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    need help/critique in my modified CBL diet plan for lean bulk

    m writing in hope to get help asap as i have to ready for a competition in jan 2014,
    i hail from india an amateur drug free natural bodybuilder and new to CBL and doing some research on it.
    many say it works and some say it doesnt . but i m planning to try it out

    now i have fairly cut well say 12-13% bf. but have lost my size too,
    so need to gain some lean mass/size as well keep fat low.

    im 5.9 and now weigh 176 lbs ,train 4 times a week and 1 day cardio hiit.
    i have started witrh the cbl (but modifies it according to my needs)
    my daily diet on training days is
    morning(dont have coffee as i feel its make me restless. so morning 10.30am 5 egg whites with 2 yolks on pan with 1 tbsp coconut oil and cheese.
    (but now i read that egg can spike insulin so will be eating chicken mince or legs with oil and cheese)
    1.30pm -100-120 gms chk breast or thighs(meat only) +veggies like cabbage or cauliflower(100gms) and 1 efa cap.
    after this meal at 4.30pm a pre workout drink like myo blitz or hemavol. then train at 5pm till 6.15pm.
    after 15 mins 2 scoops whey iso 100+ 50 gms dextrose in water

    1 hr later 100 gms rice or white potatoes+ chicken breasts 120 gms (no fat in this meal)
    then after 2.5 hrs 100 gms chicken thighs or beef in oil+ 100 gmswhite rice+ 1 efa.

    after 1 hrs a whey with 1 banana (thats 2 hrs before sleep)


    am i on the right cbl track?
    please please help me.
    feel free to add/adjust /modify my diet .
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    Please provide us with your TDEE, your macro-nutrient breakdown and total number of calories.
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    Originally Posted by health4life24 View Post
    Please provide us with your TDEE, your macro-nutrient breakdown and total number of calories.
    im trying to break down that
    a little bit weak in keeping and counting the numbers .
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    Are you aware you don't need whey and dextrose PWO
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    Are you aware you don't need whey and dextrose PWO
    Yes mate , but u see i have very low carbs till post workout and i feel damn tired and sore after my workouts . Im training giant sets. Thats why i use it
    Also as i state ihave modified it according to my needs
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    What's your reasoning for doing CBL?
    Delirious Mutant.
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    Why low carb until post work out?

    what he said ^^
    Eat the damn yolk.
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    Just realize that everything you're doing, all the special nutrient timing and patterning, the supplement, etc. will result in, at best, equal results and much more likely worse results than simply consuming a rational diet with proper energy calibration and micro/macronutrient sufficiency.
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    Originally Posted by necon76 View Post
    What's your reasoning for doing CBL?
    to loose some more body fat and gain lean muscle size
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    Originally Posted by necon76 View Post
    What's your reasoning for doing CBL?
    to get more lean and gain some more muscle
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    guys i need help from guys who have experienced with cbl
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    Originally Posted by samit View Post
    to get more lean and gain some more muscle
    Why do you think it will make you lose fat and gain muscle?
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    Why do you think it will make you lose fat and gain muscle?
    mate if i knew this i would not be asking help here
    in this world no body knows whats good for them and whats not irts a try and test . sure what ever u have done in like u must have not been sure for every thing to come positive . same here
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    Originally Posted by samit View Post
    to get more lean and gain some more muscle

    Based on your avatar, you don't have enough fat to be able to accomplish both. Pick one goal or the other, then target your nutrition to that one goal.


    Carb back loading might provide some small benefit to someone who's already at single-digit body fat levels and seeking to get even leaner, but for a guy who's admittedly not closely tracking his intake, it's a total waste of effort.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Based on your avatar, you don't have enough fat to be able to accomplish both. Pick one goal or the other, then target your nutrition to that one goal.


    Carb back loading might provide some small benefit to someone who's already at single-digit body fat levels and seeking to get even leaner, but for a guy who's admittedly not closely tracking his intake, it's a total waste of effort.
    so u mean to say that guys with 9% bodyfat will only benefit from CBL?
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    Originally Posted by samit View Post
    so u mean to say that guys with 9% bodyfat will only benefit from CBL?
    No, he's saying that only people that are untrained and/or overweight-obese can lose fat and gain muscle at the same time..
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    Originally Posted by sa7soon View Post
    No, he's saying that only people that are untrained and/or overweight-obese can lose fat and gain muscle at the same time..
    ^^^^ This.







    And also:

    Originally Posted by samit View Post
    a little bit weak in keeping and counting the numbers .
    You're attempting to apply a tactic (micro-managing your insulin levels) that is relatively insignificant in results for the average joe, while ignoring a tactic (weighing/measuring/tracking your food portions) that will make significant difference in your physique.



    It's the nutritional equivalent of a 130-pound noob worrying about how to increase his Wrist Curl poundage when he can only Squat an empty bar.



    Get your priorities in line.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    ^^^^ This.







    And also:



    You're attempting to apply a tactic (micro-managing your insulin levels) that is relatively insignificant in results for the average joe, while ignoring a tactic (weighing/measuring/tracking your food portions) that will make significant difference in your physique.



    It's the nutritional equivalent of a 130-pound noob worrying about how to increase his Wrist Curl poundage when he can only Squat an empty bar.



    Get your priorities in line.
    ok mate
    can u guide me then in which diet i must follow or some diet links
    or may b should try tkd or carb nite etc?
    plz help i have a competition next month
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    Originally Posted by samit View Post
    ok mate
    can u guide me then in which diet i must follow or some diet links
    or may b should try tkd or carb nite etc?
    plz help i have a competition next month
    A competition? In a month? And you're looking for "diet links?"



    Sorry; I can't help you at this time. You should spend some time lurking in the 'contest prep' forum, and get some idea of what's required in order to step on stage.
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    Originally Posted by samit View Post
    ok mate
    can u guide me then in which diet i must follow or some diet links
    or may b should try tkd or carb nite etc?
    plz help i have a competition next month
    At this point, I can't help but conclude that you're trolling.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    A competition? In a month? And you're looking for "diet links?"



    Sorry; I can't help you at this time. You should spend some time lurking in the 'contest prep' forum, and get some idea of what's required in order to step on stage.
    ok thanks for the idea .
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    At this point, I can't help but conclude that you're trolling.
    y wud i troll??
    i have better things to do than troll . and if i were u i wouild help if i had knowledge not call names to others.
    i dont do it for adding my post count.
    any way i think no body has the time or knowledge on cbl to help .
    so good bye
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    Originally Posted by samit View Post
    y wud i troll??
    i have better things to do than troll . and if i were u i wouild help if i had knowledge not call names to others.
    i dont do it for adding my post count.
    any way i think no body has the time or knowledge on cbl to help .
    so good bye
    Lol bye
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    Originally Posted by samit View Post
    y wud i troll??
    i have better things to do than troll . and if i were u i wouild help if i had knowledge not call names to others.
    i dont do it for adding my post count.
    any way i think no body has the time or knowledge on cbl to help .
    so good bye
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    Originally Posted by samit View Post
    y wud i troll??
    i have better things to do than troll . and if i were u i wouild help if i had knowledge not call names to others.
    i dont do it for adding my post count.
    any way i think no body has the time or knowledge on cbl to help .
    so good bye
    If you don't take the time to help yourself, why would anyone else do it for you ?

    I'm guessing the reason he thinks you're a troll is because (seemingly from your posts), you waited until 1 month before competition to start preparing for it.
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    dint knw it was in 1 month .its my 1st time

    and neg rep me . it doesnt bother as i dont post useless post and gain a point
    if u cant hep u dont belong here whoever
    is shows how frustrated ur and selfish not helping the needy . many better forums on the net where less *******s like some are there
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