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    Does Porn Ruin Relationships?

    Asking this here because there's a higher chance of actually getting input from females than in the regular misc.

    Does porn ruin relationships?
    Can it be used beneficially in any way?
    Does it create some sort of unrealistic expectation that no real female is going to be capable of meeting sexually?

    Girls, do you consider it "cheating" ? Explain.
    Guys, would you be upset if you found out your gf watched porn? What if it was IR porn?
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    I don't get people who need porn while in a relationship. Even if I wasn't getting sex whenever I wanted, I'd fap to some fantasy of where I would bang any of the girls I have banged so far.

    The effect porn has both on your psyche as well as biochemical balance in your brain is disturbing.
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    Originally Posted by ThatKindaGuy View Post
    I don't get people who need porn while in a relationship. Even if I wasn't getting sex whenever I wanted, I'd fap to some fantasy of where I would bang any of the girls I have banged so far.

    The effect porn has both on your psyche as well as biochemical balance in your brain is disturbing.
    I take it you're aware of "your brain on porn" fascinating stuff. And yes, very disturbing especially as erectile dysfunction is only the beginning of the issues.
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    Originally Posted by ThatKindaGuy View Post
    I don't get people who need porn while in a relationship. Even if I wasn't getting sex whenever I wanted, I'd fap to some fantasy of where I would bang any of the girls I have banged so far.

    The effect porn has both on your psyche as well as biochemical balance in your brain is disturbing.
    the draw for most men is that it's a fantasy, AKA something not provided by the relationship/sex they are currently getting.
    It's not a replacement, it's a supplement.
    You can fap to imagination, sure, but as men we are visual creatures, and the orgasm from having actual visuals is often more fulfilling than that of imaginary encounters.



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    I take it you're aware of "your brain on porn" fascinating stuff. And yes, very disturbing especially as erectile dysfunction is only the beginning of the issues.
    Not really the point of the thread.

    Occasional porn watching definitely does not cause ED.
    Chronically addicted masturbators maybe, but the extremes do not represent the whole.
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    Oh man, I watch loads!!!!! I was watching loads while I was single. Previously though, in relationships, I didn't like it.

    But since I've been watching quite a bit, it wouldn't bother me if my other half did. I can see it's benefits as well as the problems it brings.

    I should say though, that I used to find it EXTREMELY insulting. Just the girls are always very good looking with great bodies. If they were ugly as hell, I would have felt better. :/ Just telling the truth guys, just telling the truth.

    I doubt it ruins relationships, so long as each other boundaries are respected. If she is offended by it and doesn't like it, then respect that.

    Can it benefit the relationship. Oh hell yeah!!

    Does it create some sort of unrealistic expectation that no real female is going to be capable of meeting sexually?

    Yeah with the younger folk of today I imagine it can do.

    Girls, do you consider it "cheating" ? Explain.

    Personally, no, never did, just pissed me off walking into the bedroom while ex was fapping watching nude girls on a huge tv screen doing all sorts of tricks....... Please, there is a time and place for this sh!t, not while I'm drying my hair after my shower.

    A friend of mine felt like it was cheating when her bf watched it. She would come in to work crying about it so much, really traumatised by the thought he would watch porn. She said it was as bad as cheating. I can't relate as to how, other than maybe she felt insecure about her appearance also like myself, but a whole lot more than I did perhaps. They got married and he carried on watching the porn.

    Thing about porn is you don't really see the guys, you only see the women, so that's where I think the insecurity lies. In erotic movies you see a lot more of the men, and can be miring them as much as your bf is miring the women.

    Edit: I should add I don't watch the really hardcore, disgusting weird stuff. Just the things that I search for specifically that turn me on.
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    Originally Posted by janky View Post
    the draw for most men is that it's a fantasy, AKA something not provided by the relationship/sex they are currently getting.
    It's not a replacement, it's a supplement.
    You can fap to imagination, sure, but as men we are visual creatures, and the orgasm from having actual visuals is often more fulfilling than that of imaginary encounters.
    I stopped a long time ago having (sexual) relationships where I am not getting what I want in terms of sex/desires. Sexual compatibility and a - at least somewhat - similar sex drive are absolute key factors in finding true joy and happiness in a relationship for me.

    I'd bet most men "overdo" it with their fetishes when it comes to porn. They actually cross their own boundaries, because its so detached from reality. If you had your gf/wive in bed and could do WHATEVER you want, including your most vile fantasies, you'd stop a lot sooner than where those porn search queries take you. Because you realize its not about you busting your nut, but about two people having a pleasant experience with each others bodies.
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    People who have issues with porn are hilarious to me. The insecurity involved is ridiculous to me to even begin to think of it as cheating. Do people even view the people in porn as actual human beings with values and personality traits? It's a fapping tool.
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    Originally Posted by ThatKindaGuy View Post
    I don't get people who need porn while in a relationship. Even if I wasn't getting sex whenever I wanted, I'd fap to some fantasy of where I would bang any of the girls I have banged so far.

    The effect porn has both on your psyche as well as biochemical balance in your brain is disturbing.
    That would bother me a lot more than a guy getting off to some actress in a porn video.

    Would much rather have a bf fantasize about an actress who he will never meet than an ex gf he had a connection with.

    That would actually bother me quite a bit.
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    Quoting posts from NO FAP threads that apply here. Sick of seeing unhealthy logic regarding sexuality on the misc.

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    NO FAP, along with NO PORN make no sense whatsoever. There is the marginal test spike on the 7th day of no fap that has been proven, but if you can hold out for 7 days I got some bad news about your base test levels. That test spike would be the only perceivable benefit, but it makes no difference for gains, social confidence or anything else. Here are some more suggestions as to why both these phenomena are stupid:

    First, NO FAP:
    So let's say no fap is a placebo and helps drive you to get out more and interact with women. What happens when you have sex? All no fap test gains are gone. Then there are other colloquial theories that state that when you have a gf/fb/etc. you attract more women, even if they don't know you are taken. If true, this would in part be due to your lack of desperation/levels of sexual satisfaction, so if you don't have a gf it would make sense to fap every so often in order to not feel horny around women 24/7. Either this or you are radiating a cocktail of pheromones from both you and your gf and this is what is attracting other women. Regardless, there is no acknowledged scientific explanation of this gf = more women theory, or if it even holds in all scenarios. Moral of the story is it's better to be sexually satisfied than not, so fap away.

    Next, NO PORN:
    Whether you are masturbating or having sex, fantasy is always involved. Even if the content of the fantasy is the sex act you are currently participating in, or nothing, a brick wall, something you saw on tv last night, it is still fantasy. Sexual activity always has a mental component and fantasy is always more complicated, vivid and chaotic than any porn, I don't care what kind of fetish porn you are watching. All this talk of rewiring your brain and causing short attention span or lack of desire for something real and tangible as opposed to the madness of porn makes no sense. Your brain left to its own devices when engaged in masturbation or sex will jump around and lead you places no porn ever could.

    If the argument then runs that porn stunts your imagination it still makes no sense. If an individual is so focussed on porn and porn based scenarios/fantasies and that is all they think about during sex it makes no difference to your sexual partner. Sexual fantasy is always impregnable for the other, two parties participate in the act but the fantasy always runs parallel and without intersection. Lacan called it the impossibility of the sexual relation. It basically means that because of the mental component in sexuality, sex is simply masturbation with a partner.

    If the argument then turns to porn leads to unrealistic ideas about sex which can't be replicated in the real world, it is simple. If you want to have porn style sex and your partner does not, get a new partner, this is a standard case of sexual incompatibility. In summation, keep fapping, keep those tabs open and make sure you click on all the hnnngg threads.
    Originally Posted by 350blaze View Post
    Exactly, so why is introducing a hand to assist with ejaculation bad? Fantasy is also involved in wet dreams. The only valid argument I didn't deal with in post #118 is the so called death grip argument which also makes little sense. If you cannot adjust between masturbation and sex you are masturbating incorrectly. If you claim to feel less sensitive during sex after masturbating too much you have damaged your dink using an incorrect technique. Masturbation does not necessarily lead to death grip, nerve ending damaging 18 hour sessions of debauchery. That people develop sensitivity problems from masturbation does not mean that masturbation in and of itself is somehow bad for you, thus NO FAP is still a stupid idea. Plus who wants to change their sheets every 2-3 days?
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    I'm more interested in debunking this NO FAP movement as a general idea to be followed than sharing any diary entries, hence my formal tone. All I'll say is that if I am not getting regular sex I masturbate every second day at the latest. If I don't scratch the itch before the third day and happen to not make a mess of my sheets for once, the first person I see when I walk out the door better pepper their angus, because I'm going in dry. If I am not sexually satisfied I can't even think straight, fapping is a perfect way to alleviate the tension and get back to more important matters and I have never had any performance problems or diminishing returns during sex due to masturbation. I see no problem with it and the broscience of these muppets who started this movement pisses me off (they are probably making bank too). Masturbation is natural, even chimps do it. There is no reason not to IMO, scientific or otherwise.
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    The last section of that post starting with 'I see no problem with it' was meant generally. As in, masturbation is natural and will not of itself lead to problems as a matter of course, so much for my impersonal view of NO FAP. As for NO PORN, I listed my arguments against this logic in post #118, again from a general standpoint.

    Not sure what your stance on the issue is but another thing I will say about this movement is that it is coming from a bad place psychologically. You can see it in the NO FAP threads where posters will say 'damn I relapsed, felt so ashamed afterwards'. The italicised is key here, they have an inherently unhealthy relationship with their sexuality. Shame should not be an emotion associated with your libido or your sexual practices, people like this have psychological problems of a cultural origin, not neurological ones.

    This attitude is so common in the no fap community, along with the placebo logic, that you can start to see what is really happening; various other problems are being displaced onto masturbation or porn and the real issues go on untreated. I don't like the way the NO FAP creators speak to their target audience about their sexuality, it is labelling them from the outset as damaged and helps to reinforce this psychology of an ashamed, broken individual. This is why I attempted to explain in non-scientific terms how their logic is faulty (posts #118 & #124), without resorting to psychoanalysis, which is unfortunately what this post has descended into.
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    In those posts I tried to make it clear that even daily masturbation is not unhealthy, frequency comes down to libido so if you have the urge to do it daily then you should. I talked about every few days as the upper limit given a high sex drive and how it can cloud one's judgement/leave one feeling irritated if it gets to that stage (plus the sheet changing). Ideally the irritation/distraction stage is never reached and if this requires daily masturbation then so be it. Obviously time and other constraints are factors but this is a separate point. If you see no objection to daily sex then it makes no sense to object to daily masturbation.

    Fantasy is always active, it never goes away even during the real thing. The real world visual, auditory, olfactory, gustatory and cutaneous stimulation of sex vs. porn is obviously much more powerful and overwhelming on a sensory level. It is a sensory overload which will always trump porn. This is why it makes no sense that porn would somehow stunt your reaction to real world phenomena. Again I have seen no scientific evidence of the brain rewiring theories, and it is incomprehensible on a sensory level that porn could be more stimulating than the real thing. You seem to agree with this notion, so I do not see how this would be an argument in favour of NO FAP, if anything it is the opposite.
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    Maybe there is confusion because of the term fantasy. What is meant by fantasy is the mental component. If you are having sex and simply revelling in the woman you are having sex with, that is what you are fantasising about, as it were. That is the mental component of your stimulation during sex. Hormones are coursing through your veins, clouding your ability for reflexive thought and the circumstances surrounding the sex act are probably contributing more to the unconscious content of your fantasy than you are aware during the act.

    If you experience a sudden disconnect during sex where you find yourself suddenly thinking reflexively again/thrown back to reality (e.g. mechanical issue, dog running in and jumping on the bed), it is jarring and you get a sense of wtf are we even doing, just gyrating here like a pair of idiots. This is what happens when the mental aspect, your fantasy, is interrupted during sex. It plays an essential role which means that even if you are only concentrating on the sensory stimulation your partner provides with very little if any reflexivity, this still constitutes fantasy.

    Point one ties into point two which is that fantasy covers up the cracks that emerge to disclose the gulf between you and the other. That is to say, the function of fantasy during real sex is also to achieve perfection, to use your terms. Because the sensory stimulation of sex is much greater than that of porn, this aspect (the sensory) does not come into play, there is no need for skipping and searching because every touch, every smell, every taste, every moan, every look is felt immediately and viscerally, it overwhelms the senses - there is no need to search any further. The relative amount of physical and seemingly mental synergy/unification between partners is what creates the illusion that the mental component of sex is not distinctly different and separate for each partner.

    In reality there is a gulf between you and your partner's experience of sex, despite that fact that sex is probably the closest humans can get to 'communing as one' (no hippy). All of this is enabled by your fantasy, without fantasy it is just bumping uglies. So if a person must resort to porn for arousal, it makes sense that much searching and skipping through videos has to be done to secure the right level of stimulation. Porn is very basic and it is thus harder to achieve the right amount of arousal using this limited means of stimulation. What you are defining as a different type of sensory overload is actually a compensation tactic for a lack of sensory stimulus. Again there is no scientific evidence of this sensory overload/brain rewiring theory that the NO FAP movement espouses, it is pseudoscience.
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    Even though it is said that men are primarily visual in terms of what they find attractive, I think that the additional stimuli involved in sex with a partner qualitatively change it that much more than the most perfect purely visual/auditory display that it always trumps porn. I say always because I am assuming that any real life sexual partners will both be attracted to each other. To introduce hypothetical scenarios/comparisons such as sex with a 2/10 vs. an 11/10 porn scene isn't a valid point - the assumption of sex with a real life partner is that you will find them attractive enough to become fully aroused based on all the various stimuli they can provide you with.

    It isn't a choice between a 2/10 woman IRL and a virtual 11/10 woman. If that truly is the only choice given to a man then he is simply unlucky genetically, he has other problems and going on NO FAP will never net him a woman above a 2/10 if that is all he could land when he was busy fapping. People will always be attracted to the best human specimens, that not everyone can get what they want is something else entirely. Someone overrating themselves on the dating market is not caused by porn, that is akin to arguing that rock music causes juvenile delinquency.
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    "Whether you are masturbating or having sex, fantasy is always involved. Even if the content of the fantasy is the sex act you are currently participating in, or nothing, a brick wall, something you saw on tv last night, it is still fantasy."



    What?

    Are you saying that men actively fantasy while having sex?

    Why do you have to think about having sex if you're having sex??????
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    ^ you must REALLY love porn to write a whole dissertation about it ... get help

    @AJ7123: I can see that, but every man loves a certain aspect of any girl he had in the past. One had the best boobs, one gave the best BJ, another one talked so dirty. Its just something we don't tell you, but when you are realistic about it: its unlikely that you are always the best in everything he ever had, unless you are his first.

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    What?

    Are you saying that men actively fantasy while having sex?

    Why do you have to think about having sex if you're having sex??????
    We do it when a female is bad at sex. Believe it or not: your job is not just to provide a warm place to put our dicks in. And most women are not very good at it, just not bad enough for just to say something.
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    Originally Posted by AJ7123 View Post
    "Whether you are masturbating or having sex, fantasy is always involved. Even if the content of the fantasy is the sex act you are currently participating in, or nothing, a brick wall, something you saw on tv last night, it is still fantasy."



    What?

    Are you saying that men actively fantasy while having sex?

    Why do you have to think about having sex if you're having sex??????
    Read all the quotes, they address your query.

    Here are the links to the original threads:

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=158827413

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=158925413

    Originally Posted by ThatKindaGuy View Post
    ^ you must REALLY love porn to write a whole dissertation about it ... get help
    The posts deal with sexuality and fantasy generally, not just masturbation with or without porn.
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    I watch it even when in a relationship and of course don’t mind if the guy does too, don’t consider it cheating at all. We can even watch together. It would be an issue if he started to prefer it over having sex with me or it would negatively affect his performance I guess. Or if he got addicted or something extreme like that. But yes it can create unrealistic expectations both about the girl’s appearance and the actual sex - the Misc. being a great example sometimes Works both ways though. On the other hand it can definitely be educational too and make you more open minded and willing to do new things, so I’d say as long as you’re still able to appreciate the real thing with a real girl then go for it.
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    lol. sup brah
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    Originally Posted by ThatKindaGuy View Post
    ^ you must REALLY love porn to write a whole dissertation about it ... get help

    @AJ7123: I can see that, but every man loves a certain aspect of any girl he had in the past. One had the best boobs, one gave the best BJ, another one talked so dirty. Its just something we don't tell you, but when you are realistic about it: its unlikely that you are always the best in everything he ever had, unless you are his first.



    We do it when a female is bad at sex. Believe it or not: your job is not just to provide a warm place to put our dicks in. And most women are not very good at it, just not bad enough for just to say something.
    I get that. I've thought about exs too. But if I'm thinking about an ex I'm thinking more of how whatever he was doing felt. Not the actual guy. Is that the same for guys?

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    Originally Posted by happywithit View Post
    Oh man, I watch loads!!!!! I was watching loads while I was single. Previously though, in relationships, I didn't like it.

    But since I've been watching quite a bit, it wouldn't bother me if my other half did. I can see it's benefits as well as the problems it brings.

    I should say though, that I used to find it EXTREMELY insulting. Just the girls are always very good looking with great bodies. If they were ugly as hell, I would have felt better. :/ Just telling the truth guys, just telling the truth.

    I doubt it ruins relationships, so long as each other boundaries are respected. If she is offended by it and doesn't like it, then respect that.

    Can it benefit the relationship. Oh hell yeah!!

    Does it create some sort of unrealistic expectation that no real female is going to be capable of meeting sexually?

    Yeah with the younger folk of today I imagine it can do.

    Girls, do you consider it "cheating" ? Explain.

    Personally, no, never did, just pissed me off walking into the bedroom while ex was fapping watching nude girls on a huge tv screen doing all sorts of tricks....... Please, there is a time and place for this sh!t, not while I'm drying my hair after my shower.

    A friend of mine felt like it was cheating when her bf watched it. She would come in to work crying about it so much, really traumatised by the thought he would watch porn. She said it was as bad as cheating. I can't relate as to how, other than maybe she felt insecure about her appearance also like myself, but a whole lot more than I did perhaps. They got married and he carried on watching the porn.

    Thing about porn is you don't really see the guys, you only see the women, so that's where I think the insecurity lies. In erotic movies you see a lot more of the men, and can be miring them as much as your bf is miring the women.

    Edit: I should add I don't watch the really hardcore, disgusting weird stuff. Just the things that I search for specifically that turn me on.
    Yeah, but "emotional porn" aka chick-flicks are tailored to inspiring those oxytocin-release "DAaAAAAWWWWWWwwW" moments in women that make them want to be closer to their man emotionally. That's why you see more of the man; he's also not pumping away, sweaty, and dumping a fat load on her face... he's chasing her around town, leaving sweet notes and roses, and rushing to the airport to confess his undying love before she leaves town.

    I can appreciate that you have a respectful, adult outlook on it. I worry about women like your friend who actually consider it a form of cheating. A lot of women are so emotionally fragile that they genuinely believe ANYTHING that detracts attention from them is cheating. I mean, how much longer until the xbox is considered cheating?

    I'd like to understand more of that mindset and where it comes from, as it currently makes ZERO sense to me. I guess if they had to hide it... then it's a bit dishonest, and I could see that. But I highly doubt any woman wants to hear "Hey honey, I just watched 10 guys take turns on some skank and creampie her until her vagina looked like a bowl of mixed up mashed potatoes, mayo, and roast beef."



    Originally Posted by ThatKindaGuy View Post
    I stopped a long time ago having (sexual) relationships where I am not getting what I want in terms of sex/desires. Sexual compatibility and a - at least somewhat - similar sex drive are absolute key factors in finding true joy and happiness in a relationship for me.

    I'd bet most men "overdo" it with their fetishes when it comes to porn. They actually cross their own boundaries, because its so detached from reality. If you had your gf/wive in bed and could do WHATEVER you want, including your most vile fantasies, you'd stop a lot sooner than where those porn search queries take you. Because you realize its not about you busting your nut, but about two people having a pleasant experience with each others bodies.
    You're leaving out a very large portion of the equation, my friend.
    Totally agree with you on sexual compatibility in the relationship, but fantasy will always exist; no matter HOW good you have it. There is not a man alive (you and I included) that will not fantasize elsewhere, outside of his relationship. You will never convince me such a creature exists; no matter HOW happy he currently is. It's not human nature. It's impossible.

    One woman simply cannot compete with a million different sizes, shapes, styles, ethnicities, fetishes, long hair, short hair, blonde, brunette, redhead, asian, white, latina, black, tall, short, skinny, chubby, etc.
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    Women can't just shape-shift and read their man's mind to see what kinky chit he just stumbled upon and is interested in. Just like your fetishes haven't remained "OMG TO TOUCH A GIRLS BOOBIE!" from the time you were 12 to your current life today. You've developed SOME fetish along the way (no matter how timid or extreme).

    Porn caters to a world of fantasy that simply cannot be provided by one (or even a handful, if you're into polygamy) woman/en.

    Fantasy doesn't just magically go away when you find that someone special that you love being with. It doesn't mean you don't love them, it just means that you are a sexual being by nature, and that doesn't just turn off like a light-switch.
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    Edit: I should add I don't watch the really hardcore, disgusting weird stuff. Just the things that I search for specifically that turn me on.
    You're going to need to elaborate so we know what you're talking about here. After using the internet extensively since it's release, I don't think I know what your definition of "really hardcore" is lol.

    And LOL at janky "how much longer until the xbox is considered cheating?" So true man. It's ridiculous how much women feed off of attention.
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    You're going to need to elaborate so we know what you're talking about here. After using the internet extensively since it's release, I don't think I know what your definition of "really hardcore" is lol.

    And LOL at janky "how much longer until the xbox is considered cheating?" So true man. It's ridiculous how much women feed off of attention.
    OK, well I like the public sex porn...... because I like sex in public places.

    I like bdsm porn.......... because I'm in to a lot of aspects of bdsm.
    I don't like watching creampie stuff, have watched it but doesn't turn me on. I watched that gangbang stuff a few times, but I start to feel sympathy for the girl rather than turned on, so not for me.


    I do feel empathy and sympathy while watching some porn which is why I avoid what I don't like, and I suspect with us females being more emotional then it could well be the case that some girls feel sympathy/guilt/upset whilst viewing it (just a guess on some of my own emotions). But that's the thing about porn. You can be as selective over what you watch as you can be selective over the guy you 'act' it out with.

    I find it has helped me be a lot more communicative of what I desire and therefore, for me personally, in my sex life, it's a good thing.
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    Originally Posted by happywithit View Post
    OK, well I like the public sex porn...... because I like sex in public places.

    I like bdsm porn.......... because I'm in to a lot of aspects of bdsm.
    I don't like watching creampie stuff, have watched it but doesn't turn me on. I watched that gangbang stuff a few times, but I start to feel sympathy for the girl rather than turned on, so not for me

    I find it has helped me be a lot more communicative of what I desire and therefore, for me personally, in my sex life, it's a good thing.
    Have you found that you ONLY like/want BDSM porn?
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    Originally Posted by DizzySmalls View Post
    Have you found that you ONLY like/want BDSM porn?
    No. The thing with porn, is you just see the same positions hear the same noises, it kinda gets samie, which is why I don't watch it daily, and I vary what I view and vary the intensity of that type too.

    Oh and I read erotica, which means my fantasies are created by another's written word but created visually in my mind, which serves well sometimes a lot better for me.
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    Originally Posted by happywithit View Post
    No. The thing with porn, is you just see the same positions hear the same noises, it kinda gets samie, which is why I don't watch it daily, and I vary what I view and vary the intensity of that type too.

    Oh and I read erotica, which means my fantasies are created by another's written word but created visually in my mind, which serves well sometimes a lot better for me.
    Well that's where I was going with it. To me, the BDSM/power aspects of things are a lot more arousing. I prefer literotica to porn these days, as the porn is lower quality on what counts.
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    OK, well I like the public sex porn...... because I like sex in public places.

    I like bdsm porn.......... because I'm in to a lot of aspects of bdsm.
    I don't like watching creampie stuff, have watched it but doesn't turn me on. I watched that gangbang stuff a few times, but I start to feel sympathy for the girl rather than turned on, so not for me.


    I do feel empathy and sympathy while watching some porn which is why I avoid what I don't like, and I suspect with us females being more emotional then it could well be the case that some girls feel sympathy/guilt/upset whilst viewing it (just a guess on some of my own emotions). But that's the thing about porn. You can be as selective over what you watch as you can be selective over the guy you 'act' it out with.

    I find it has helped me be a lot more communicative of what I desire and therefore, for me personally, in my sex life, it's a good thing.
    this. Why I rarely watch b/c so much faking on the girls part. I think we could tell a lot easier if the girl is faking or not into it. Then it's just like watching a bad movie.

    I agree with what you said in another post about erotica. That does a lot more for me than porn too.
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    Originally Posted by happywithit View Post
    OK, well I like the public sex porn...... because I like sex in public places.

    I like bdsm porn.......... because I'm in to a lot of aspects of bdsm.
    I don't like watching creampie stuff, have watched it but doesn't turn me on. I watched that gangbang stuff a few times, but I start to feel sympathy for the girl rather than turned on, so not for me.


    I do feel empathy and sympathy while watching some porn which is why I avoid what I don't like, and I suspect with us females being more emotional then it could well be the case that some girls feel sympathy/guilt/upset whilst viewing it (just a guess on some of my own emotions). But that's the thing about porn. You can be as selective over what you watch as you can be selective over the guy you 'act' it out with.

    I find it has helped me be a lot more communicative of what I desire and therefore, for me personally, in my sex life, it's a good thing.
    Find that to be a HUGE problem with chicks. They NEVER seem to be able to communicate what they like. It's annoying as hell if you ask a chick what they like and it's "I don't care." I'd rather hear, "I like to get phucked in the ass and pussy at the same time." then "I don't care." "I don't care." basically means to me that you're passive in the act of sex to the point where it brings you no actual pleasure and that you're doing it just to do it.

    As for gangbang shiit, most of those chicks doing those scenes aren't doing it because they dislike it but want the cash. They like all the male attention sexually at the same time. I don't think you take 5+ dicks for over an hour unless you LIKE it.

    Guilt/Upset, couldn't see those emotions from watching porn. Women minds man, confusing.
    As for BDSM, I think a lot of chicks like this more than they are willing to admit. Just afraid of the slut connotation that goes along with it.
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    Originally Posted by DizzySmalls View Post
    Well that's where I was going with it. To me, the BDSM/power aspects of things are a lot more arousing. I prefer literotica to porn these days, as the porn is lower quality on what counts.
    I quite agree. And also agree with the power element being arousing.

    The public sex porn I enjoy because I like taking risks in most parts of my life I don't fear the outcomes really. So this is a turn on for myself also.
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    We all know the grass is green. We just don’t consider what’s been left in the middle of it.

    There will always be imperfections. There will always be a big splodge of brown chit creating disarray in that beautiful emerald sea of grass.
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