Is it possible?

[A7U9G]

Last meet I weighed in at 164.2. I want to stay in the 165 class. I want to go up in my lifts but don't you need a surplus, right? So what I'm asking is can i go up in lifts and lose weight at the same time? If so how would I go about doing so?

[scottyk31]

Possible yes, optimal more than likely not.

[A7U9G]

Possible yes, optimal more than likely not.

I'm not looking for huge gains, just small gains but without going out of my weight class

[TrettinR]

Why do you need to lose weight? You're already under your weight class. You should probably gain 5+lbs

[A7U9G]

Why do you need to lose weight? You're already under your weight class. You should probably gain 5+lbs

I'm .9lbs to being out of my weight class. I am looking to gain muscle an lose some fat at the same time. I'm just not sure on how to do it.

[scottyk31]

How far out from a meet are you. It would be better to gain 10-15 pounds then slowly drop back down. However I would not worry so much about weight classes at this stage. Gain muscle and then when you feel you put on too much fat, just slowly lose back down. Why are you limiting yourself to 165 if I may ask

[A7U9G]

How far out from a meet are you. It would be better to gain 10-15 pounds then slowly drop back down. However I would not worry so much about weight classes at this stage. Gain muscle and then when you feel you put on too much fat, just slowly lose back down. Why are you limiting yourself to 165 if I may ask

I have never good at a HS sport. I want to do good in HS (junior yr) and my best chance is in the 165 class. My next meet is next month. Idk why all the meets are close but they are. I would just cut but I don't want to lose any strength.

[scottyk31]

1 month really isn't enough for significant improvement. I can say this, in 1 month you can really only hope to improve a few pounds on each lift. But after this if you have time before your next meet gain some mass. You can always lose back. Good luck at this point stay the course since a meet is close

[TrettinR]

I'm .9lbs to being out of my weight class. I am looking to gain muscle an lose some fat at the same time. I'm just not sure on how to do it.

You're actually over a pound away, the weight class is 75kg, not 165lbs. 75kg = 165.347lbs. But that's not really all that important. You can easily cut a few lbs in only water without losing any performance or it being dangerous in any way.

You're not really fully in your weight class until you're over the class by a good 5+lbs. Most people walk around heavier than their weight class. I'm usually around 236-239 and weigh in at 231 for meets.

[A7U9G]

1 month really isn't enough for significant improvement. I can say this, in 1 month you can really only hope to improve a few pounds on each lift. But after this if you have time before your next meet gain some mass. You can always lose back. Good luck at this point stay the course since a meet is close

I know one month isn't that long... I'm not a big fan of all the meets being close

[A7U9G]

You're actually over a pound away, the weight class is 75kg, not 165lbs. 75kg = 165.347lbs. But that's not really all that important. You can easily cut a few lbs in only water without losing any performance or it being dangerous in any way.

You're not really fully in your weight class until you're over the class by a good 5+lbs. Most people walk around heavier than their weight class. I'm usually around 236-239 and weigh in at 231 for meets.

Oh didnt know that first part, my coach just told me 165 haha and the second part I'm not sure where you are comin from? I usually weigh in at 170ish not at meets so I guess I'm about 5 over. Is that what you mean?

[TrettinR]

Oh didnt know that first part, my coach just told me 165 haha and the second part I'm not sure where you are comin from? I usually weigh in at 170ish not at meets so I guess I'm about 5 over. Is that what you mean?

So if you can easily manipulate ~5lbs before meets why are you concerned about weighing over 165lbs? I'm really confused.

Either way, stick with the advice from Scotty, there's not much you can do this close to a meet. After competitions are over I'd recommend not worrying about weight until your senior year and then decide on a new weight class then if you're heavier.

[A7U9G]

So if you can easily manipulate ~5lbs before meets why are you concerned about weighing over 165lbs? I'm really confused.

Either way, stick with the advice from Scotty, there's not much you can do this close to a meet. After competitions are over I'd recommend not worrying about weight until your senior year and then decide on a new weight class then if you're heavier.

Well if I gain anymore weight then I will have troubles manipulating for weigh in
Thanks for the advice. repped!

[johndoejd54]

You can go up to 170 with absolutely no problem cutting, you can piss that out in like a day or two, you could go up to 175 fine, after that it gets a little risky

but as long as your meet has a 24 hour weigh in just bulk and do not go over 175

[supermaz]

Totally possible. Even if you gain 5lbs just cut water right before weigh in. No prob

[A7U9G]

Totally possible. Even if you gain 5lbs just cut water right before weigh in. No prob

How do I make myself lose water weight

[ElAlchemisto]

How do I make myself lose water weight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MupV1RVT464

[SPFjudge]

at 5'7'' you need to be at LEAST a 242.

[BigJon55]

at 5'7'' you need to be at LEAST a 242.

I'd say AT LEAST a 198, but 242 would be optimal.

OP, after you get good at cutting water you'll have more leeway with your weight. For my last meet I started cutting water at 330 and weighed in at 303. Then the day of the meet I was right back at 330. It's not as hard as it seems, you just have to find what works for you without effecting your strength levels. I would recommend moving up a weight class or 2; however. 165 is pretty small regardless of your height.

[Shanson07]

All good stuff that these guys added. and they have way more experience than i do. BUT, with a 225/220/340 current total and 16 years old, you have a ton more room to gain strength at your current weight without doing anything but getting better at the lifts. My recommendation (from personal experience) is to stop worrying about the weight. eat whenever possible of good protein carbs and fat and practice the d@mn competition lifts. You have a long time to worry about weight fluctuations in the future. Just get some time under a barbell.

[A7U9G]

Repped all for input

[davisj3537]

Biggest mistake I ever made was trying to keep my weight down. It is stupid unless you are trying to break open records in large feds.

[A7U9G]

Biggest mistake I ever made was trying to keep my weight down. It is stupid unless you are trying to break open records in large feds.

I guess I don't quite understand why to be heavy. I dont mind gaining some weight after highschool it is just next year I want to qualify for state. The more weight I gain now the more I need to get for a total. I still need to gain a lot in my lifts to get close to qualifing as it is. Also want to be somewhat lean.

[naich]

I guess I don't quite understand why to be heavy. I dont mind gaining some weight after highschool it is just next year I want to qualify for state. The more weight I gain now the more I need to get for a total. I still need to gain a lot in my lifts to get close to qualifing as it is. Also want to be somewhat lean.

its all about your personal goals. some people will tell you to be 242 at 5'7, which will make you strong as fuk, but you'll also look like a meatball. At age 16 looking like a meatball might not be a good idea socially...know what i mean? but if you are dedicated and want only to be strong weight gain is inevitable, it basically comes down to how bad you want to be strong vs how bad you want to stay lean.

INB4 stfu you should be 308 at 6'0.

[A7U9G]

its all about your personal goals. some people will tell you to be 242 at 5'7, which will make you strong as fuk, but you'll also look like a meatball. At age 16 looking like a meatball might not be a good idea socially...know what i mean? but if you are dedicated and want only to be strong weight gain is inevitable, it basically comes down to how bad you want to be strong vs how bad you want to stay lean.

INB4 stfu you should be 308 at 6'0.

I would like a to be in the middle for now somewhat for social reasons. This sums up how I myself feel about it so repped!

[davisj3537]

It comes down to your priorities. If you want to lift more weight, the fastest way to do it is gain weight. The more weight you lift the more fun you will have. The last thing you should be thinking about it how good you want to do. The more expectations you set, the more opportunities you have to turn an incredible experience into a bad one. Go lift and have fun.

If being competitive at your height is something you want, you'll need to gain weight. When you stop seeing weight classes and start seeing height differences you'll actually be on the road to being truly competitive. This is something that takes years to achieve.

If powerlifting is a third string goal for you then by all means continue on the road you are on. I'm just speaking from my own experience. Powerlifting is a main goal of mine and my original comment was explaining how I wish I had just gained weight instead of chasing small weight classes.

[A7U9G]

It comes down to your priorities. If you want to lift more weight, the fastest way to do it is gain weight. The more weight you lift the more fun you will have. The last thing you should be thinking about it how good you want to do. The more expectations you set, the more opportunities you have to turn an incredible experience into a bad one. Go lift and have fun.

If being competitive at your height is something you want, you'll need to gain weight. When you stop seeing weight classes and start seeing height differences you'll actually be on the road to being truly competitive. This is something that takes years to achieve.

If powerlifting is a third string goal for you then by all means continue on the road you are on. I'm just speaking from my own experience. Powerlifting is a main goal of mine and my original comment was explaining how I wish I had just gained weight instead of chasing small weight classes.

I see where you are coming from. I want to do good my senior year of highschool so I though it would be easier to achieve at a lower weight class because my total would be less. Right now I need to increase about 100 in squat and deadlift and 50 in bench to qualify for state next yr. The more I weigh the more my total needs to be. After highschool I have no problem going up in weight classes