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    Pretty much

    Work is so slow that we're allowed to browse our phones, play video games and do crossword puzzles. The machines run themselves and yet we get paid this much because people don't want to relocate for the jobs. Living the dream.

    Lulz at all you people with four year degrees who work as cubicle slaves for a third of my income. How's the rat race to make the rich people even richer?
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    Stationary Engineer. They're needed almost everywhere throughout BC, Alberta, Sask and Quebec. Six figure income and it's a 86 hour work week. There are companies like Meg Energy, Connocher and ConnocoPhillips which pay $200K+ and companies like Syncrude pay as much as 190. Outside of oil it's low six figure incomes but you still get a pension.

    Usually get full retirement defined pension at age 58.

    Canada has always paid well in blue collar. We've had Americans and Europeans come here for years, wait out until they get their citizenship and then get a blue collar job.
    Damn. That sounds awesome. What are the barriers for Americans though? Can you just jump into a stationary engineer position, or is it harder if you're not a citizen?
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    Originally Posted by MasterYomega View Post
    Damn. That sounds awesome. What are the barriers for Americans though? Can you just jump into a stationary engineer position, or is it harder if you're not a citizen?
    It's almost impossible as a non-citizen. The only Americans in the Canadian Oil Sands are Engineers. We don't really recognize foreign trade or technician papers.

    You could hypothetically come up here on a student visa and do a diploma in Power Engineering and then appealing to all the companies to take you in on a work visa.
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    Originally Posted by RCMDCanuck View Post
    Stationary Engineer. They're needed almost everywhere throughout BC, Alberta, Sask and Quebec. Six figure income and it's a 86 hour work week. There are companies like Meg Energy, Connocher and ConnocoPhillips which pay $200K+ and companies like Syncrude pay as much as 190. Outside of oil it's low six figure incomes but you still get a pension.

    Usually get full retirement defined pension at age 58.

    Canada has always paid well in blue collar. We've had Americans and Europeans come here for years, wait out until they get their citizenship and then get a blue collar job.
    wait, what do you need to qualify for these jobs and how hard is it to get?

    just don't believe that **** is sustainable unless there are sever barriers to entry besides location
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    Originally Posted by Kinbote View Post
    wait, what do you need to qualify for these jobs and how hard is it to get?

    just don't believe that **** is sustainable unless there are sever barriers to entry besides location
    The barrier is steam time. Almost impossible to get unless you do a diploma or a steam lab but both are a years' waiting list to get in. But that's Canada - there's also a waiting list of one year for all the pre-apprenticeships. In contrast - there's no waiting list for engineering or computer science and some engineering programs will accept anyone (51% in math).
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    Network Engineering/Security, $75K, 29.

    No degree because college seemed like a waste of my time.
    wtf? Do you work for a government agency/body/military or is this a private company? How'd you get your job?
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    Originally Posted by RCMDCanuck View Post
    Pretty much

    Work is so slow that we're allowed to browse our phones, play video games and do crossword puzzles. The machines run themselves and yet we get paid this much because people don't want to relocate for the jobs. Living the dream.

    Lulz at all you people with four year degrees who work as cubicle slaves for a third of my income. How's the rat race to make the rich people even richer?
    It's all for the chance at higher earning power relative to our blue collar counter parts
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    Originally Posted by RCMDCanuck View Post
    The barrier is steam time. Almost impossible to get unless you do a diploma or a steam lab but both are a years' waiting list to get in. But that's Canada - there's also a waiting list of one year for all the pre-apprenticeships. In contrast - there's no waiting list for engineering or computer science and some engineering programs will accept anyone (51% in math).
    Interesting; I'm gonna look into this. What's your daily/weekly schedule look like?
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    Originally Posted by Jwock View Post
    It's all for the chance at higher earning power relative to our blue collar counter parts
    A chance that you will never receive let alone get the recognition you deserve.

    Blue collars dominate the money making industries with the exception to the 1% of investment bankers who watch American psycho, those studying medicine or becoming engineers.

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    Originally Posted by Jwock View Post
    It's all for the chance at higher earning power relative to our blue collar counter parts
    Yeah everyone thinks they will end up as a partner but that's not the real world. I know scores of accountants, lawyers and engineers and I bet they all thought, in their 20s, they would be rich someday but that didn't work out for them.

    Blue collar in Canada is a safer bet than the roulette that white collar work is. There's a chance you might be a rich white collar but there's also a chance you might win the lottery.
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    I write code most of the day. I develop prototypes of data-driven products and do analytics for a mobile startup. It's pretty low stress since I don't write production code, so if anything breaks at 4 AM, I'm not the one on call.

    It's a startup, so I usually don't have to be in the office until 10. I leave around 6:30. This gives me time to wake up early to hit the gym.

    It's a pretty good life. I had to sacrifice quite a bit in my younger years, though.
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    A chance that you will never receive let alone get the recognition you deserve.

    Blue collars dominate the money making industries with the exception to the 1% of investment bankers who watch American psycho, those studying medicine or becoming engineers.
    With the exception of Petroleum Engineers - Engineers don't make any money unless they make firm partner (which only 0.5% of graduates will ever make). There's a reason why most engineering graduates give up and work in finance with their degrees.

    The reality in Canada is that most Tradesmen and Technicians are better off then their white collar counterparts. There are white collars do well and make bags of money but in theory that also happens to tradesmen who start their own business. The wealthiest guy I know is a Glazier who employs 30 workers.
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    Originally Posted by iballin08 View Post
    A chance that you will never receive let alone get the recognition you deserve.

    Blue collars dominate the money making industries with the exception to the 1% of investment bankers who watch American psycho, those studying medicine or becoming engineers.

    It's not what you know it's who you know.
    You do realize that you are within the upper echelons of your particular industry and most
    'blue collar' work in regards to earnings. And to remit what I said earlier and also what you are saying now by using the terms blue collar vs white collar. To say outright that one dominates the other would be incorrect. and investment
    banking, medicine, and engineering are not the only disciplines that can compete with blue collar
    work. every industry or profession has its outliers (you being one in yours and compared with most US
    blue collar work) also strong unawareness of the earnings potential and likelihood of
    attainment of some 'white collar' professions
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    Originally Posted by Jwock View Post
    You do realize that you are within the upper echelons of your particular industry in regards to earnings.
    Beside to remit what I said earlier and also what you are saying now by using the terms blue collar vs white collar.
    To say outright that blue collar dominates white collar would be incorrect. and investment
    banking, medicine, and engineering are not the only disciplines that can compete with blue collar
    work. every industry or profession has its outliers (you being one in yours and compared with most blue collar work)
    but you are also incredibly unaware of the particular career path that I am pursuing
    Dude. For people to make those incomes you're talking about - they're usually older than 30 / 35 and by then they're years in income (and student debt) behind the blue collar types.

    We have people here in Canada who are making $200K in the Alberta Oil Patch at age 21. Tell me *******, TELL ME *******, how many white collars make more than $200K? Await your response.

    All you ****g0ts on misc think you'll be firm partners or millionaire doctors - not the real world brah.

    You'll going to end up as depressed middle class professionals who only make $90K (maybe $120K tops) with 4 kids and a 20+ year mortgage. Enjoy your life suckers.
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    Did you go to college for CS and did you do any internships?
    I went to college for math and taught myself how to code for fun. I did intern at a firm doing analytics for pharma. I returned to that job after graduating with a $70k ($80k with bonus) offer out of college. I left after a year a joined a new company starting at $90k. I got a raise last July that pushed me to $100k.
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    Originally Posted by KibbieKatze View Post
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    how do you become a consultant at 25? i thought you needed like a ton of experience/knowledge to consult?

    Originally Posted by liftheavy211 View Post
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    i know them feels brah
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    I call bull**** on 90% of this thread.

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