Are deadlifts worth the risk? (srs thread)

[Negligence]

Doing rack pulls is the equivalent of doing half rep squats.

Not even close. Have you even done them before? Better yet try snatch grip rack pulls and come back and say rack pulls are overrated etc.

[Cheeseburger12]

I'm not even going to go out of my way and make a list of all the greatest strongman competitors who were mostly 6+ ft. Instead I'm just going to call you a moron

Not sure if srs? Long legs + short arms = back rounding no matter what.

[amikaelmorris]

Not sure if srs? Long legs + short arms = back rounding no matter what.

or you have poor hamstring mobility as most tall kunts do and once you do the prehab work you can get yourself into a strong position without back rounding

and i find it kind of hard to believe you have short arms when i'm staring at an avatar of you flexed and your hand is damn near at your hips

[waystid]

not to be a ******* here, but it could be because some people are built mechanically for a better bench than a squat or dl. muscle insertions and the placement of joints and bones do effect how much force or less force it takes to push weight.

just saiyan'

Uh no. You might have a different ratio but there is no way in hell your bench will be higher than your squat or DL if you put the same amount of training and intensity into each lift.

Not sure if srs? Long legs + short arms = back rounding no matter what.

provide MS paint diagram for proof

[randomalias]

Not sure if srs? Long legs + short arms = back rounding no matter what.

Not really, just means your torso is going to be more horizontal. Your backs only going to round if you let it because your form sucks.

[RevolutionMuscl]

I'm not even going to go out of my way and make a list of all the greatest strongman competitors who were mostly 6+ ft. Instead I'm just going to call you a moron

Yes, because name calling is such an effective argument, and I didn't say ALL tall people, even how tall, you such made an assumption. pls go.

[glossin]

Being short with long arms is the best build for deadlifts IMO. Less range for the bar to travel and more leverage with the long arms and angle it will put legs/ hips at. I'm looking at you Maxx

[TreyTrey]

stopped deadlifting at 320?

that guy can't be fukking srs

i deadlifted 320 when i was a 150lb fukking twig my 2nd month lifting.

strong power lifter that DL's half his squat/bench too. lmfao.

[4g64fiero]

Lettuce be realtea, most lifting newbs don't know how to assess their imbalances and should not be deadlifting. Especially if you sit at a desk all day and have posterior pelvic tilt.

It's not for everyone.

[Stomwin]

Just started deadlifting, and I love it, started real light like 40kg, now on 60kg, which is a plate each side. Never been an ego lifter, just getting in there having someone watch my form and enjoying it, already noticing benefits also. I think it is easy for people to injure themselves on this lift by being lazy bastard's, lifting with the incorrect form makes it so much easier and I think people these days love an easy way out, as soon as it starts getting hard form goes out the window for them.

[Cheeseburger12]

or you have poor hamstring mobility as most tall kunts do and once you do the prehab work you can get yourself into a strong position without back rounding

and i find it kind of hard to believe you have short arms when i'm staring at an avatar of you flexed and your hand is damn near at your hips

Hamstring mobility is fine. Stretch 4 times a week.

[4g64fiero]

Hamstring mobility is fine. Stretch 4 times a week.

Then your hips aren't low enough or your rolling your shoulders forward or both. pls sty safe you are courageous for trying

[Kentisc]

Not sure if srs? Long legs + short arms = back rounding no matter what.

Sumo pulling is the solution.

[JamesW129]

Should someone with pre-existing back problems deadlift? I've stopped for a while but I really want to be able to deadlift.

Ask your doctor ...

[HomerJThompson]

correct me if i'm wrong but isn't a squat more potentially risky for the back than a deadlift due to compressive forces? thats what every resource i've read seems to say

No, stopped deadlifting crew, sucks, wish I could do it but back pain is such a horrible thing.

[sillydawg]

If you spend time learning proper form and drilling it in you should be good.

Thanks a lot for posting this video. My form was bad. only been deadlifting for 2 months and was somewhat winging it.

lol at pussies ITT. Have fun never being strong. If you bench more than you squat or DL then you are without a doubt lazy and weak

That's very arrogant. Why not stay safe and be strong af? c'mon bro.

EDIT: and the man (powerlifter at the gym) who told me this was much stronger than you. You're 5'11" 180 and he was 5'10 250+ ( Can't estimate wieght well after that point. could have been 300ish. ) His arms were probably like 20 inches. He was repping 500 raw. repping.

[Cheeseburger12]

Sumo pulling is the solution.

Tried that for a while, but did not like it. Went for rackpulls instead.

[jakobi78]

Completely serious. Biggest ego lift there is. Especially people who place the bar at knee level or even higher, you're doing yourself no favors. Useless exercise. Not even the best secondary movement for the dead lift, would be way more beneficial to do deficits for most people.

coz most people are doing them wrong...the bar should be slightly below knee level and your shoulders should be slightly in front of the bar not behind the bar...

[JamesW129]

Everyone needs to stop pigeon-holing themselves and giving excuses and just do the lifts

[jakobi78]

Doing rack pulls is the equivalent of doing half rep squats.

dude, you're so dumb

rack pulls eliminates leg work...focus MOSTLY on back itself

[rotatoo]

I was at the gym, and I talked to a power lifter benching 500lbs raw. and 700 something with the benching vest. I asked him his dead lift and squat, and he said he squatted 500+ but stopped dead lifting at 320 something. Saying by the time you're in your 60's you'd have crushed disks and a horrible back.

Hodgetwins don't believe in dead lifting because of the risks But Elliot Hulse does. (I get a lot of advice from them.)


I wanted to get some misc opinions to decide if I should leave them out of my lifting.

I think they only make a difference to your physique if you arent squatting with volume and depth... Maybe some spinae erector thickness but nothing which is worth the risk


source: Used to deadlift 490lbs (nothign special I know) till realised it was a waste of time



its just an ego lift tbh

[Maestro]

farmers walks are far supperior to deadlifts.

farmers walks are not a substitute for deads. All you're working with them is your grip, forearms and bit of the traps.

Deadlifts work the grip, forearms, posterior chain, core abdominals, lower back, traps, neck, hamstring.

farmers walks are a great compliment to deadlifts but not as a replacement for them.

[JDM-EJ1]

Yeah, I do them; but I don't go heavy at all. I usually just do like 4x10 @ 155lbs maybe 185lbs. I don't care about lifting a lot of weight.

[sillydawg]

I actually think after doing deadlifts for awhile strengthening your entire back, you LOWER your risk of injury. I've been deadlifting for 7 years, all the while I worked in warehousing and then as a delivery truck driver, first delivering soda, then kegs of beer. Kegs weigh 165 pounds each and I was delivering 70-80 of them a day, which did involve picking them up and stacking them 2. sometimes even 3 high. Not once have I had a back injury or back pain. I attribute much of this to my years of deadlifting.

Saw lots of injuries in my co-workers doing the same job.

Thanks for replying with this. Seems like deadlifting will help outside of the gym with regular back things, But Maybe lifting passed a certain point on deadlifts like 800lbs on the back might be to much for the gel in between the spine.

The only reason it won't "feel right" is if you are using improper form which is most likely the result of a combination of tight muscles/poor lifting habits in general. The dead lift is the most basic movement pattern of a human being. Everyone should be able to perform it.

A few months back I ran into a guy who was in his 60's at the gym. He got into the power rack next to mine. He proceeded to deadlift, warming up to 405, then doing like 5-6 working sets with perfect form, no drama, no grunting, herking or jerking. Very clean reps. Got to talking to him, turns out he was a competitive powerlifter back in the 80's and 90's, he just started competing again in the masters class. I was def. mirin.

Thanks for posting. He might have been very lucky, or maybe using perfect form for life. Really hoping his form was just on point.

Not worth it. Back surgery bro checking in. 9/10 chronic pain in your lower back is the worst thing imaginable.

i'm sorry bro. Did you get it from deadlifting, or are you just warning about the pain? Hope you get better

[Ernie2Bert]

Arnie DL'd. Does his back look f'd up?

[p7nk]

I was at the gym, and I talked to a power lifter benching 500lbs raw. and 700 something with the benching vest. I asked him his dead lift and squat, and he said he squatted 500+ but stopped dead lifting at 320 something. Saying by the time you're in your 60's you'd have crushed disks and a horrible back.

Hodgetwins don't believe in dead lifting because of the risks But Elliot Hulse does. (I get a lot of advice from them.)


I wanted to get some misc opinions to decide if I should leave them out of my lifting.

the twins are funny, but they're dumb as ****. Elliot on the other hand, i listen too

[Brahhphomet]

Deadlifting taught me how to properly lift chit. It made it easier for me to shovel snow and lift boxes at work.

Form>Weight always

[HammerDance45]

there is risk walking across the street. if you use good form you will be perfectly fine.

[amikaelmorris]

I think they only make a difference to your physique if you arent squatting with volume and depth... Maybe some spinae erector thickness but nothing which is worth the risk


source: Used to deadlift 490lbs (nothign special I know) till realised it was a waste of time



its just an ego lift tbh

http://instagram.com/p/coxY5DDACZ/

that's maxx and that's my go-to for this kind of post

you don't develop spinal erector thickness like that from squatting and even he would admit his squat is kind of weak(no offense maxx) compared to his deadlift

like i said earlier, if you think that isn't the definition of lower back injury prevention, you've got it fuked up

[Dave P]

Only do Rack Pulls these days, maybe once in a while I'll throw Deads in just to change it up but 95% of the time its Racks.


Also dont try to go over 400 anymore, dont see the need and have hurt myself in various ways.



That hemorrhoid ass hole explosion from going too heavy...no bueno.