PS4 pre-order numbers are hugely inflated due to people buying and re-selling

[RaibeartBruis]

for a profit. But now that they're cancelling their pre-orders, we'll see the numbers even out. The count from mid-October was 725,000 vs 525,000.

Agree or disagree?

[The_Albatross]

for a profit. But now that they're cancelling their pre-orders, we'll see the numbers even out. The count from mid-October was 725,000 vs 525,000.

Agree or disagree?

negged for stupidity

[AirCanada]

OP confirmed as retard.

[RaibeartBruis]

negged for stupidity

Fact: Everyone on this forum who pre-ordered is cancelling. What say thee?

[FeralBeast]

Fact: Everyone on this forum who pre-ordered is cancelling. What say thee?

both consoles were being bought to be resold.

but OP has a point, after the ps4 E3 hype train, I'm sure more ps4s were bought to be sold compared to Ones.

[ChristmasFnatic]

The fact that its still being bought from flippers, means it is still sold. lol

[RaibeartBruis]

The fact that its still being bought from flippers, means it is still sold. lol

Flippers are not flipping successfully - they're cancelling their pre-orders. I suspect fewer flippers pre-ordered XB1s.

It seems like the superior console is rising to the top.

[FeralBeast]

The fact that its still being bought from flippers, means it is still sold. lol

yea but OP is talking about the flippers who are cancelling their preorders (because apparently they can't sell them at a good price?)

[ChristmasFnatic]

Flippers are not flipping successfully - they're cancelling their pre-orders. I suspect fewer flippers pre-ordered XB1s.

It seems like the superior console is rising to the top.

yea but OP is talking about the flippers who are cancelling their preorders (because apparently they can't sell them at a good price?)

Not sure about the total numbers of flippers cancelling. But regardless, they are most likely cancelling it cuz their prices are absurd, or trust issues from either or both parties(seller and buyer). Those cancelled units will just go to someone else at retail price.

[hundieMachine]

Work in electronics at a box retailer and have at least 50 people come in daily and ask if they can pre-order the ps4 still.

I just think the flippers are realizing that they probably won't be able to double their money...and after shipping fees etc they aren't looking at massive profits like with previous consoles. I fully expect that Sony will adequately supply consoles. Most big box retailers are getting nightly trucks until the new year, so after the first few days, i doubt anyone will go ps4-less for much more than a week.

[The_Albatross]

Fact: Everyone on this forum who pre-ordered is cancelling.

this isn't a fact.

and they will be sorry.

[FeralBeast]

Those cancelled units will just go to someone else at retail price.

that's true.
Honestly, both consoles are most likely going to be completely sold out by the end of their respective launch weeks. I'm talking the entire stock that was produced.
So in the end the console that sold the most units at launch will be from the company that produced the most units.

just my opinion though. maybe microsoft and sony will surprise me and actually produce enough stock to meet/exceed demand.

I doubt they will though.

[Comboking]

sup

http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonr...-media-winner/

[drvillain]

happens for every console, and the % of people that do it are of the minority. Figures, that I'm most likely going to do the same for the x1

[RaibeartBruis]

sup

http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonr...-media-winner/

"And even though PlayStation will get an extra week to sell consoles and build an early lead, SDL is predicting from its data that Xbox One will end up outselling its rival by 1.5 to 1 for the holiday season."

Intredasting

[JerseyBrahh]

I think the sales will even out for both parties

[Hallu]

"And even though PlayStation will get an extra week to sell consoles and build an early lead, SDL is predicting from its data that Xbox One will end up outselling its rival by 1.5 to 1 for the holiday season."

Intredasting

It is true though PS4 buyers are the LOUDEST by far. I am buying the Xbox One but I don't feel the need to persuade people with my decision like the other crowd. I still think PS4 will end up outselling XBones though due to price.

[JerseyBrahh]

I still think PS4 will end up outselling XBones though due to price.

Half of me thinks that and the other half thinks all the media entertainment will make up for it

[ralphlaurenbrah]

lets see... ps4 $100 cheaper.

launching in 22 countries instead of 14.

comes out a week earlier.

will for sure dominate the asian market.

already outsold xbone 2:1





but oh xbone is definitely going to outsell ps4 despite all of this. not srs.

[ralphlaurenbrah]

Fact: Everyone on this forum who pre-ordered is cancelling. What say thee?

fact: I sold 2 ps4's already over craigslist. one for $775 cash, one for $650 cash.

[ShoryuBrah]

in for later

[jamesbwbevis]

fact: I sold 2 ps4's already over craigslist. one for $775 cash, one for $650 cash.

strong idiots you'r finding

[Misctify]

Lol at this thread. Figures an insecure xbox fan would make it. Haha.

[ShoryuBrah]

PS4 flipper brahs, are any of you canceling your preorders? Looks like people aren't even making that much of a profit this time around and Sony/MS are definitely looking to not make the same mistake as last launch. Just might not be worth the headache for me.

[SammyJr]

i think op has a point. one could pre order as many as 5-6 PS4's at launch (bc of all the launch bundles), while you could only preorder 1 Xbox one at launch (at least on amazon)

PS4 flipper brahs, are any of you canceling your preorders? Looks like people aren't even making that much of a profit this time around and Sony/MS are definitely looking to not make the same mistake as last launch. Just might not be worth the headache for me.

preordered 4 ps4's, 1 xb 1. sold one ps4, will keep one.. deciding what to do with the other 2. same with xbox.. not sure. just tried craigslist and hopefully will get lucky

[The_Albatross]

PS4 flipper brahs, are any of you canceling your preorders? Looks like people aren't even making that much of a profit this time around and Sony/MS are definitely looking to not make the same mistake as last launch. Just might not be worth the headache for me.

why would someone pay more for the console right now when it hasnt even released? The buyer would feel like an idiot if he paid 600 dollars for it on ebay only to see them available on store shelves in a week or two. There is no incentive for someone to pay above retail right now. If it was that big a deal to someone to get the system on release day they themselves would have preordered one. You won't see a sizable return on a pre-order until the system releases and the stores are cleaned out. Lol at canceling a preorder. You'll be kicking yourself in a few weeks when Black Friday rolls around and parents are desperate to find one.

[RaibeartBruis]

fact: I sold 2 ps4's already over craigslist. one for $775 cash, one for $650 cash.

"Those who charge usury are in the same position as those controlled by the devil's influence. This is because they claim that usury is the same as commerce. However, God permits commerce, and prohibits usury." Al-Baqarah 2:275

[SammyJr]

fact: I sold 2 ps4's already over craigslist. one for $775 cash, one for $650 cash.

When did you sell them? How long did it take to find these people? Where did you meet them? Was it risky?

Did you put your actual email or number on the ad?

I have the Craigslist email set up but I don't think I'll get as many offers

[The_Albatross]

"Those who charge usury are in the same position as those controlled by the devil's influence. This is because they claim that usury is the same as commerce. However, God permits commerce, and prohibits usury." Al-Baqarah 2:275

usury doesn't mean what you think it means

[Market_Pantry]

Work in electronics at a box retailer and have at least 50 people come in daily and ask if they can pre-order the ps4 still.

I just think the flippers are realizing that they probably won't be able to double their money...and after shipping fees etc they aren't looking at massive profits like with previous consoles. I fully expect that Sony will adequately supply consoles. Most big box retailers are getting nightly trucks until the new year, so after the first few days, i doubt anyone will go ps4-less for much more than a week.

remember the wii shortage? took about a year just to see them readily available in stores