Straps are for pussies

[Vawx]

Finally someone that understand that straps are gayer than gloves. I don't use either, but the point still stands.

[MyBaddBrah]

brah i am such a pussy.

i want to grow muscles and use straps because my grip strength is weaker than the muscle which i am train.

pussy, yeah. and you are the sickest strongman in your gym, what.

your grip should be strong enough to hold your DL 1RM with a double overhand grip. If not youre either too lazy/undisciplined to train your grip, or a pussy.

[KennyPowers123]

Confirmed.

[brbacquiring]

It depends on your goals, I think. If your goal is purely bodybuilding and not real strength

lol @ this still making sense to people. Straps are used routinely by powerlifters, strongmen and oly lifters, for the same reason a bodybuilder would. You can ALWAYS fatigue your hands and forearms before properly working other muscles, no matter who you are. In competition a PLer only has to pull a few singles in the deadlift so his grip isn't going to be as much of a problem as it is when doing his workouts (which, mind blown, do not consist solely of high-% singles) and so straps suddenly become extremely useful, for all kinds of movements.

srsly the straps are bad for "strength" thing makes no sense. They're damn good for strength, that's why anyone who's anyone uses them and doesn't worry about being seen as a pussy by some tough *******s on the misc.

It's a slightly complex idea, so I can understand why some struggle with it. Grip may be very important, but that doesn't mean you have to a) stress it as much as possible at every opportunity or b) allow it bottleneck all your other training.

I think people are also conflating two issues here - using straps to boost a 1RM, which is fine if you want to try it but isn't really very "useful", vs. using straps in volume and rep work, which is an entirely different matter as your grip will ALWAYS fatigue before the rest of you does. Who's the pussy, the guy who uses straps to keep going or the one who stops there and doesn't do what he could have done?
And, even further, using straps in non-competition lifts like rows etc., where you can do whatever the **** you like because you don't compete in it anyway.

I personally value strength as much as good physique, therefore I better deload or do lower weight deadlifts.

wot?

The only thing that's permisable, in my opinion, is chalk. My arms get sweaty after first rep and sometimes bar just slips from my hands on 4-th or 5th rep.

Chalk is a HUGE grip aid, brah. Are you a pussy, brah?

[moju1]

your grip should be strong enough to hold your DL 1RM with a double overhand grip. If not youre either too lazy/undisciplined to train your grip, or a pussy.

And why that if i do bodybuilding?

when i can do 1-3 more reps with straps, instead not, so i use them. (f.e. lat pulldowns)

still doing 400 lbs dl for 5reps. my back doesnt care if i have straps on or not.

[iamtheawesome]

I use straps for heavy shrugs because my grip is fried by the end of my back day.

IDGAF what anyone thinks.

[brbacquiring]

I use straps for heavy shrugs because my grip is fried by the end of my back day.

IDGAF what anyone thinks.

lol m8 if you can shrug more than you can hold onto then you're a pussy who needs to train his grip moar u ****in pussy m8

[bcop]

Deadlift is not a grip exercise.

Incorrect.

So you want to limit your deadlift which is largely a back exercise to how much your puny arms can hold?

If you're gonna train back, train back, why would you restrict your back gains by what your ARMS are limited to.

Because by doing so, your arms, especially your forearms, will get stronger, and your grip will improve.

[econbrah11]

Deadlift is a compound exercice, so it includes working your forearms. That's the point of a compound lift, to work multiple muscles in one lift so I don't get the point of using straps.

[brbacquiring]

Because by doing so, your arms, especially your forearms, will get stronger, and your grip will improve.

oh **** son, I have an amazing idea that no one has ever thought of before! Separate "grip" training from "back" training and improve both of them faster rather than mashing them together and progressing sub-optimally in both.


this changes everything

in before anyone has heard of designated grip work. New invention.

[Kleurplaat]

itt op has no idea how to properly use straps in your training

u on dat dere retard time OP?

oh **** son, I have an amazing idea that no one has ever thought of before! Separate "grip" training from "back" training and improve both of them faster rather than mashing them together and progressing sub-optimally in both.


this changes everything

in before anyone has heard of designated grip work. New invention.

holy chit!!11!

[lucidz]

Your limiting your gains by taking your grip out of it. Sorry.

lol WHAT?

so one small muscle that makes you physically incapable of performing an extra rep or lift an extra amount of weight, shorting out a FULL BODY LIFT is limiting the gains?

[handaid]

i havent used either but i think straps >>> gloves

straps - tool allowing trainee to continue pulling after grip/forearms have given out

gloves - i dont want my baby soft hands to huwt fwum da mean bawbell knuwling

[brbacquiring]

I also lol at pussies who do their squats flat-footed. But who was calf training? Stop being a ****ing queer - lower the weight and get up on your damn toes, or else your calves won't get worked at all.

And don't get me started on incline benching on an actual incline bench. Use a flat bench and do half a situp, then start. Otherwise you will never have any ab development. I lol evertim, so clueless srs.

[lucidz]

oh **** son, I have an amazing idea that no one has ever thought of before! Separate "grip" training from "back" training and improve both of them faster rather than mashing them together and progressing sub-optimally in both.


this changes everything

in before anyone has heard of designated grip work. New invention.

I remember when i discovered grip training.

BRB bro split realized I maxed out on my shrug weight with DB because I couldn't hold on to the weights.

Started doing deadlifts to strengthen grip for the shrugs.

LOL.

Damn I've done some dumb chit.

Anyways, honestly my grip has gotten good from captains of crush for sure. Lots of other ways.

[F5connecting]

imo at least

I feel the same way about gloves, but at least using gloves isn't cheating. If you can deadlift 7 plates with gloves, you can more or less do the same without them.

stupid. I use straps cause I don`t wanna use reverse grip.

If a situation would occur were straps are a no go I would just use reverse grip and get the job done anyways.

and on top of that the guy uses a belt... and chalk... lol

[guacz]

only use them because my forearms are out of proportion, 14inches, grip strength is fine tho.

r u Popeye, brah?

[Protege385]

itt op has no idea how to properly use straps in your training

u on dat dere retard time OP?



holy chit!!11!

Yes I am retard. That's why I don't use straps. You hating on a retard bro?

[HighFivan]

how about no, OP.


no.

[Protege385]

I also lol at pussies who do their squats flat-footed. But who was calf training? Stop being a ****ing queer - lower the weight and get up on your damn toes, or else your calves won't get worked at all.

And don't get me started on incline benching on an actual incline bench. Use a flat bench and do half a situp, then start. Otherwise you will never have any ab development. I lol evertim, so clueless srs.

Are you seriously trying to compare deadlifting correctly with doing other compound lifts incorrectly to make your point? graspingatstrawsbro

[tom11]

Gloves and straps are both on that there pussy time. Unless you're a spineless jellyfish ******* with sensitive skin and delicate hands, in which case carry on.

Are you the guy that was caught frauding? Lmao and you still post.

lol @ this still making sense to people. Straps are used routinely by powerlifters, strongmen and oly lifters, for the same reason a bodybuilder would. You can ALWAYS fatigue your hands and forearms before properly working other muscles, no matter who you are. In competition a PLer only has to pull a few singles in the deadlift so his grip isn't going to be as much of a problem as it is when doing his workouts (which, mind blown, do not consist solely of high-% singles) and so straps suddenly become extremely useful, for all kinds of movements.

srsly the straps are bad for "strength" thing makes no sense. They're damn good for strength, that's why anyone who's anyone uses them and doesn't worry about being seen as a pussy by some tough *******s on the misc.

It's a slightly complex idea, so I can understand why some struggle with it. Grip may be very important, but that doesn't mean you have to a) stress it as much as possible at every opportunity or b) allow it bottleneck all your other training.

I think people are also conflating two issues here - using straps to boost a 1RM, which is fine if you want to try it but isn't really very "useful", vs. using straps in volume and rep work, which is an entirely different matter as your grip will ALWAYS fatigue before the rest of you does. Who's the pussy, the guy who uses straps to keep going or the one who stops there and doesn't do what he could have done?
And, even further, using straps in non-competition lifts like rows etc., where you can do whatever the **** you like because you don't compete in it anyway.





wot?



Chalk is a HUGE grip aid, brah. Are you a pussy, brah?

Usually I don't like your posts but this one was 100% correct.

[iamtheawesome]

lol m8 if you can shrug more than you can hold onto then you're a pussy who needs to train his grip moar u ****in pussy m8

I shrug at the end of back day, my grip gets worked throughout the workout.

I shrug to build my traps.

What sense does it make to sacrifice working the muscle that I'm targeting because my grip may fail due to my forarms getting worked thouroughly already?

[brbacquiring]

Are you seriously trying to compare deadlifting correctly with doing other compound lifts incorrectly to make your point? graspingatstrawsbro

I'm showing how we routinely make lifts as "easy" as possible, in order to go harder at them. The idea of doing squats on your toes is absurd - sure, it would help your calves out but you lose a lot of the benefit to the rest of your body. The solution? Squat properly AND THEN DO SEPARATE CALF TRAINING IF YOU NEED TO.

The analogy is obvious - grip is always the weak link in rep/volume work for pulling movements. Either leave it that way and train your back more poorly than you could, or separate the two factors by using straps (for instance) and, if you want, do extra grip work later. Probably much better stuff, too, rather than knackering your hands holding onto all the other stuff and not being able to hit them with other, more useful moves.

[brbacquiring]

I shrug at the end of back day, my grip gets worked throughout the workout.

I shrug to build my traps.

What sense does it make to sacrifice working the muscle that I'm targeting because my grip may fail due to my forarms getting worked thouroughly already?

lol confirmed pussy here guys, 100%

[moneypowerespec]

imo at least

I feel the same way about gloves, but at least using gloves isn't cheating. If you can deadlift 7 plates with gloves, you can more or less do the same without them.

bro
if deadlifting was easy
it would called "your mother"
*******

[iamtheawesome]

lol confirmed pussy here guys, 100%

so be it.

[stratoo]

try doing oly lifting without straps. clearly you've never done enough pulls to mess up your hands

[SilverSpork]

I just bought some straps to use for rows and stuff, I'd never use them for deadlifts though, I go rawdawg for them shi.ts. So far I'm too stupid to figure out how to properly use them.

[jakobi78]

yea straps are gay...
the strongest deadlifter in the world use straps so he must be a *******

[ltrrtl218]

gloves are ****gy (unless you're ronnie, then you can use them) and so is the pad for the bar when you squat but straps are completely acceptable. I'm not training for forearm strength so straps allow me to lift weight that I couldn't hold otherwise which enables me to properly workout certain muscles like my back, traps, etc.