The Ultimate Hair Loss Survival Guide For Men (FAQ)

[BobisMighty]

I'm having real good progress with nizoral 1% and 5% minoxidil. lots of hair coming back.

[xRedStaRx]

How's the shedding hitting you guys on minox/fin?

Was pretty bad on month 3.

Starting to see improvements, shedding is a lot less than before.

[MerckKnowsBest]

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"Anything beyond NW 2 is death."

01-06-2014, 05:26 PM
xRedStaRx
Member

[Dissleksick]

Where do you guys buy legit generic propecia/proscar online?

[xRedStaRx]

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"Anything beyond NW 2 is death."

01-06-2014, 05:26 PM
xRedStaRx
Member

True.

There's no point growing your hair out past a NW2, might as well shave it.

But this is a thread for questions and not discussions, please do so elsewhere.

Where do you guys buy legit generic propecia/proscar online?

http://www.inhousepharmacy.biz/p-178-fincar-5mg.aspx

[MerckKnowsBest]

True.

There's no point growing your hair out past a NW2, might as well shave it.

But this is a thread for questions and not discussions, please do so elsewhere.

This is your fault, I'm going to punish you! Open your eyes xRedStaRx! I seen the invisible aligners, teeth are pretty big. At post 50 all will see unless you leave!

[Blacklabel3]

This is your fault, I'm going to punish you! Open your eyes xRedStaRx! I seen the invisible aligners, teeth are pretty big. At post 50 all will see unless you leave!

Take it somewhere else, man. This thread is helpful.

[Skirrel]

True.

There's no point growing your hair out past a NW2, might as well shave it.

But this is a thread for questions and not discussions, please do so elsewhere.



http://www.inhousepharmacy.biz/p-178-fincar-5mg.aspx

this might sound stupid, but do you think there's a difference between generic propecia/proscar and those manufactured by merck? also, do you use generic yourself?

[xRedStaRx]

this might sound stupid, but do you think there's a difference between generic propecia/proscar and those manufactured by merck? also, do you use generic yourself?

Finasteride is finasteride. It's the only ingredient.

As long as you're getting it, there is no difference.

Fincar seems legit from what users are reporting. I'm personally using proscar.

[CobaltB12]

Inhouse seems to have proscar, along with "proscar ITL." Is there a difference?

[xRedStaRx]

Inhouse seems to have proscar, along with "proscar ITL." Is there a difference?

It's still Merck's Proscar, but manufactured in Europe (France or Italy).

[BobisMighty]

I am getting a lot of shedding now, but still seeing hair coming back in the spots i'm applying minoxidil. i think i may cut down the nizoral usage. i currently use it every day. how often do you think i should use the shampoo?

[xRedStaRx]

I am getting a lot of shedding now, but still seeing hair coming back in the spots i'm applying minoxidil. i think i may cut down the nizoral usage. i currently use it every day. how often do you think i should use the shampoo?

The 2% nizoral shampoo can be used as often as EOD.

But generally, it should be used at least twice a week, 3x/week if irritation isn't a problem.

[bgalakazam]

1.5month on 0.5mg ED + 5% Rogain foam 1/day + 2% Ketokonazole shampoo 2-3times/week reporting. I haven't noticed any excess shedding or continued hair loss. I think I see small thin hairs popping up near the harline, but no signs of thickening yet. The decreased libido is there somewhat, but not all the time. No problems with performance. I think it may be a placebo or mental effect after reading all the scare posts by the < 1%. Should I start expecting any visible results besides the thin hairs near the hairline at the 3mo mark? 6mo? I'll post pics when I get a haircut later this week.

[notbadnotbrad]

I've been on fin and Kirkland minox since July, hair loss has completely stopped and thinning on the top isn't noticeable anymore. I got on fin at the very first signs of thinning. I remember someone pointed out I was thinning and I literally went to my campus pharmacy and got a prescription a week later. Since I'm in Canada I had to order the minox on eBay. Also to everyone saying shave your head you can all fuk yourselves, bald guys always look worse and only a small percentage of people actually look better bald. Applying minox twice a day and taking a small pill every morning isn't a huge deal at all, I'll gladly do this for the next 40 years. I'll be honest my looks mean a lot to me and I am superficial and want to look good for the opposite sex, come at me.

[giussepe20]

Can I take a thickening shampoo along with the s5 cream, keto and minox? I know the thickening shampoo wouldn't do anything as far as regrowing goes but I'd like to use it as a cover up until the other three start kicking in.

[xRedStaRx]

1.5month on 0.5mg ED + 5% Rogain foam 1/day + 2% Ketokonazole shampoo 2-3times/week reporting. I haven't noticed any excess shedding or continued hair loss. I think I see small thin hairs popping up near the harline, but no signs of thickening yet. The decreased libido is there somewhat, but not all the time. No problems with performance. I think it may be a placebo or mental effect after reading all the scare posts by the < 1%. Should I start expecting any visible results besides the thin hairs near the hairline at the 3mo mark? 6mo? I'll post pics when I get a haircut later this week.

Generally, hair should start to improve particularly after 3-4 months.

But improvement can increase well beyond the first year.

[wickedman]

Is the hair count on the graph in relation to the placebo or from the start of use regardless of what you would have normally lost correct. From what I am seeing it is from time zero, so fin over time is increasing your overall hair count, not just compared to what you normally would have lost ya?

[xRedStaRx]

Is the hair count on the graph in relation to the placebo or from the start of use regardless of what you would have normally lost correct. From what I am seeing it is from time zero, so fin over time is increasing your overall hair count, not just compared to what you normally would have lost ya?

Baseline at t=0 is the amount of hairs on your head, so the difference between t=0 and baseline is zero, naturally.

With placebo, you lose more hair than baseline, with finasteride, you gain more hair than baseline, on average.

[LeakyQuesadilla]

god damn this thread.

checked my scalp last night and my hair is f*cking thinning out at the f*cking crown.

prolly gonna hit that cue ball balding in like 10 years.

sigh....

dont wanna get on finasteride and get depression.

not sure what to do.

[WhoWasLift]

god damn this thread.

checked my scalp last night and my hair is f*cking thinning out at the f*cking crown.

prolly gonna hit that cue ball balding in like 10 years.

sigh....

dont wanna get on finasteride and get depression.

not sure what to do.

get on s5, rogaine, and niz ASAP

[LeakyQuesadilla]

get on s5, rogaine, and niz ASAP

rogaine is the minoxidil right?

wut is s5 and niz.

aware me on and give me some products.

will rep

[Rush4Life]

Hey Red, couple of questions for you - thanks for the thread by the way - to start how much more effective is minox once over twice a day? I use it but the liquid makes my hair super gross and I can only use it at night - the foam makes my hair look a little off so I don't use it in the morning either - any tips on that? As well u mentioned about upcoming treatments (cloning) that is really far away - is there anything else in the pipes that might be out in the next couple years?

And for any Canadians - I use to order my finasteride online but the last few times it kept getting caught at the border - instead i went in to the walmart - saw a random walk-in dr that I never met - and just asked her if I could get generic proscar instead of propecia (way cheaper) and she looked it up, saw it was made of the same drug and wrote me the prescription - its easy to cut and SUPER cheap - like 12 bucks or something -way cheaper than the **** i use to get in from India!

Thanks again red

[SwedeMuscleMob]

What type of pictures would you need me to post to assess if i might benefit from this? I can get my hands on minoxidil and ketoconazolethe but fin is probably harder because they just don't hand out prescriptions here

[RBS30T]

Has anyone ever switched from rogaine to regaine foam and shed a heap of hair?

I couldnt get Rogaine so i used regaine for a couple of months and lost a chitload of hair. It was that bad that im thinking about just shaving. The ingredients are different. Obviously the Minox is the same but the other stuff is different

[xRedStaRx]

Hey Red, couple of questions for you - thanks for the thread by the way - to start how much more effective is minox once over twice a day? I use it but the liquid makes my hair super gross and I can only use it at night - the foam makes my hair look a little off so I don't use it in the morning either - any tips on that? As well u mentioned about upcoming treatments (cloning) that is really far away - is there anything else in the pipes that might be out in the next couple years?

And for any Canadians - I use to order my finasteride online but the last few times it kept getting caught at the border - instead i went in to the walmart - saw a random walk-in dr that I never met - and just asked her if I could get generic proscar instead of propecia (way cheaper) and she looked it up, saw it was made of the same drug and wrote me the prescription - its easy to cut and SUPER cheap - like 12 bucks or something -way cheaper than the **** i use to get in from India!

Thanks again red

Well, the only study we know of is that twice a day 2% Minoxidil produced almost the same results as once a day 5% Minoxidil.

So with that said, it seems either longer exposure or higher concentration of minoxidil produced almost linear hair growth. Up until a point anyway.

I do not think there is much, if any benefit of applying 5% minoxidil more than twice a day, and with that said, the difference between once and twice a day should be lot less than double the results. How much exactly has not been measured to my knowledge. You could try twice a day every now and then if you are up for it, but once a day being the usual is still fine.

No, nothing come out. At least not in the next five years.

Depending on technological and medical advances, a cure should take at least 8-10 more years. Assuming no corporate interventions take place.

[papajoog]

Could s5 cream cause a shed?

What this guy said. I have long hair and wouldn't really want to lose much of it.

Thanks

[Skirrel]

Gonna make an appointment with a derm after semester's over in order to get proscar as well as tretinoin .05% for both facial skin and applying to hairline to improve minoxidil effectiveness.

I got 2 questions:

-what percent density of your top hair will you lose when the shed is at its worst on finasteride?
-What tretinoin brand do you recommend? I used retin-A micro in the past but it made my skin dry and was hard to apply. also, the little yellow balls were like sponges that served as a slow release drug delivery, but they fell off my face after applying.

redstar, here's an update on my situation:
I told my derm whats up today. He knew what he was talking, since it was apparent from our detailed conversion about hair loss in general. He agreed to prescribe me proscar, and even offered to have the proscar compounded (crushed up such that 1.1 mg is put into gelatin capsules) for me, although at a slightly higher cost. He said i was on the right track in using minox as well as getting finasteride.

also, the derm said that spironolactone is more likely useful for women than men. It had something to do with a compound in spiro (cant remember what he said) that takes up space in testosterone receptor (inhibits it i think, anyhow its not as useful as we think, but who knows for sure).

Tretinoin for skin care and overall cosmetic purpose was .05%, but with the brand . derm says it doesnt break down under sunlight and can be used in the day unlike other variants.

moral of the story:

-find a high rated derm with at least 20-30 ratings on healthgrades.com. they would more likely acknowledge your need for proscar instead of propecia (saving money)
-know what to ask for

[xRedStaRx]

rogaine is the minoxidil right?

wut is s5 and niz.

aware me on and give me some products.

will rep

Yes.

I'm surprised that are asking obvious questions, what do you think this thread was all about?

S5 is Spironolactone and Nizoral is Ketoconazole, just brand names for the active ingredient.

What type of pictures would you need me to post to assess if i might benefit from this? I can get my hands on minoxidil and ketoconazolethe but fin is probably harder because they just don't hand out prescriptions here

Check for progression of hair loss. You don't just take pictures now and asses, you need to have a timeline for accurate assessment.

Usually front shot, left/right profile and top view.

Hair must be damp and combed back in good lightning.

Has anyone ever switched from rogaine to regaine foam and shed a heap of hair?

I couldnt get Rogaine so i used regaine for a couple of months and lost a chitload of hair. It was that bad that im thinking about just shaving. The ingredients are different. Obviously the Minox is the same but the other stuff is different

They both have the same active ingredient.

Shedding hair is normal, be sure to follow proper protocol.

What this guy said. I have long hair and wouldn't really want to lose much of it.

Thanks

Yes it can, but that means it's working.

redstar, here's an update on my situation:
I told my derm whats up today. He knew what he was talking, since it was apparent from our detailed conversion about hair loss in general. He agreed to prescribe me proscar, and even offered to have the proscar compounded (crushed up such that 1.1 mg is put into gelatin capsules) for me, although at a slightly higher cost. He said i was on the right track in using minox as well as getting finasteride.

also, the derm said that spironolactone is more likely useful for women than men. It had something to do with a compound in spiro (cant remember what he said) that takes up space in testosterone receptor (inhibits it i think, anyhow its not as useful as we think, but who knows for sure).

Tretinoin for skin care and overall cosmetic purpose was .05%, but with the brand . derm says it doesnt break down under sunlight and can be used in the day unlike other variants.

moral of the story:

-find a high rated derm with at least 20-30 ratings on healthgrades.com. they would more likely acknowledge your need for proscar instead of propecia (saving money)
-know what to ask for

Spironolactone does the same function in both males and females. It binds to ARs therefore reducing androgenicity from testosterone and DHT. Other anti-androgens like RU does it more powerfully I imagine, and feedback has been amazing from what I hear.

Tretinoin absorbs into the skin pretty fast, it doesn't break down under sunlight unless you go outside shortly after application, or expose the contents to direct sunlight.

[Skirrel]

I'm using 5 mg finasteride manufactured by Hetero Drugs Limited (India). It was $9 for 30 pills at walmart. Its diameter is smaller than that of a pea, which makes cutting it into quarters hard.

Also, the derm i was talking about said to just jump into 1 mg ED. He said tapering up was unnecessary. thoughts?