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    Don't do NoPorn/NoFap (srs)

    Did it for almost 1,5 years after quitting cold turkey. First week or two you get more horny, but after that you will flatline. People say it will pass after a few weeks, but it won't.

    What will happen for you if you do nofap/noporn

    - Your libido will go down, really down
    - You will start being able to talk to women, not being afraid anymore. You know why? because you have no interest in ****ing them
    - If you do manage to **** a girl, odds are that you won't be stimulated at all

    Started watching again a few days ago, damn libido is through the roof and I'm finding my interest in girls again.
    Unless you have a chick that you can **** whenever you want, don't do it bro's.

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    Can't get hard with a condom on anymore crew because of porn.
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    actually it does pass you're just a phaggot. Excessive pr0n desensitizes you to the point where you practically get whiskey dink (no lie). Get on that no fap/no pron and you become leonidas
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    interdasting. been on no fap for 100+ days now, and labido is through the rough. maybe helps that I have a gf now? but either way, I've yet to notice a drop in drive since no fap. sorry for your dead balls op
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    just ended at 100 days two days ago, right before that, i almost popped a boner when some chick was doing hyperextensions next to me
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    Stopped watching porn just because it makes me want to have sex with my wife.
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    Originally Posted by Janato View Post
    just ended at 100 days two days ago, right before that, i almost popped a boner when some chick was doing hyperextensions next to me
    It only works if you are already gettin laid. Chaos and pain has an article on this, I had the same prob op.
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    Originally Posted by l2ambo View Post
    Can't get hard with a condom on anymore crew because of porn.
    Didn't have that problem before noporn, a week ago still had that problem

    Originally Posted by HelloLadies View Post
    actually it does pass you're just a phaggot. Excessive pr0n desensitizes you to the point where you practically get whiskey dink (no lie). Get on that no fap/no pron and you become leonidas
    lol go phaggot. Most people that are on noporn/nofap can't even do it for past a month, I've been at it for 1 year and 3 months, just shut your piehole.
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    I believe that drop in libido is usually the result of a drop in sexual activity. So yes, if you go long-term no fap and also have a mad dry spell your libido is going to go to chit.

    Cliffs:
    -use porn sparingly during dry spells.
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    Originally Posted by chino3 View Post
    interdasting. been on no fap for 100+ days now, and labido is through the rough. maybe helps that I have a gf now? but either way, I've yet to notice a drop in drive since no fap. sorry for your dead balls op
    Originally Posted by gymratmatts View Post
    Stopped watching porn just because it makes me want to have sex with my wife.
    That's why I said this: " Unless you have a chick that you can **** whenever you want, don't do it bro's."

    If I had a chick on the regular, there would be no need for porn, but put in only sex for 2~6 times a month, depending on the month, it will desensitize you the same way excessive porn will.

    Originally Posted by mitchyb View Post
    I believe that drop in libido is usually the result of a drop in sexual activity. So yes, if you go long-term no fap and also have a mad dry spell your libido is going to go to chit.

    Cliffs:
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    ^ basically this.
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    I have all that problems OP listed except I can't stop fapping/porn. Wut do?
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    when i fap, i break out. srs. only reason i do no fap
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    lol at phaggots that dont fap, its healthy for you...just dont do it every day or you'll break out like me
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    Quoting own posts from other NO FAP threads. Sick of seeing unhealthy logic regarding sexuality on the misc.

    Originally Posted by 350blaze View Post
    NO FAP, along with NO PORN make no sense whatsoever. There is the marginal test spike on the 7th day of no fap that has been proven, but if you can hold out for 7 days I got some bad news about your base test levels. That test spike would be the only perceivable benefit, but it makes no difference for gains, social confidence or anything else. Here are some more suggestions as to why both these phenomena are stupid:

    First, NO FAP:
    So let's say no fap is a placebo and helps drive you to get out more and interact with women. What happens when you have sex? All no fap test gains are gone. Then there are other colloquial theories that state that when you have a gf/fb/etc. you attract more women, even if they don't know you are taken. If true, this would in part be due to your lack of desperation/levels of sexual satisfaction, so if you don't have a gf it would make sense to fap every so often in order to not feel horny around women 24/7. Either this or you are radiating a cocktail of pheromones from both you and your gf and this is what is attracting other women. Regardless, there is no acknowledged scientific explanation of this gf = more women theory, or if it even holds in all scenarios. Moral of the story is it's better to be sexually satisfied than not, so fap away.

    Next, NO PORN:
    Whether you are masturbating or having sex, fantasy is always involved. Even if the content of the fantasy is the sex act you are currently participating in, or nothing, a brick wall, something you saw on tv last night, it is still fantasy. Sexual activity always has a mental component and fantasy is always more complicated, vivid and chaotic than any porn, I don't care what kind of fetish porn you are watching. All this talk of rewiring your brain and causing short attention span or lack of desire for something real and tangible as opposed to the madness of porn makes no sense. Your brain left to its own devices when engaged in masturbation or sex will jump around and lead you places no porn ever could.

    If the argument then runs that porn stunts your imagination it still makes no sense. If an individual is so focussed on porn and porn based scenarios/fantasies and that is all they think about during sex it makes no difference to your sexual partner. Sexual fantasy is always impregnable for the other, two parties participate in the act but the fantasy always runs parallel and without intersection. Lacan called it the impossibility of the sexual relation. It basically means that because of the mental component in sexuality, sex is simply masturbation with a partner.

    If the argument then turns to porn leads to unrealistic ideas about sex which can't be replicated in the real world, it is simple. If you want to have porn style sex and your partner does not, get a new partner, this is a standard case of sexual incompatibility. In summation, keep fapping, keep those tabs open and make sure you click on all the hnnngg threads.
    Originally Posted by 350blaze View Post
    Exactly, so why is introducing a hand to assist with ejaculation bad? Fantasy is also involved in wet dreams. The only valid argument I didn't deal with in post #118 is the so called death grip argument which also makes little sense. If you cannot adjust between masturbation and sex you are masturbating incorrectly. If you claim to feel less sensitive during sex after masturbating too much you have damaged your dink using an incorrect technique. Masturbation does not necessarily lead to death grip, nerve ending damaging 18 hour sessions of debauchery. That people develop sensitivity problems from masturbation does not mean that masturbation in and of itself is somehow bad for you, thus NO FAP is still a stupid idea. Plus who wants to change their sheets every 2-3 days?
    Originally Posted by 350blaze View Post
    I'm more interested in debunking this NO FAP movement as a general idea to be followed than sharing any diary entries, hence my formal tone. All I'll say is that if I am not getting regular sex I masturbate every second day at the latest. If I don't scratch the itch before the third day and happen to not make a mess of my sheets for once, the first person I see when I walk out the door better pepper their angus, because I'm going in dry. If I am not sexually satisfied I can't even think straight, fapping is a perfect way to alleviate the tension and get back to more important matters and I have never had any performance problems or diminishing returns during sex due to masturbation. I see no problem with it and the broscience of these muppets who started this movement pisses me off (they are probably making bank too). Masturbation is natural, even chimps do it. There is no reason not to IMO, scientific or otherwise.
    Originally Posted by 350blaze View Post
    The last section of that post starting with 'I see no problem with it' was meant generally. As in, masturbation is natural and will not of itself lead to problems as a matter of course, so much for my impersonal view of NO FAP. As for NO PORN, I listed my arguments against this logic in post #118, again from a general standpoint.

    Not sure what your stance on the issue is but another thing I will say about this movement is that it is coming from a bad place psychologically. You can see it in the NO FAP threads where posters will say 'damn I relapsed, felt so ashamed afterwards'. The italicised is key here, they have an inherently unhealthy relationship with their sexuality. Shame should not be an emotion associated with your libido or your sexual practices, people like this have psychological problems of a cultural origin, not neurological ones.

    This attitude is so common in the no fap community, along with the placebo logic, that you can start to see what is really happening; various other problems are being displaced onto masturbation or porn and the real issues go on untreated. I don't like the way the NO FAP creators speak to their target audience about their sexuality, it is labelling them from the outset as damaged and helps to reinforce this psychology of an ashamed, broken individual. This is why I attempted to explain in non-scientific terms how their logic is faulty (posts #118 & #124), without resorting to psychoanalysis, which is unfortunately what this post has descended into.
    Originally Posted by 350blaze View Post
    In those posts I tried to make it clear that even daily masturbation is not unhealthy, frequency comes down to libido so if you have the urge to do it daily then you should. I talked about every few days as the upper limit given a high sex drive and how it can cloud one's judgement/leave one feeling irritated if it gets to that stage (plus the sheet changing). Ideally the irritation/distraction stage is never reached and if this requires daily masturbation then so be it. Obviously time and other constraints are factors but this is a separate point. If you see no objection to daily sex then it makes no sense to object to daily masturbation.

    Fantasy is always active, it never goes away even during the real thing. The real world visual, auditory, olfactory, gustatory and cutaneous stimulation of sex vs. porn is obviously much more powerful and overwhelming on a sensory level. It is a sensory overload which will always trump porn. This is why it makes no sense that porn would somehow stunt your reaction to real world phenomena. Again I have seen no scientific evidence of the brain rewiring theories, and it is incomprehensible on a sensory level that porn could be more stimulating than the real thing. You seem to agree with this notion, so I do not see how this would be an argument in favour of NO FAP, if anything it is the opposite.
    Originally Posted by 350blaze View Post
    Maybe there is confusion because of the term fantasy. What is meant by fantasy is the mental component. If you are having sex and simply revelling in the woman you are having sex with, that is what you are fantasising about, as it were. That is the mental component of your stimulation during sex. Hormones are coursing through your veins, clouding your ability for reflexive thought and the circumstances surrounding the sex act are probably contributing more to the unconscious content of your fantasy than you are aware during the act.

    If you experience a sudden disconnect during sex where you find yourself suddenly thinking reflexively again/thrown back to reality (e.g. mechanical issue, dog running in and jumping on the bed), it is jarring and you get a sense of wtf are we even doing, just gyrating here like a pair of idiots. This is what happens when the mental aspect, your fantasy, is interrupted during sex. It plays an essential role which means that even if you are only concentrating on the sensory stimulation your partner provides with very little if any reflexivity, this still constitutes fantasy.

    Point one ties into point two which is that fantasy covers up the cracks that emerge to disclose the gulf between you and the other. That is to say, the function of fantasy during real sex is also to achieve perfection, to use your terms. Because the sensory stimulation of sex is much greater than that of porn, this aspect (the sensory) does not come into play, there is no need for skipping and searching because every touch, every smell, every taste, every moan, every look is felt immediately and viscerally, it overwhelms the senses - there is no need to search any further. The relative amount of physical and seemingly mental synergy/unification between partners is what creates the illusion that the mental component of sex is not distinctly different and separate for each partner.

    In reality there is a gulf between you and your partner's experience of sex, despite that fact that sex is probably the closest humans can get to 'communing as one' (no hippy). All of this is enabled by your fantasy, without fantasy it is just bumping uglies. So if a person must resort to porn for arousal, it makes sense that much searching and skipping through videos has to be done to secure the right level of stimulation. Porn is very basic and it is thus harder to achieve the right amount of arousal using this limited means of stimulation. What you are defining as a different type of sensory overload is actually a compensation tactic for a lack of sensory stimulus. Again there is no scientific evidence of this sensory overload/brain rewiring theory that the NO FAP movement espouses, it is pseudoscience.
    Originally Posted by 350blaze View Post
    Even though it is said that men are primarily visual in terms of what they find attractive, I think that the additional stimuli involved in sex with a partner qualitatively change it that much more than the most perfect purely visual/auditory display that it always trumps porn. I say always because I am assuming that any real life sexual partners will both be attracted to each other. To introduce hypothetical scenarios/comparisons such as sex with a 2/10 vs. an 11/10 porn scene isn't a valid point - the assumption of sex with a real life partner is that you will find them attractive enough to become fully aroused based on all the various stimuli they can provide you with.

    It isn't a choice between a 2/10 woman IRL and a virtual 11/10 woman. If that truly is the only choice given to a man then he is simply unlucky genetically, he has other problems and going on NO FAP will never net him a woman above a 2/10 if that is all he could land when he was busy fapping. People will always be attracted to the best human specimens, that not everyone can get what they want is something else entirely. Someone overrating themselves on the dating market is not caused by porn, that is akin to arguing that rock music causes juvenile delinquency.
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    Stopped watching porn just because it makes me want to have sex with my wife.
    I still watch porn from time to time. I can't lie to the misc.
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    Originally Posted by 350blaze View Post
    Quoting own posts from other NO FAP threads. Sick of seeing unhealthy logic regarding sexuality on the misc.
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    How come when I watch porn I feel guilty and useless and tired? If I fap to imagination I don't feel that way...wtf lol
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    Originally Posted by l2ambo View Post
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    Originally Posted by esheg View Post
    How come when I watch porn I feel guilty and useless and tired? If I fap to imagination I don't feel that way...wtf lol
    Because you've talked yourself into that guilt.

    I just read this in the nofap topic:
    Originally Posted by DarDardz View Post
    . Don't hype up porn or fapping. Think of it as boring or don't think of it at all.

    2. Emotionally blackmail the **** out of yourself. Tell yourself that you're gonna feel like **** if you fail. Remember the days in your life where you felt so terrible the idea of feeling like that makes you cringe. Tell yourself if you fail you'll end up feeling that.
    And I've read stuff like this much more, and done it to myself. You're basically punishing yourself and teaching yourself punishment for an action you do. It's the same as punishing a dog for doing something, do it a few times and they will change their behavior.
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    You have to cycle it bro. Go a week or two no fap and then fap. No porn on the other hand can be done forever with no issues. Try it out and see how it goes.
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    on dat imagination fap master race time

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    Originally Posted by esheg View Post
    How come when I watch porn I feel guilty and useless and tired? If I fap to imagination I don't feel that way...wtf lol
    Probably because from a young age you've been taught that touching yourself is bad. (MKayyyy)



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    Originally Posted by nicolais View Post
    on dat imagination fap master race time

    Join me brah
    Did it for a while, worked for a while, just need new stimuli.

    I'm luckily not one that goes for crazier and weirder **** the whole time.
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    Originally Posted by Feelbro View Post
    Did it for a while, worked for a while, just need new stimuli.

    I'm luckily not one that goes for crazier and weirder **** the whole time.
    only a matter of time
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    Originally Posted by Feelbro View Post
    Did it for almost 1,5 years after quitting cold turkey. First week or two you get more horny, but after that you will flatline. People say it will pass after a few weeks, but it won't.

    What will happen for you if you do nofap/noporn

    - Your libido will go down, really down
    - You will start being able to talk to women, not being afraid anymore. You know why? because you have no interest in ****ing them
    - If you do manage to **** a girl, odds are that you won't be stimulated at all

    Started watching again a few days ago, damn libido is through the roof and I'm finding my interest in girls again.
    Unless you have a chick that you can **** whenever you want, don't do it bro's.

    Stay safe.

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    Originally Posted by Sounds Good View Post
    only a matter of time
    Nope. I watched porn for over 9 years, didn't even like the anal scenes
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    majority of miscers are homosexuals and feel the need to blame porn for them not getting hard when trying to sex up a girl. You phaggots should try men.
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