docs that I would even consider is an ER doc, cause they usually dont take call. But as for hospitalists, surgeons, and hospital specialists I would never do it in a million years.

[South Side Stev]

I start clinical in weeks after christmas break. im excited and nervous. any tips?

couple girls told me you need PhD after 2015 to become NP, CRNA, midwife, clinical specialist is that true?


I agreed.

It isn't a PhD. That is a legitimate degree. The DNP is a non clinical doctorate born out of nursing's inferiority complex.

It adds nothing to the provider clinically, just a useless title. Which is misleading and should only be used in an academic setting.

[Ted Nugent]

why not consider other specialities instead of just being an ass wiping nurse? ive heard that radiologists make bank too, and im sure there other specialization's like that where you can make great coin without all the drawbacks of in the trenches nursing

[Babba]

So much ignorance in this thread I dont even know where to begin.


Just LOL at all these yolos thinking being a doctor is the life:

"brb making 400k/yr hardy har har har"
"brb figuring out how to spend all that paper LULZ"




LOL. Ok Jeff. Shure thing.......I can answer the question to "How would I spend all that cash?," and the answer is you wont because youll spend all your life working. When youre not working youre on call. No way in the world I would ever be a doc. The lifestyle they live sucks. Some docs I know take call a week at a time.

brb go to the hospital 3-4 times a day
brb getting called all night long by nurses
brb cant drink or do anything "after work" cause Im on call

Not to mention the possibility of lawsuits. No thx Jeff. At least as a nurse, when I clock out I clock out completely. I never take work home with me. When I leave, what happens at the hospital doesnt concern me in the least. The only docs that I would even consider is an ER doc, cause they usually dont take call. But as for hospitalists, surgeons, and hospital specialists I would never do it in a million years.

Yeah. because doctors HAVE to work in hospitals.

[mansauce89]

no thanks. dealing with sick people is depressing

[LaCosaNostra90]

Gonna marry a female nurse, minimum. Shooting for Doctor though.

[swimmd99]

MD brah checking in.....I work with a lot of nurses that are guys.....In a code (which we have a lot of due to the instability of our patients) I would rather have a room full of guys than women srs.....same for a procedure or emergency lines, etc.

If a guy panics during a code he tends to freeze and you can usually yell or hit him to draw him back in.....women nurses, when they panic, get hysterical which results in me having them removed from the room

it's also great because you don't have to walk on egg shells with guy nurses. One time 3 of us were sitting there talking about girls at the gym when a patient coded, we got up did our stuff and when the situation was over sat back down and got right back to the conversation

[swimmd99]

So much ignorance in this thread I dont even know where to begin.


Just LOL at all these yolos thinking being a doctor is the life:

"brb making 400k/yr hardy har har har"
"brb figuring out how to spend all that paper LULZ"




LOL. Ok Jeff. Shure thing.......I can answer the question to "How would I spend all that cash?," and the answer is you wont because youll spend all your life working. When youre not working youre on call. No way in the world I would ever be a doc. The lifestyle they live sucks. Some docs I know take call a week at a time.

brb go to the hospital 3-4 times a day
brb getting called all night long by nurses
brb cant drink or do anything "after work" cause Im on call

Not to mention the possibility of lawsuits. No thx Jeff. At least as a nurse, when I clock out I clock out completely. I never take work home with me. When I leave, what happens at the hospital doesnt concern me in the least. The only docs that I would even consider is an ER doc, cause they usually dont take call. But as for hospitalists, surgeons, and hospital specialists I would never do it in a million years.

not true. you could find jobs as an MD with minimal call if that's what you wanted.....that salary is high, especially starting for most specialties and should probably be halved, with a good portion going to paying back loans

EM could be a great specialty if EDs were truly for emergencies but it's basically a combination of the worst possible clinic with drug abusers and an occasional trauma. I say occasional because even if it's a trauma center the ED doc is not doing most of the trauma work and they only see a small percentage of what comes through the doors. At large academic centers there are other specialties that come deal with the trauma as well

[Diamondzzz]

How are the bitches in nursing school/ at the hospital? They easy to smash?

[MiightyMiike]

I was working at a dealership for 12 years and decided to change careers. Spent the last year doing prereqs and I got accepted into a nursing program.

Will be starting in January, any advice brahs?

[Daegus]

Because some of us don't want to be in school til we are 30, compiling tons of debt, being broke as fcuk and being miserable through our 20's.

No thnx jeff, maybe when I'm past 35.

BRB done at 22
BRB zero debt
BRB 65k job lined up already

That isn't entirely true depending on how you go about getting through the schooling.

It's a lot harder to do it later in life than earlier.

I was working at a dealership for 12 years and decided to change careers. Spent the last year doing prereqs and I got accepted into a nursing program.

Will be starting in January, any advice brahs?

Understand you won't be able to learn everything and you never will.
Time management is key.

[WafflesBrah]

Yall need to check in for RT ( Respiratory Therapy), in 2 years with an associates degree you can make around 50k or more depending on where you work and live. You work 3 days a week 12 hours shifts for the most part and you can work a side job also if you want on your 4 days off. So you're making decent salary and it's not as stressful as nursing is. Beware though, you will need to study everyday if you plan on going into the program. Half of my class dropped out after the second exam lol in the first course.

[Improve573]

Thought of going into nursing but decided against it. If i wanted to do something medical I would definitely be a doctor instead. No hate to nurse brahs, good friend of mine is in nursing school and loves it.

Going to get my bachelors in Biology, mcat practice tests, take the mcat and finally apply to a med school.

[StudmuffiN45]

To the guy above^^^
Shadowed a cardiologist, dude made 500+ according to him, but worked 7 days a week and 70+ hours. You can make huge money, but you work a ton. You don't have to work in a hospital though, depending on your specialty you can do private practice, and you drop down to a more reasonable 40-55 hours a week and still make 200+ very easily. As a nurse, PA, NP, you are still throwing in 40-50 hours a week if you want to make real money (especially nurses, gf works as a night nurse, that 45$ an hour overtime pay). The doctors I've shadowed said be a surgeon (set surgeries, work 4 days a week), or skip medicine altogether and be a dentist if all you care about is money. Nursing is a great career, its quick and you start out with good money with a ton of room for advancement.

[xMetalocalypse]

Yall need to check in for RT ( Respiratory Therapy), in 2 years with an associates degree you can make around 50k or more depending on where you work and live. You work 3 days a week 12 hours shifts for the most part and you can work a side job also if you want on your 4 days off. So you're making decent salary and it's not as stressful as nursing is. Beware though, you will need to study everyday if you plan on going into the program. Half of my class dropped out after the second exam lol in the first course.

Brb possibly the most over saturated career out there. I think the average ratio of grads to job openings was like 1 in 5, no joke.

Thread was pretty good until the e stats popped up. Average nursing salary is 64,000 about. Wtf is with every nurse in this thread making 80+?

[DarkOmen]

To the guy above^^^
Shadowed a cardiologist, dude made 500+ according to him, but worked 7 days a week and 70+ hours. You can make huge money, but you work a ton. You don't have to work in a hospital though, depending on your specialty you can do private practice, and you drop down to a more reasonable 40-55 hours a week and still make 200+ very easily. As a nurse, PA, NP, you are still throwing in 40-50 hours a week if you want to make real money (especially nurses, gf works as a night nurse, that 45$ an hour overtime pay). The doctors I've shadowed said be a surgeon (set surgeries, work 4 days a week), or skip medicine altogether and be a dentist if all you care about is money. Nursing is a great career, its quick and you start out with good money with a ton of room for advancement.

Cardiologists work a lot because they have their own patients to take care off and they're on call.

ER docs on the other side are never on call. They work shifts. 10 shifts 12 hours per month and they pull close to 400K according to the ER doc I worked with during my emergency rotation. It's the best lifestyle specialty IMO, you work your shifts and then walk away from the hospital, no call no nothing until your next shift.

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[Coolhandsluke]

It seems like the nursing industry has been trumpeted as a go to career for a decade + now, is it not getting over saturated yet?

Kind of like IT has, or hell even Attorneys

[xMetalocalypse]

It seems like the nursing industry has been trumpeted as a go to career for a decade + now, is it not getting over saturated yet?

Kind of like IT has, or hell even Attorneys

It is, but there are so many ways to stand out in nursing (like getting a BSN, which the majority of nurses don't have) that it is still pretty easy to get a job. Same goes with IT.

[JoshSP1985]

can confirm...wife is a nurse and she works 4 days a week between 2 hospitals and pulled in almost $100k this year

East Coast numbers, my wife is a BSN RN worked 1 year in TICU (sicked people in the hospital) and just finished her 1st year as a Surgery nurse she made lil over 50k.

[JoshSP1985]

It seems like the nursing industry has been trumpeted as a go to career for a decade + now, is it not getting over saturated yet?

Kind of like IT has, or hell even Attorneys

It is, it's saturated in some markets especially with how easy it was/is to get degress through some of the community colleges. Gotta check the activity in your region some are nurse heavy some arent.

[South Side Stev]

You don't have to work in a hospital though, depending on your specialty you can do private practice, and you drop down to a more reasonable 40-55 hours a week and still make 200+ very easily. The doctors I've shadowed said be a surgeon (set surgeries, work 4 days a week), or skip medicine altogether and be a dentist if all you care about is money.

Not sure you understand what private practice is. Private practice is a non academic hospital. You are typically you're own business and rent office space from the hospital or other leasing agent. As opposed to academia where you are salaried by the institution and clinic space/staff is provided. Neither of these have anything to do with hospital privileges or not.

Most types of medicine require hospital responsibilities, its just part of it. With the rise of hospitalists, internal medicine/family practice docs are able to avoid rounding and just do clinic only.

Not sure what surgeons you shadowed that only worked 4 days a week, but that is not the norm. Surgeons make their money in the OR, but they also have to do clinic and rounds. That is a 5 day schedule plus rounding on call weekends.


I also got a chuckle out of the guy who think he will pull 400k as a Canadian doctor. A good number of US docs dont see 400k, so good luck getting that in the socialized medicine of Canada.

[aryannation]

saturated depends on where.

Most major cities? Yep.

Can you still make double/triple average big city wage in a huge variety of suburban/country areas if you're willing to move to a shortage? Yep.

[Surive123]

To the guy above^^^
Shadowed a cardiologist, dude made 500+ according to him, but worked 7 days a week and 70+ hours. You can make huge money, but you work a ton. You don't have to work in a hospital though, depending on your specialty you can do private practice, and you drop down to a more reasonable 40-55 hours a week and still make 200+ very easily. As a nurse, PA, NP, you are still throwing in 40-50 hours a week if you want to make real money (especially nurses, gf works as a night nurse, that 45$ an hour overtime pay). The doctors I've shadowed said be a surgeon (set surgeries, work 4 days a week), or skip medicine altogether and be a dentist if all you care about is money. Nursing is a great career, its quick and you start out with good money with a ton of room for advancement.

Dental Student checking in, and lol'ing. Physician's with no concept of the field of dentistry say this.

brb' 200-500k in debt getting out of school
brb' starting salary in Chicago is 85k
brb' buying into a practice is another 500-1+ mil
brb' bank owns you

[PaC-mAn8]

That isn't entirely true depending on how you go about getting through the schooling.

It's a lot harder to do it later in life .

Well obviously that doesnt apply if you do it as a second career.

Most places its just a year or two for pre reqs and from there you apply to a program and complete it in 2 years. And associates is even quicker but its become useless at this point unless you want some chit job in a nursing home.

[ralphlaurenbrah]

Yall need to check in for RT ( Respiratory Therapy), in 2 years with an associates degree you can make around 50k or more depending on where you work and live. You work 3 days a week 12 hours shifts for the most part and you can work a side job also if you want on your 4 days off. So you're making decent salary and it's not as stressful as nursing is. Beware though, you will need to study everyday if you plan on going into the program. Half of my class dropped out after the second exam lol in the first course.

That job is terrible. I would honestly drop out if I were you. Worst job in medicine prob.