Looks like trades are killing college

[Brobreh]

Canadian brahs, accounting or electrical engineering?

Never heard of pipe fitting before.

There's still jobs in accounting, however accounting is becoming MAJORLY over saturated. Literally everyone is majoring in accounting due to common misconceptions that it's somehow a guaranteed path to success. It's very competitive and this is increasing every year. There are a lot of people in this major that simply aren't good for accounting and don't belong. Your best bet for accounting in Canada is to live in Alberta.

Can't speak for engineering, however I've never heard of unemployed/unsuccessful engineers?

[xMetalocalypse]

There's still jobs in accounting, however accounting is becoming MAJORLY over saturated. Literally everyone is majoring in accounting due to common misconceptions that it's somehow a guaranteed path to success. It's very competitive and this is increasing every year. There are a lot of people in this major that simply aren't good for accounting and don't belong. Your best bet for accounting in Canada is to live in Alberta.

Can't speak for engineering, however I've never heard of unemployed/unsuccessful engineers?

Hence why you get a masters.

If you can't find a job with a masters in accounting, you may as well give up.

Masters are the new bachelors people.


But if you want a bachelors only, these fields provide the best opportunities

-IT
-Engineering
-Medicine

[Brobreh]

Hence why you get a masters.

If you can't find a job with a masters in accounting, you may as well give up.

Masters are the new bachelors people.


But if you want a bachelors only, these fields provide the best opportunities

-IT
-Engineering
-Medicine

MBA you mean? Not at all required here in Canada for entry level. You'd be a complete idiot to get your MBA before you've gone out and got some years of experience under your belt.


In fact MBA isn't really even required for higher level positions. Some corps may require you to get one to advance, but all the people I know of who are controllers/vps/cfo most don't have MBAs

[xMetalocalypse]

MBA you mean? Not at all required here in Canada for entry level. You'd be a complete idiot to get your MBA before you've gone out and got some years of experience under your belt.


In fact MBA isn't really even required for higher level positions. Some corps may require you to get one to advance, but all the people I know of who are controllers/vps/cfo most don't have MBAs

I'm speaking more for Americans, in Canada it seems to be a hell of a lot easier to get your foot into a career.

But yeah, in terms of job prospects, a dude with a Masters will almost always beat the 80% of others with only a bachelors 90% of the time. MBA is a good choice, especially for accounting.

[TheApathy]

What's your major?


And yeah you don't need college OR a trade to become successful. If you have an insane amount of drive and an entrepreneurial mind, you can write your own meal ticket. Ex: CEO/10k a day high school/college drop outs becoming insanely successful with their own businesses. My guess is luck and timing plays a big part too.

Can't reveal everything on the internet brah

[Brad155]

Literally every one one of my friends in my engineering program either has a internship for this next summer, or is graduating and has job offers.

Go to a good school with a good program.

Starting pay ranging from 60-80k, with plenty of room to move up.

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This. 90% of my graduating class is literally struggling to choose which job offers to accept, lulz.

[xMetalocalypse]

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This. 90% of my graduating class is literally struggling to choose which job offers to accept, lulz.

Engineering of peace. Probably the most failproof major. Would do if I wasn't a calc retard.

[TomsGunz]

blue collar work is always expanding,

oil and gas average age of workers is 45
5 - 10 years they will be retiring
they need to hire more younger people now to learn from the experienced to take over for the next 20years

anyone can do a office job to an extent, not everyone wants to work outside in all weathers doing manual labour

[Brobreh]

I'm speaking more for Americans, in Canada it seems to be a hell of a lot easier to get your foot into a career.

But yeah, in terms of job prospects, a dude with a Masters will almost always beat the 80% of others with only a bachelors 90% of the time. MBA is a good choice, especially for accounting.

Wow that's really rough man. I can't even imagine having to get a masters degree to get an entry job for something like accounting lol. That would sure as hell thin the herd though I'd imagine. Even getting a masters at any point in an accounting career seems pretty unnecessary, unless the company demands it for advancement.

Yeah the prospects in Canada (especially Alberta) are pretty decent for accounting, but like I said, TONS of grads every year, however almost as many jobs

[xMetalocalypse]

blue collar work is always expanding,

oil and gas average age of workers is 45
5 - 10 years they will be retiring
they need to hire more younger people now to learn from the experienced to take over for the next 20years

anyone can do a office job to an extent, not everyone wants to work outside in all weathers doing manual labour

This is true, but the economy is taking a turn towards service, and less in manufacturing. And once the baby boomers get the fuk out of the jobs, prospects should be a hell of a lot better for everything. They are the ones holding new grads back.

Wow that's really rough man. I can't even imagine having to get a masters degree to get an entry job for something like accounting lol. That would sure as hell thin the herd though I'd imagine.

Yeah the prospects in Canada (especially Alberta) are pretty decent for accounting, but like I said, TONS of grads every year, however almost as many jobs

In America nearly every field is oversaturated besides engineering. So we get our engineers from Asia.

[SuperTrooper14]

If you're going to get a degree, make sure you go to a university where they have some sort of guaranteed internship program. I got fuked over really badly, lost a term in second year due to sickness and didn't have necessary prereqs to take internship class during third year. Due to some procedural stickler bullchit they wouldn't let me take the internship class in my 4th year. Now I missed out on extremely valuable work experience.

Brb major in accounting with 76% average
brb cant get a job in a cpa accredited training office let alone a standard business job
brb feeling miserable

[bonerise]

that feel when your friends are already making good money in the trades and buying houses while you're still spending thousands of dollars on college

[xMetalocalypse]

If you're going to get a degree, make sure you go to a university where they have some sort of guaranteed internship program. I got fuked over really badly, lost a term in second year due to sickness and didn't have necessary prereqs to take internship class during third year. Due to some procedural stickler bullchit they wouldn't let me take the internship class in my 4th year. Now I missed out on extremely valuable work experience.

Brb major in accounting with 76% average
brb cant get a job in a cpa accredited training office let alone a standard business job
brb feeling miserable

You're in Canada, you'll be fine.

[xMetalocalypse]

that feel when your friends are already making good money in the trades and buying houses while you're still spending thousands of dollars on college

It will all pay off in the end though. You have to keep in mind that, while your buddies excel in the trades, you will eventually make bank (probably more than they do) in 5-10 years after you graduate.


Debt is a bish though.

[JoshSP1985]

This^

I graduated mechanical engineering and I supervise about 30 trades guys, the earning potential for the trades is capped, as a supervisor i start at the highest salary I am managing and go up from there.

Capped if you're working for someone else sure. Starting your own business in the trades is one of the easiest business to start however and you can make extremely good money starting a business in trades.

[P0S0S]

I am going for accounting in Canada, would it be better if I went to college a year after and worked in trades for a bit, IE go to Alberta and make that $$.

[TreesOpenDoors]

Don't give up with pharmacy!



I wouldn't do trades even if it could give me as much money as what university will offer me or more (which is extremely unlikely). The work itself is just unappealing.

I'll be 24 when I start pharmacy school (theoretically). Might give it a 2nd or 3rd try if i get rejected, but after that it'll be a waste of time and the $ return wouldn't be worth it. Graduating at 29-30, with that kind of debt. Wouldn't even be able to live comfortably with a 6 figure salary until it's too late to enjoy it

Everyone says to work at your own pace in college, but it's different when your schooling takes 8 years.

[xMetalocalypse]

I'll be 24 when I start pharmacy school (theoretically). Might give it a 2nd or 3rd try if i get rejected, but after that it'll be a waste of time and the $ return wouldn't be worth it. Graduating at 29-30, with that kind of debt. Wouldn't even be able to live comfortably with a 6 figure salary until it's too late to enjoy it

Everyone says to work at your own pace in college, but it's different when your schooling takes 8 years.

Meh. It's never too late to go to graduate school and expand your education and job prospects. I don't plan on finishing my education until at least 30.

I'm more worried about getting into grad school right now.

[TreesOpenDoors]

Meh. It's never too late to go to graduate school and expand your education and job prospects. I don't plan on finishing my education until at least 30.

I'm more worried about getting into grad school right now.

You're 19 brah, you'll be fine. I wish i was thinking that far ahead when I was that age.

Point is, if trade is my last chance at a decent salary starting at 30 y/o, i'm definitely taking it w/o thinking twice

[xMetalocalypse]

You're 19 brah, you'll be fine. I wish i was thinking that far ahead when I was that age.

Point is, if trade is my last chance at a decent salary starting at 30 y/o, i'm definitely taking it w/o thinking twice

Brah you're only 3 years older, you seem to think you're late to the party. Most people don't even get serious about school UNTIL 25-30. You will make it. No homo.

[Idontlikeit]

Someone need to do the trade jobs.

Imagine if everyone went to college and had an engineer type jobs, would be out of balance.

[2ndRateTroll]

Brahs I'm in the military with no degree (but working on associates) but I'll get out around 25 years old with the GI bill to go to either a trade school or college. Will I make it? I feel late to the party

[MrB1g]

Thread argument: college is too expensive for MOST people with little results
Your response: my friend who is in a good program at a good school is making money

Lol ok, still the 99% of college grads don't get jobs in ibanking

I agree completely with the main argument. The majority of kids I see at University won't secure jobs.

My point was simply that University does and can open up opportunities for success far greater than a trade. If you're someone who is hard working and determined, then it probably is worth pursuing a degree if you can.

Not 100% sure how University is paid for in the States. In Australia it's just put on a debt you only repay when you're above an income threshold so 'I can't afford it' isn't really a valid argument.


Cheers.

[ditsy911]

Lol at people going to school only to get from point A to B.It seems like we've long forgotten that education isn't about going to school to get a paper.

Except that it is. I'm about to finish a degree in Information Systems and I've been working in IT for four years. Other than some programming/database modeling that I could learn on my own within a month from a $10 paperback book, absolutely nothing about my schooling has made me better at my job.

Yay college!

[xMetalocalypse]

Except that it is. I'm about to finish a degree in Information Systems and I've been working in IT for four years. Other than some programming/database modeling that I could learn on my own within a month from a $10 paperback book, absolutely nothing about my schooling has made me better at my job.

Yay college!

That's not really the point today though.

Employers don't give a chit about what you know. All they want is experience and formal documentation of education (a degree). Seeing that you have both, you'll be fine. If you want to advance in your career, a degree is crucial, but doesn't necessarily mean it's going to help you knowledge wise.

[Gongshows]

Currently in kinesiology program at western (1st year student, very little job prospects with a kin degree)

applying to nursing for next year, praying I get in wish me luck brahs

I do have friends that work in Alberta living on camps that make bank, however work is very strenuous 12 hour days and I can't see them doing it the rest of their lives

[xMetalocalypse]

Currently in kinesiology program at western (1st year student, very little job prospects with a kin degree)

applying to nursing for next year, praying I get in wish me luck brahs

I do have friends that work in Alberta living on camps that make bank, however work is very strenuous 12 hour days and I can't see them doing it the rest of their lives

Get a 3.7+ and you'll have a good shot at physical therapy school. Good money and prospects there.

[dunners99]

finance major, ivy league college, 4.0 gpa

wall street.

why is this so hard to understand for miscers?

[xMetalocalypse]

finance major, ivy league college, 4.0 gpa

wall street.

why is this so hard to understand for miscers?

Considering your credentials you must not be a lazy kunt. GJDM, you'll make it.

Srsly all it boils down to is dedication, willpower, and getting your name out there.

[Kuzon]

Srsly all it boils down to is dedication, willpower, and getting your name out there.

if only just saying i will be hard working would make me hard working.