Huge mother fuker at the gym giving me bro-science 24/7.. do I stand my ground misc?

[prime853]

You what?

You're gonna have to explain the whole difference in training for size and training to compete.

was meant to say a full body slit based on hypertrophy would give good gains* changed what I was saying halfway through and edited wrong

what im saying is that those who do compete generally have the time to workout 5+ days a week therefore can use different splits, some people only have time to workout 3x a week which is fine, plenty of people in the past made very impressive gains on it

[guyver79]

But dont you think certain training stratergys only work once your at your peak? maybe hitting groups once a week is much more ineffective if your a begginer then if your at your peak?

Straight off the bat I followed Dorian yates workout from his book.

Hitting everything once a week a couple of "warm ups" followed by one set to failure.

All I had to do is concentrate on that one set and I wasn't burning myself out and on countless sets.

I think it was quite effective as I grew just fine.

But I have no way of knowing if a full body would of been more effective.

All I can do is share my experience as a beginner I wouldn't or couldn't recommend a low rep/volume higher frequency routine because I didn't do that, I'd just be parroting all the no avi squat nazi's

You'll just have to try it for 6 weeks, you'll drive yourself mad over analyzing whether you should be doing this or doing that because some random anonymous poster on a message board said so.

[guyver79]

was meant to say a full body slit based on hypertrophy would give good gains* changed what I was saying halfway through and edited wrong

what im saying is that those who do compete generally have the time to workout 5+ days a week therefore can use different splits, some people only have time to workout 3x a week which is fine, plenty of people in the past made very impressive gains on it

Oh right I think we misunderstood each other.

If I could only train 3 times a week personally I would go full body.

I would probably split it into a push/pull/legs.

And yates has said you could make very good gains only training 3 times a week, I think Dexter Jackson only trained 3 times a week at one point and British ifbb troy brown I think earned his pro card after dropping down to training only 3 times a week, these are splits though not full body.

[prime853]

Oh right I think we misunderstood each other.

If I could only train 3 times a week personally I would go full body.

I would probably split it into a push/pull/legs.

And yates has said you could make very good gains only training 3 times a week, I think Dexter Jackson only trained 3 times a week at one point and British ifbb troy brown I think earned his pro card after dropping down to training only 3 times a week, these are splits though not full body.

yeah I heard the same and agree with yates, but 3x minimum IMO

[Womble619]

can someone explain the neg I just got on this thread.. im confused..

"you look like jason genover you cheeky kunt"

what the fuk does that mean?

[hellbilly1912]

Some of it is legit some of it is ****ing retarded

Do what works for you though, our bodies and nervous systems all react a little differently to different things. Guidelines are just that. Find your thing and do it hard.

[InspecktaDeck]

this thread is still going???

[guyver79]

yeah I heard the same and agree with yates, but 3x minimum IMO

Not necessarily, I've read Dante Trudal recommend DC training only twice a week if a client has a particularly physical job, which is essentially a upper/lower split.

Stuart Mcrobert suggests a fully body every 4 days or something.

I've never seen or heard of anyone that actually uses a 2 day a week split though.

[guyver79]

this thread is still going???

Yeah, just chatting n sharing ideas.

That ok?

[Womble619]

can someone explain the neg I just got on this thread.. im confused..

"you look like jason genover you cheeky kunt"

what the fuk does that mean?

lol serious doe.. in 4 answers on this ^^

[brbacquiring]

lol serious doe.. in 4 answers on this ^^

jason genova, look him up

[Sakeoe]

OP, the obvious solution here is to simply hit him back. Tell him "Thanks for the advice but I don't want to get huge, I just want to be toned".

[prime853]

lol serious doe.. in 4 answers on this ^^

lold at "Genover"

der der der hahahahhahahahhaa

[iballin08]

Incline, and weighted dips are arguably superior to flat bench for chest development. All though they aren't necessarily chest exercises, rather a press movement that I find targets the shoulders, and tris the most.

Best way to develop your chest is through flys, and dips. This isn't to say skip bench, but utilize all these exercises together, even have a day where you target the chest with flys alone for optimal chest development.


From my experience, there is no such thing as under training rather under eating. If the muscle recovers, hit it again. More volume, better growth and gains in the long run. I've been squatting twice a week, and am seeing rapid gains opposed to once a week stigma. If the muscle is recovered, hit it again.

[Valerun]

There is a difference between being nice/social and actually taking on his advice