Have any of you heard about mogainzzz? I think that's his ig name. He's African, I believe. Seen a single Latina mom on my ig liking his pics (I feel like a creep when I look at friends activity on ig). Well anyways, he posted a picture of him self doing a flexing pose like Jeff seid/said whatever the heck his name is and said" I treat my idols as rivals, bla bla bla instead of wishing I was him, I busted my butt off to become bigger than him." The picture had 2 years training for him and Jeff said I think 6 - 8 years.
The guy is like 220 lbs now and he started at 100 lbs. never seen someone so talk and skinny, his body looked deformed before. So 120 lbs lean in 2 years, then claims that he treated his idol as rival and was motivated?
Almost forgot to mention, he has 62k followers on ig. He is giving motivation to plenty of woman though. They are too smart to know he's not on something...
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12-17-2013, 06:29 AM #91“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” - Benjamin Franklin
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12-17-2013, 06:29 AM #92
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12-17-2013, 06:30 AM #93
I dont care either way but... he obviously trains hard, that isnt the question. "Work" doesnt just apply to training. He supposedly doesnt bulk, trains one body part a day six days a week and does cardio only once. Obviously unless he is a lucky SOB, something has taken the guesswork out of him achieving a nice physique.
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12-17-2013, 06:31 AM #94
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12-17-2013, 06:34 AM #95
Judging by the size of his head compared to his body, I would say this is a bit of height fraud, low BF, and strong lighting.
Natural? Definitely obtainable in my opinion, he's got a nice physique, but it's nothing amazing.
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12-17-2013, 06:36 AM #96
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12-17-2013, 06:40 AM #97
What are you going on about?
"no one knows the hard work of natty bodybuilding" - are you mental? there are hundreds of millions of people who exercise and lift weights who don't use steroids
"everyone fukkin cares if you are juicing" - again, not sure if serious. There are dudes who frequent my gym who are clearly on dat dere. Nobody gives a fukk. Nobody comes up to them and yells at them. Nobody criticisizes them. Nobody gives a ****. They come in, lift, and head home without anyone giving a fukk whether or not they juice.
Like I already stated, it's only when these dudes who juice create the deception that they don't juice in order to sell you a product, diet plan, or lie about what gave them that physique. It's the nature of the industry, but urine idiot for getting so worked up over it and acting like that's not how it is.
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12-17-2013, 06:43 AM #98
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12-17-2013, 06:44 AM #100
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12-17-2013, 06:44 AM #101
ITT 'this is attainable natty. First of all lol.
He isn't natty. His deltoids, and traps alone ooze exogenous AAS. His muscle bellies, upper chest, cannon ball deltoids etc development are all linear signs of AAS.
Cocktail of drugs he's on.Last edited by iballin08; 12-17-2013 at 06:53 AM.
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12-17-2013, 06:44 AM #102
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12-17-2013, 06:54 AM #104
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12-17-2013, 06:57 AM #105
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12-17-2013, 06:59 AM #106
Strong irony.
I don't think he's not natty for only two years of lifting, but who cares, he's either genetically gifted or not natty, I never understand why people care so much?
Also why are people saying his bloated face gives away he's on tech? Srs question
People like Jeff Seid, Greg Plitt and Steve Cook all have chiseled faces, is it because some are using watermelon flavour whilst others have strawberry cell tech?
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12-17-2013, 07:00 AM #107Weak but lean crew
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12-17-2013, 07:04 AM #108
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12-17-2013, 07:07 AM #109
this is the most dumbest, yet most posted sentence on this bodybuilding forum (in threads like these). you really don't see why someone would freak out? how about this: a natty trainer must be meticulous with his diet, have a solid routine, do compounds, full body exercises...and diet diet diet!! everything must be dialed in, to maximize muscular growth or weight loss (depending on the goals of said lifter)
someone taking 'creatine' (or cell tech, whatever its' called these days)...that person has more margin for error, and can get faster gains in muscle, and ripped faster...obviously they have to put in the work though ( BUT SO DOES THE NATTY!!! ---> ...so that's not a valid argument anymore)
the reason why its messed up to lie about not being on 'creatine', is because other natty's will get misguided in proper ways to lift, and they'll sometimes have a false sense of what's possible/not possible with certain methods of training/dieting. why take us for the ride down your bs, self ego, delusional mind?
finally, i do understand that some lifters/sponsored athletes have a reason to claim natty. no hate against that..that's just the way it works. just LOL at people who get mad for them denying what is obviously true.Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything - all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important.
-Steve Jobs
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12-17-2013, 07:08 AM #110
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12-17-2013, 07:10 AM #111
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12-17-2013, 07:11 AM #112
i'm also very interested to know this. as for the guys you mentioned, when dehydrated, anybody can get a somewhat sunken looking face (within certain limits though...depends on starting bf%)
definitely interested in the bloated face thing though. is that true about those on creatine?Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything - all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important.
-Steve Jobs
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12-17-2013, 07:13 AM #113
i've changed my mind from the beginning of this thread. this guy is as natty as natty graham.
that 3d poppage.Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything - all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important.
-Steve Jobs
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12-17-2013, 07:14 AM #114
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12-17-2013, 07:14 AM #115
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12-17-2013, 07:15 AM #116Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything - all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important.
-Steve Jobs
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12-17-2013, 07:16 AM #117
Certain compounds can leave you prone to more water storage then ithers through aromatization. Again this is all avoidable through amortize inhibiting drugs like Arimidex.
Bloated face isn't a tell sign, he could just naturally have thick skin, and have a **** tier facial structure.
Guys like Plitt are constantly on mild doses of fat burning drugs like T3, clen at any given time. Keep in mind they need to be photo ready all year round, and are constantly ON, never off. Always blast, and cruising off lean promoting compounds like tren, and EQ.Weak but lean crew
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Look in the mirror before I go out for a pump crew
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12-17-2013, 07:17 AM #118
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12-17-2013, 07:19 AM #119
Yeah - you look great. But this is what natural looks like - exactly. You don't get those round full muscle bellies without AAS. His chest is too thick, that will never happen to a lean natural guy. His traps and delts are 'full' - like they have superior development. This is the first thing to happen with gear.
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