Asking this here because there's a higher chance of actually getting input from females than in the regular misc.
Does porn ruin relationships?
Can it be used beneficially in any way?
Does it create some sort of unrealistic expectation that no real female is going to be capable of meeting sexually?
Girls, do you consider it "cheating" ? Explain.
Guys, would you be upset if you found out your gf watched porn? What if it was IR porn?
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Thread: Does Porn Ruin Relationships?
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12-19-2013, 12:55 PM #1
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Does Porn Ruin Relationships?
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12-19-2013, 12:59 PM #2
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12-19-2013, 01:22 PM #5
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the draw for most men is that it's a fantasy, AKA something not provided by the relationship/sex they are currently getting.
It's not a replacement, it's a supplement.
You can fap to imagination, sure, but as men we are visual creatures, and the orgasm from having actual visuals is often more fulfilling than that of imaginary encounters.
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Not really the point of the thread.
Occasional porn watching definitely does not cause ED.
Chronically addicted masturbators maybe, but the extremes do not represent the whole.Common Sense Crew
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12-19-2013, 01:27 PM #6
Oh man, I watch loads!!!!! I was watching loads while I was single. Previously though, in relationships, I didn't like it.
But since I've been watching quite a bit, it wouldn't bother me if my other half did. I can see it's benefits as well as the problems it brings.
I should say though, that I used to find it EXTREMELY insulting. Just the girls are always very good looking with great bodies. If they were ugly as hell, I would have felt better. :/ Just telling the truth guys, just telling the truth.
I doubt it ruins relationships, so long as each other boundaries are respected. If she is offended by it and doesn't like it, then respect that.
Can it benefit the relationship. Oh hell yeah!!
Does it create some sort of unrealistic expectation that no real female is going to be capable of meeting sexually?
Yeah with the younger folk of today I imagine it can do.
Girls, do you consider it "cheating" ? Explain.
Personally, no, never did, just pissed me off walking into the bedroom while ex was fapping watching nude girls on a huge tv screen doing all sorts of tricks....... Please, there is a time and place for this sh!t, not while I'm drying my hair after my shower.
A friend of mine felt like it was cheating when her bf watched it. She would come in to work crying about it so much, really traumatised by the thought he would watch porn. She said it was as bad as cheating. I can't relate as to how, other than maybe she felt insecure about her appearance also like myself, but a whole lot more than I did perhaps. They got married and he carried on watching the porn.
Thing about porn is you don't really see the guys, you only see the women, so that's where I think the insecurity lies. In erotic movies you see a lot more of the men, and can be miring them as much as your bf is miring the women.
Edit: I should add I don't watch the really hardcore, disgusting weird stuff. Just the things that I search for specifically that turn me on.Last edited by happywithit; 12-19-2013 at 01:35 PM.
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12-19-2013, 01:29 PM #7
I stopped a long time ago having (sexual) relationships where I am not getting what I want in terms of sex/desires. Sexual compatibility and a - at least somewhat - similar sex drive are absolute key factors in finding true joy and happiness in a relationship for me.
I'd bet most men "overdo" it with their fetishes when it comes to porn. They actually cross their own boundaries, because its so detached from reality. If you had your gf/wive in bed and could do WHATEVER you want, including your most vile fantasies, you'd stop a lot sooner than where those porn search queries take you. Because you realize its not about you busting your nut, but about two people having a pleasant experience with each others bodies.
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12-19-2013, 01:32 PM #8
People who have issues with porn are hilarious to me. The insecurity involved is ridiculous to me to even begin to think of it as cheating. Do people even view the people in porn as actual human beings with values and personality traits? It's a fapping tool.
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12-19-2013, 01:52 PM #9
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12-19-2013, 01:54 PM #10
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12-19-2013, 01:59 PM #11
"Whether you are masturbating or having sex, fantasy is always involved. Even if the content of the fantasy is the sex act you are currently participating in, or nothing, a brick wall, something you saw on tv last night, it is still fantasy."
What?
Are you saying that men actively fantasy while having sex?
Why do you have to think about having sex if you're having sex??????
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12-19-2013, 02:03 PM #12
^ you must REALLY love porn to write a whole dissertation about it ... get help
@AJ7123: I can see that, but every man loves a certain aspect of any girl he had in the past. One had the best boobs, one gave the best BJ, another one talked so dirty. Its just something we don't tell you, but when you are realistic about it: its unlikely that you are always the best in everything he ever had, unless you are his first.
We do it when a female is bad at sex. Believe it or not: your job is not just to provide a warm place to put our dicks in. And most women are not very good at it, just not bad enough for just to say something.
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12-19-2013, 02:04 PM #13
Read all the quotes, they address your query.
Here are the links to the original threads:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=158827413
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=158925413
The posts deal with sexuality and fantasy generally, not just masturbation with or without porn.
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12-19-2013, 02:09 PM #14
I watch it even when in a relationship and of course don’t mind if the guy does too, don’t consider it cheating at all. We can even watch together. It would be an issue if he started to prefer it over having sex with me or it would negatively affect his performance I guess. Or if he got addicted or something extreme like that. But yes it can create unrealistic expectations both about the girl’s appearance and the actual sex - the Misc. being a great example sometimes Works both ways though. On the other hand it can definitely be educational too and make you more open minded and willing to do new things, so I’d say as long as you’re still able to appreciate the real thing with a real girl then go for it.
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12-19-2013, 02:10 PM #15
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12-19-2013, 02:28 PM #18
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Yeah, but "emotional porn" aka chick-flicks are tailored to inspiring those oxytocin-release "DAaAAAAWWWWWWwwW" moments in women that make them want to be closer to their man emotionally. That's why you see more of the man; he's also not pumping away, sweaty, and dumping a fat load on her face... he's chasing her around town, leaving sweet notes and roses, and rushing to the airport to confess his undying love before she leaves town.
I can appreciate that you have a respectful, adult outlook on it. I worry about women like your friend who actually consider it a form of cheating. A lot of women are so emotionally fragile that they genuinely believe ANYTHING that detracts attention from them is cheating. I mean, how much longer until the xbox is considered cheating?
I'd like to understand more of that mindset and where it comes from, as it currently makes ZERO sense to me. I guess if they had to hide it... then it's a bit dishonest, and I could see that. But I highly doubt any woman wants to hear "Hey honey, I just watched 10 guys take turns on some skank and creampie her until her vagina looked like a bowl of mixed up mashed potatoes, mayo, and roast beef."
You're leaving out a very large portion of the equation, my friend.
Totally agree with you on sexual compatibility in the relationship, but fantasy will always exist; no matter HOW good you have it. There is not a man alive (you and I included) that will not fantasize elsewhere, outside of his relationship. You will never convince me such a creature exists; no matter HOW happy he currently is. It's not human nature. It's impossible.
One woman simply cannot compete with a million different sizes, shapes, styles, ethnicities, fetishes, long hair, short hair, blonde, brunette, redhead, asian, white, latina, black, tall, short, skinny, chubby, etc.
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ALL ON TAP AT THE CLICK OF A MOUSE.
Women can't just shape-shift and read their man's mind to see what kinky chit he just stumbled upon and is interested in. Just like your fetishes haven't remained "OMG TO TOUCH A GIRLS BOOBIE!" from the time you were 12 to your current life today. You've developed SOME fetish along the way (no matter how timid or extreme).
Porn caters to a world of fantasy that simply cannot be provided by one (or even a handful, if you're into polygamy) woman/en.
Fantasy doesn't just magically go away when you find that someone special that you love being with. It doesn't mean you don't love them, it just means that you are a sexual being by nature, and that doesn't just turn off like a light-switch.Common Sense Crew
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12-19-2013, 02:45 PM #19
You're going to need to elaborate so we know what you're talking about here. After using the internet extensively since it's release, I don't think I know what your definition of "really hardcore" is lol.
And LOL at janky "how much longer until the xbox is considered cheating?" So true man. It's ridiculous how much women feed off of attention.
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12-19-2013, 03:05 PM #20
OK, well I like the public sex porn...... because I like sex in public places.
I like bdsm porn.......... because I'm in to a lot of aspects of bdsm.
I don't like watching creampie stuff, have watched it but doesn't turn me on. I watched that gangbang stuff a few times, but I start to feel sympathy for the girl rather than turned on, so not for me.
I do feel empathy and sympathy while watching some porn which is why I avoid what I don't like, and I suspect with us females being more emotional then it could well be the case that some girls feel sympathy/guilt/upset whilst viewing it (just a guess on some of my own emotions). But that's the thing about porn. You can be as selective over what you watch as you can be selective over the guy you 'act' it out with.
I find it has helped me be a lot more communicative of what I desire and therefore, for me personally, in my sex life, it's a good thing.I don't have problems, I have situations.
Situations, you can get out of!
We all know the grass is green. We just don’t consider what’s been left in the middle of it.
There will always be imperfections. There will always be a big splodge of brown chit creating disarray in that beautiful emerald sea of grass.
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12-19-2013, 03:08 PM #21
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12-19-2013, 03:16 PM #22
No. The thing with porn, is you just see the same positions hear the same noises, it kinda gets samie, which is why I don't watch it daily, and I vary what I view and vary the intensity of that type too.
Oh and I read erotica, which means my fantasies are created by another's written word but created visually in my mind, which serves well sometimes a lot better for me.I don't have problems, I have situations.
Situations, you can get out of!
We all know the grass is green. We just don’t consider what’s been left in the middle of it.
There will always be imperfections. There will always be a big splodge of brown chit creating disarray in that beautiful emerald sea of grass.
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12-19-2013, 03:17 PM #23
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12-19-2013, 03:19 PM #24
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12-19-2013, 03:23 PM #25
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12-19-2013, 03:26 PM #26
Find that to be a HUGE problem with chicks. They NEVER seem to be able to communicate what they like. It's annoying as hell if you ask a chick what they like and it's "I don't care." I'd rather hear, "I like to get phucked in the ass and pussy at the same time." then "I don't care." "I don't care." basically means to me that you're passive in the act of sex to the point where it brings you no actual pleasure and that you're doing it just to do it.
As for gangbang shiit, most of those chicks doing those scenes aren't doing it because they dislike it but want the cash. They like all the male attention sexually at the same time. I don't think you take 5+ dicks for over an hour unless you LIKE it.
Guilt/Upset, couldn't see those emotions from watching porn. Women minds man, confusing.
As for BDSM, I think a lot of chicks like this more than they are willing to admit. Just afraid of the slut connotation that goes along with it.
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12-19-2013, 03:32 PM #27
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12-19-2013, 03:33 PM #28
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12-19-2013, 03:35 PM #29
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12-19-2013, 03:36 PM #30I don't have problems, I have situations.
Situations, you can get out of!
We all know the grass is green. We just don’t consider what’s been left in the middle of it.
There will always be imperfections. There will always be a big splodge of brown chit creating disarray in that beautiful emerald sea of grass.
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