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    any idiot can run....that doesnt make you in great shape....

    to be in great shape, you gonna have a low resting heart rate....
    good mile time
    not being tired often
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    I started adding 2 spin sessions into my weekly routines and it has boosted my energy levels. If I were 22 instead of what I am now, I probably wouldn't need to though.
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    Agree with OP, feels good being one of the few decent sized guys that can actually run. Run 3-4 miles a day 5-6x a week.


    Originally Posted by cm2ac View Post
    Not really, you just don't eat a lot.

    2 hours of cardio is 1200 cals on a treadmil when you do it on the max incline (15/15 incline + 5/20 speed at my gyms treadmills)...I could eat 1200 cals in <3 minutes. id rather just not do any cardio and just eat less.
    2 Hours of cardio is 1200 cals for you? Lol not a fkn chance. You running slow as **** then and your Hr isn't going above 60 BPM

    Originally Posted by jakobi78 View Post
    any idiot can run....that doesnt make you in great shape....

    to be in great shape, you gonna have a low resting heart rate....
    good mile time
    not being tired often
    The more you run the easier distance and faster you're going to get.
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    Take it from me, I used to do 5 x 45 min of cardio each week : CARDIO IS OVERRATED if your goal is to get BIGGER and STRONGER. As soon as I stopped doing cardio my gains literally EXPLODED. My bench was stuck at 165 for months, within 11 months of no cardio I pushed 250. As soon as I stopped cardio, my biceps went from 16.75 to 17.75' in about a year, and I only gained 5 lbs of fat.

    Here's the truth: There's only so much you can make your body do. Cardio, yoga, lifting, boxing, whatever - Wish I could do all of it. I can't. So I've set priorities: 1. Get Stronger 2. Everything else. I'm not saying drop cardio completely, or that it's 100% bad, but if your goals are to be huge and jacked, I suggest not prioritizing it until it's time to get cut. Adding cardio back in for a cut after awhile of not doing it is amazing for body comp. But why spend recovery/lifting time on it when it's not needed right away? I mean, yes, I get that it's nice to be able to run - but unless you are playing soccer or you need to run, why put energy into it? Even if you want to get your heart rate up, I prefer walking briskly or doing lots of volume on weights.
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    Originally Posted by samir316 View Post
    Take it from me, I used to do 5 x 45 min of cardio each week : CARDIO IS OVERRATED if your goal is to get BIGGER and STRONGER. As soon as I stopped doing cardio my gains literally EXPLODED. My bench was stuck at 165 for months, within 11 months of no cardio I pushed 250. As soon as I stopped cardio, my biceps went from 16.75 to 17.75' in about a year, and I only gained 5 lbs of fat.

    Here's the truth: There's only so much you can make your body do. Cardio, yoga, lifting, boxing, whatever - Wish I could do all of it. I can't. So I've set priorities: 1. Get Stronger 2. Everything else. I'm not saying drop cardio completely, or that it's 100% bad, but if your goals are to be huge and jacked, I suggest not prioritizing it until it's time to get cut. Adding cardio back in for a cut after awhile of not doing it is amazing for body comp. But why spend recovery/lifting time on it when it's not needed right away? I mean, yes, I get that it's nice to be able to run - but unless you are playing soccer or you need to run, why put energy into it? Even if you want to get your heart rate up, I prefer walking briskly or doing lots of volume on weights.
    But what's the point of being "big and jacked" if you can't even get out of your own way. I see guys that think they're big (220+ 15% BF) and they couldn't run a quarter mile at a slow ass 7mph pace if their life depended on it...pathetic.
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    There's a difference between being "in shape" and "fit". Bodybuilders don't do cardio but they look great and muscular so yes they are in shape. People that are athletic and do cardio are fit.

    In other words gtfo jogging ****.
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    Originally Posted by Getter_done View Post
    Anybody can just fuking jog everyday, u dont see many people bust their ass in the gym to become huge or extremely strong, because that actually takes a lot of work. Running a bunch doesnt make u in great shape, id like to see them get through an intense wrestling practice and see how in shape they are. brb jogging endlessly and thinking ur somehow special.
    im a powerlifter my buddy is a long distance runner. we started playing hockey in a beer league by my house.

    who do you think has legs in the third period?

    the powerlifter who sucks at long distance running.

    "in shape" is a relative term. if I ran a 3 miler with him he'd smoke me. if we ran a 40 yard dash i'd beat him. who's in better "shape"?
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    Originally Posted by 98camarozzz View Post
    But what's the point of being "big and jacked" if you can't even get out of your own way. I see guys that think they're big (220+ 15% BF) and they couldn't run a quarter mile at a slow ass 7mph pace if their life depended on it...pathetic.
    Clearly they don't have the same goals as you. Do they think you're pathetic because you can't bench 400 lbs?
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    Cardio is TIGHT TIGHT.

    To all those who are against it: low bf% =/= good health. There are lots of lean people with visible cuts that have horrible health because they never do cardio.
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    Originally Posted by PowerHaus19 View Post
    There's a difference between being "in shape" and "fit". Bodybuilders don't do cardio but they look great and muscular so yes they are in shape. People that are athletic and do cardio are fit.

    In other words gtfo jogging ****.
    There are no guidelines to what is "fit". Being able to move large amounts of weight for high reps could easily be seen as "fit".
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    I also do cardio 3 times a week,
    it has several benefits:
    better heart
    more energy and feeling good
    bone density
    increase immune system etc.
    My 2-year transformation, gaining 28lbs of lean muscle
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    Originally Posted by heynah View Post
    I lol at anyone who claims to lift for health but does no cardio. Hill sprints and 400s ftwp
    Had high BP at 21. Solely lifted to bring it in check. Have been running near perfect BP due to solely lifting.
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    Originally Posted by Cjjlpsp View Post
    Clearly they don't have the same goals as you. Do they think you're pathetic because you can't bench 400 lbs?
    Touche, evidently there's no functional strength/cardio goals ITT.

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    Originally Posted by itsRoi View Post
    I also do cardio 3 times a week,
    it has several benefits:
    better heart
    more energy and feeling good
    bone density
    increase immune system etc.
    run along, these guys want to bench 400+ and be clouds
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    wrestling and biking is the only fun cardio 4 me
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    is this fuking man take ???

    we eat a lot because the fuking muscles need that fuking much of food . eating like fuking girl and do no fuking cardio for men is fuking gay.
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    lol at people looking like holocaust survivors and thinking they are "in shape". srs running 30 miles a day on nothing but kale juice is not healthy brahs. People need to find a balance between aesthetics, function, and health.
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    been meaning to get back into running but its just too boring, rather do 30 sec sprint rest 30 secs repeat this 6 times then lightly jog for warm-down for 4 mins, much much more rewarding and i dont get that bored
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    Originally Posted by 98camarozzz View Post
    Touche, evidently there's no functional strength/cardio goals ITT.

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    run along, these guys want to bench 400+ and be clouds
    "functional strength"

    What functions?
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    can't run a mile without being fukked crew. Need to implement cardio but I have chit lungs
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    Originally Posted by thehypocrit View Post
    "functional strength"

    What functions?
    Do you really not know what I mean by function strength/cardio or you jus trollin?



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    Originally Posted by 98camarozzz View Post
    Do you really not know what I mean by function strength/cardio or you jus trollin?



    Pls respond
    Yes I am serious.

    What is your definition of functions?

    Your arguments are basically your interpretation of certain words and the cut offs you are giving for certain exercises.

    ego complex much?
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    Originally Posted by thehypocrit View Post
    Yes I am serious.

    What is your definition of functions?

    Your arguments are basically your interpretation of certain words and the cut offs you are giving for certain exercises.

    ego complex much?
    Without copy and pasting a large scientific definition, I would just simply say I'm referring to being strong enough and having a CVS strong enough to save your own life. To climb over something, to be able to pull up your own weight, climb up ****, do burpees, handle your own weight in an obstacle course. The ability to perform all types of physical work, at all levels of intensity. You're looking too far into it, trying to create an argument lol
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    Originally Posted by chicago View Post
    im a powerlifter my buddy is a long distance runner. we started playing hockey in a beer league by my house.

    who do you think has legs in the third period?

    the powerlifter who sucks at long distance running.

    "in shape" is a relative term. if I ran a 3 miler with him he'd smoke me. if we ran a 40 yard dash i'd beat him. who's in better "shape"?

    Is it a constant league (5 guys on the ice all the time) or a league with line changes? That's an important detail.
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    http://www.bmj.com/content/337/bmj.a439
    Conclusion Muscular strength is inversely and independently associated with death from all causes and cancer in men, even after adjusting for cardiorespiratory fitness and other potential confounders.
    As someone who used to swim competitively do a **** load of miles in the pool for months at a time I don't think cardio is really anything worth the time invested into it. I can run much further and faster now and in general feel much better just doing resistance training. If you do enough volume with lower body you should have no problems running a mile. I doubt most of the cardio bros ever do squats with some decent weight for sets of 20-25 reps. That **** will really test your conditioning
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    Without copy and pasting a large scientific definition, I would just simply say I'm referring to being strong enough and having a CVS strong enough to save your own life. To climb over something, to be able to pull up your own weight, climb up ****, do burpees, handle your own weight in an obstacle course. The ability to perform all types of physical work, at all levels of intensity. You're looking too far into it, trying to create an argument lol
    So basically anyone that has hit the gym for more than three months? I know someone basically at 35% bodyfat at my gym who can do pullups with ease

    The only person looking too far into it is you when you insult bodybuilders with this "function strength" bs

    Most the functions you stated are basically useless in everyday life anyways
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