Big Ramy's Corner

[Unbiasedfan]

Something sets heath and kai apart from Ramy as of now. Call it condition, maturity, separation, detail, hardeness or a combination of those, but Ramy still lacks against those 2. He will not surpass either this year.

Hope someday he can achieve that look, or something similar, while keeping healthy, but it will not be easy, and i doubt it will take only a couple or even 3 years...he may never be able too. "maturity" and years of training didn't make jay's arms look any harder...they were still soft, and it wasn't in is genes to able to get that hard look phil has to them.

Hope Ramy can do it, eventually.

[Alito2013]

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[Dawlphinracer]

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Edit: Message sent!

lmao wtf you think a fuking great coach and an ex solid competitor in the IFBB doesn't know the obvious…. cmon brah

Send him another message. This time tell him the sky is blue.

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[yaz_rulz]

lmao wtf you think a fuking great coach and an ex solid competitor in the IFBB doesn't know the obvious…. cmon brah

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Obviously He knows what he is doing.. As a fan, I told him what I felt like telling him.. I am sure that fans do send him messages..

[RoroCwalker]

Obviously He knows what he is doing.. As a fan, I told him what I felt like telling him.. I am sure that fans do send him messages..

In one of his videos, if I'm not mistaken, he says to post the questions for the Q&As on his wall because he doesn't read his inbox due to large amount of messages being sent.

[Big Slim DaDDy]

If you do that be ready for millions of notifications of people commenting on what you wrote in the same way we did.

[ltrrtl218]

On the whole separation topic, what do you guys think actually is the reason some have more separation than others. Is it conditioning, genetics a combination of both? Also how does a muscle being too big make it looks separation?

[Canuck77]

On the whole separation topic, what do you guys think actually is the reason some have more separation than others. Is it conditioning, genetics a combination of both? Also how does a muscle being too big make it looks separation?

IMHO, separation, inserts, lines are genetic...but it takes years of training and top notch conditioning to bring them out.

Think of your abs. No amount of training or maturity is going to change the lines, separation in your abs but whatever lines and separation you do have will only be evident with optimal conditioning.

Ramy has never reached the same level of conditioning as Phil/Kai so we really can't say whether or not his lines, separation and cuts will be equal to, better/worse than Phil/Kai.

Once/If we see Ramy onstage with some seriously striated gluteus and a sunken face then we will be able to see his muscle separation, inserts, lines a lot more clearer. In saying that, due to his size, I don't think he has to have the greatest lines or separation in the world because even decent lines and separation will allow him to trump his competitors due to his freaky size.

Also think and remember that Menzer (arguably best conditioned Pro ever) did not ever crack the Mr. O top 6...so size plays an obvious role but it needs to be a balance of size and condition, Dorian, Ronnie, Jay '09, Dex, Phil...all have that balance...Ramy has the freaky size but not quite there with the conditioning to really bring his physique out.

[RoroCwalker]

On the whole separation topic, what do you guys think actually is the reason some have more separation than others. Is it conditioning, genetics a combination of both? Also how does a muscle being too big make it looks separation?

I'm positive it has something to do with muscle size.

For instance, Ramy has never displayed that amount of separation he had on his quads before since he grew.


Same with Coleman.




Then you look at guys like him and say "how does he show more detail than the pros?" ;


I don't know how it scientifically works but my guess would be that because each muscle fibre grows = less condensed = what looks like "less separation".

A bit like when you blow a balloon, everything stretches out.

[lordlosh]

RoroCwalker, can i ask you to put pic comparison between Ramy and Heath and Ramy and Kai. All the way, front and back shots.
Thanks in advance.

[Big Slim DaDDy]

Ramy has been on a pro stage 3 times. How many times did Heath and Kai compete in pro contests before they got to their #1 and #2 spots? He's incredible but thinking he will surpass either of these guys so quickly is very wishful thinking. I wouldn't bet on it this year but in time, who knows?

[AniMaLizTik]

I'm positive it has something to do with muscle size.

For instance, Ramy has never displayed that amount of separation he had on his quads before since he grew.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/m4NEQtc.jpg[img]

Same with Coleman.
[img]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/mmarrella/rc4.jpg[mg][img]http://www.muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=imgd=42151&op tion=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202[/g]

[img]http://www.muscletime.com/dex.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=39849&op tion=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202[mg][img]http://www.muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=42148& option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202[mg]

Then you look at guys like him and say "how does he show more detail than the pros?" ;


I don't know how it scientifically works but my guess would be that because each muscle fibre grows = less condensed = what looks like "less separation".

A bit like when you blow a balloon, everything stretches out.

I see what you're getting at. I'm certain that it's GH. I dont think Ronnie ever touched GH until '97, then he stepped on stage on '98 ~40lbs heavier, dry as a bone but not as much detail.

I've seen some INSANELY detailed natty bber's. None of the IFBB pros even come close to them in terms of detail. i.e. doug miller. put this guy under the youtube guy's gym lighting and he'd look like -10% bf and be more detailed than that guy as well.

[Giant_Killer]

I see what you're getting at. I'm certain that it's GH. I dont think Ronnie ever touched GH until '97, then he stepped on stage on '98 ~40lbs heavier, dry as a bone but not as much detail.

That or IGF-1 which is rumored to be responsible for Ramy's rapid gains

[RoroCwalker]

RoroCwalker, can i ask you to put pic comparison between Ramy and Heath and Ramy and Kai. All the way, front and back shots.
Thanks in advance.

Sure, I'll do it when I get the time.

I see what you're getting at. I'm certain that it's GH. I dont think Ronnie ever touched GH until '97, then he stepped on stage on '98 ~40lbs heavier, dry as a bone but not as much detail.

I've seen some INSANELY detailed natty bber's. None of the IFBB pros even come close to them in terms of detail. i.e. doug miller. put this guy under the youtube guy's gym lighting and he'd look like -10% bf and be more detailed than that guy as well.
[img]http://www.dougmillerpro.com/images/doug-yorton-09_3shots.jpg[img]

When you say it's GH, what do you mean exactly? What would GH do to your body for it to lose separation?

[flangmasterj]

When you say it's GH, what do you mean exactly? What would GH do to your body for it to lose separation?

Maybe increase the thickness of the fascia around the muscle thus reducing the depth of separation?

Yeah I broscience hard.

[AniMaLizTik]

Sure, I'll do it when I get the time.



When you say it's GH, what do you mean exactly? What would GH do to your body for it to lose separation?

the illusion of "seperation" exists due to the contrast of a developed muscle a midst UNDEVELOPED connective tissues. GH causes the connective tissue to grow, therefore reducing the contrast, in turn, destroying the illusion of "seperation".

just my guess...

[RoroCwalker]

I see..interesting.

I wonder if there's a certain to prevent it, it would be incredible to see a guy the size of pros with the detail these amateurs have.

[Big Slim DaDDy]

I see..interesting.

I wonder if there's a certain to prevent it, it would be incredible to see a guy the size of pros with the detail these amateurs have.

Probably not. Growth hormone will make everything grow.

[Alito2013]

June 2014

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[Canuck77]

June 2014

mind = blown.

If he can get his conditioning together over the next couple of years, Phil's reign my be shorter than a lot of people had anticipated.

[Alito2013]

[macmacc]

Damn!

[Alito2013]

[Giant_Killer]

that sweep is just outrageous

[AtxBrah]

I think once ramy steps on stage with philsulina he will give him a run for his money.

[AniMaLizTik]

I think once ramy steps on stage with philsulina he will give him a run for his money.

B-B-But Phil has better seperation?!?!

brb seperation > proportions, size, thickness, width, muscularity, mind blowing ratios, etc

[Groggery]

B-B-But Phil has better seperation?!?!

brb seperation > proportions, size, thickness, width, muscularity, mind blowing ratios, etc

How could we forget that contests are judged mainly on mind blowing ratios...

Keep it in your pants there, you're outshining Alito.