100 Years of selective Breeding, how humans ruined Dogs

[CuntDestr0yer]

And people say evolution isn't real...

lmao

there's two types of evolution.

OP is basic 3rd grade science...

However, life from non life is BS.

sadly, neckbeard hardcore religious-evolution *******s mix the two.

sorry brah, trees and animals didnt arise from a hot mix of cells and some other schit, u can take that and shove it.

<< not even religious, dont need to be indoctrinated.

[VeinyPenor]

looks just like my doge

[J-Bol]

[youtue]SV7el_Aoo[/youtube]

this should explain better

lol @ the judge at the end in complete denial. I'm sure the dog with ataxia is much more suited to working.

[Vayne]

The pug looks the same to me in that link.

[J-Bol]

The pug looks the same to me in that link.

Minor differences in appearance compared to the other breeds. The legs are shorter, larger body, more wrinkles on the face, and the muzzle is slightly up turned in the modern pug. But, it wasn't a working breed to begin with.

[J-Bol]

Full B.BC documentary:
Pedigree Dogs Exposed

[Valeurvaleur]

Don't worry, OP, Silver Fang gon' get 'em sons o' biches:

[AsianMike]

lol @ these poverty dog owners here

i have a pure bred german shepherd with AKC papers

buahahhaa can't wait until it becomes an adult, it will be a sexy show dog(lower hind legs and thick chest)

mutts=POverty dogs, gets sick a lot, and has questionable temperament. This is why mutts are worth $50 and pure breeds are worth 800+

[Dutchspliff]

lol @ these poverty dog owners here

i have a pure bred german shepherd with AKC papers

buahahhaa can't wait until it becomes an adult, it will be a sexy show dog(lower hind legs and thick chest)

mutts=POverty dogs, gets sick a lot, and has questionable temperament. This is why mutts are worth $50 and pure breeds are worth 800+

you eat dogs

[RevolutionMuscl]

Yep. Another example is the American Pit Bull Terrier v the American Staffordshire Terrier. They were bred from the exact same blood years ago. The AST was created for the ''look'' of the fighting dog without the reputation.

APBT


AST:


And there was quite a riff in the community when people were registering American Bullies under the name of American Pit Bull Terrier. They ended up breaking off and forming their own breed and club for American Bullies.

American bullies are complete **** dogs. They've lost pretty much all the natural athleticism and strength that the APBT/AST has and become a short, fat, stupid, massively inbred dog that can barely even breath, much like the english bulldog. The unethical breeders that created these dogs should be ashamed.

[Vayne]

I've seen some pure white bulldog pups go for $2000.

[RevolutionMuscl]

I've seen some pure white bulldog pups go for $2000.

If your talking english bulldogs, the new owners will be spending a lot more than that on vet bills over the dogs short life. I will never understand peoples fascination with a dog that is such a genetic mess.

[arn710]

This is what happens when you buy vanity dogs from breeders

If you're not rescuing mutts, you're the problem

[webcam]

designer puppies are pathetic
lol @ humans encouraging artificial selection without thinking of the consequences or knowing enough to do so

[AsianMike]

If your talking english bulldogs, the new owners will be spending a lot more than that on vet bills over the dogs short life. I will never understand peoples fascination with a dog that is such a genetic mess.

what's $2000 when you get a crappy $200 mutt or backyard breed dog and have to pay thousands in vet bills just to keep it alive

buying a mutt is worse than buying a pure breed because the health issues are questionable whereas health issues for pedigree dogs have specific targets

this is why I NEVER ADOPT. Always buy from a breeder

adopting=you are contributing to a backyard breeders mistake

[DjinnMarie]

There is nothing wrong with selective breeding. Hence show dogs, who have none of these problems and are the best of their breed.

The problem is non selective breeding within the same breed. Puppy mills. Inbreeding (which causes this) is not selective breeding.

[AsianMike]

designer puppies are pathetic
lol @ humans encouraging artificial selection without thinking of the consequences or knowing enough to do so

every dog today was once part of artificial selection. All dogs came from wolves after all

[RevolutionMuscl]

what's $2000 when you get a crappy $200 mutt or backyard breed dog and have to pay thousands in vet bills just to keep it alive

buying a mutt is worse than buying a pure breed because the health issues are questionable whereas health issues for pedigree dogs have specific targets

this is why I NEVER ADOPT. Always buy from a breeder

adopting=you are contributing to a backyard breeders mistake

You're assuming that all "mutts", as you put it, have out of the ordinary health problems, with is not correct. Many of the health issues that purebred dogs have come directly from their genes coming from a relatively small genetic pool. This is not an issue in mixed breed dogs. I actually think a lot of mixes has LESS health problems over than pure bred dogs.

[arn710]

Inbred doesn't equal bad breeding.

Do you even science bro?

Why do you think human inbreeding is illegal?

[hawaiifivebro]

Asian Mike = hipster dog owner.

[webcam]

every dog today was once part of artificial selection. All dogs came from wolves after all

got some natty selection in there too though

[pr0digy11]

Pure bred only

sorry not poor, like my dogs like i like my humans, alpha with a pure blood line

[alexanderq]

Repped, always repped.

Rescued a malnourished Saint Bernard myself.

repped
uncle has 2 st Bs
such cool/cuddly dogs - he brings them to Dalhousie uni during exam times so uni kids can relax during studying and hang with the dogs
also he brings them to elementary schools and such and kids with reading difficulties chill and read to the dogs - no judgement from the dogs just love

heres an article on the dal program
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...ents-1.1138766

really cool dogs

edit: quote from the reading program

Paws To Read

Paws To Read matches child certified therapy dogs and handlers with children who struggle to read. Kids read to the dogs and are encouraged to pick books they think the dog would like to hear. The dogs provide undivided attention to the kids as they read aloud. We captured some special moments at the Woodlawn Library in Dartmouth as St. Bernard "Roc" listened to young readers with handler Mark Grant at their regular training sessions. Studies have shown that reading to dogs encourages confidence and boosts self-esteem in children who struggle to read aloud in class. The Paws To Read Program is offered in select libraries throughout HRM. For further information, contact the HRM Library in your area.

plus pic of his two St Bs

[RevolutionMuscl]

There is nothing wrong with selective breeding. Hence show dogs, who have none of these problems and are the best of their breed.

The problem is non selective breeding within the same breed. Puppy mills. Inbreeding (which causes this) is not selective breeding.

The problem with show dogs is just that, they are bred for looks only. Nothing to do with how they perform physically. Many dogs breeds were created or perfected to perform a certain task, in a physical sense. With the exception for the breeds that are used in police and military work this is not really the case anymore, so you end up with dogs that some middle aged lonely women as been breeding to look good trotting around a ring, with no other purpose or actual ability.

[Molec]

And people say evolution isn't real...

lmao

evolution is shaped by 'survival of the fittest"...showroom breeding is shaped by 'survival of what *******s think looks nicest"

[rotatoo]

that bull terrier looks like a sock puppet!

[5x10]

This is what happens when you buy vanity dogs from breeders

If you're not rescuing mutts, you're the problem

vanity puppies need homes too

Mixed breeds have less genetic issues than pure breed, in my experience
But, to say all dogs are ruined is a blanket statement on a minor issue

[AsianMike]

You're assuming that all "mutts", as you put it, have out of the ordinary health problems, with is not correct. Many of the health issues that purebred dogs have come directly from their genes coming from a relatively small genetic pool. This is not an issue in mixed breed dogs. I actually think a lot of mixes has LESS health problems over than pure bred dogs.

this is a major misconception.

buying a pure bred dog from a reputable breeder. A reputable breeder will give you OFA health clearances from its parents to insure that it will be a healthy puppy. It's also easier targeting specific health ailments so that you will be prepared to treat it as soon as it arrives.

whereas adopting a MUTT/poverty dog/mongrel (aka you are contributing to a backyard breeder's mistake) has an unknown lineage, so you never know what problems it will have when it becomes an adult. For example a german shepherd/labrador mix might have hip displaxia especially if the parents weren't OFA certified.

fact is, buying a $150-$100 mutt is not worth it. You will on average be paying more on vet bill over time compared to an $800 pure breed dog.

do your research. I'm an owner of an AKC german shepherd i bought from a breeder. Both parents had health clearances. I paid $500 for it

[pr0digy11]

evolution is shaped by 'survival of the fittest"...showroom breeding is shaped by 'survival of what *******s think looks nicest"

same concept

you are not intelligent/10

[Molec]

Do you even science bro?

Why do you think human inbreeding is illegal?

He is right...if the source group has no major genetic problems, inbreeding can be good. Look at Ashkenazi Jews inbreeding and what it has done for their IQ