I've seen a lot of articles and videos on how you want to time carbs around the time when you work out so that it doesn't store as fat, and also you want to eat many small meals a day to keep your metabolism fired up...Is this thinking a load of crap--does it all just come down to calories in/out?
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Thread: Nutrient Timing--is it BS?
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10-27-2013, 08:27 PM #1
Nutrient Timing--is it BS?
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10-27-2013, 10:46 PM #2
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Why are you doing this lol???
In terms of body composition, yea its pretty much bullchit.
In terms of performance in the gym etc....i.e eating a high carb meal a cpl hours before hand can improve performance in individuals who perform better with them in their system.
Other ways it can be of use is for those about to step on stage etc, do a modeling shoot and such, they can manipulate not only the likes of carbs (filling out) but water, sodium as well to stretch the skin out even more.Eat the damn yolk.
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10-28-2013, 02:50 AM #3
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10-28-2013, 05:33 AM #4
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10-28-2013, 08:45 PM #5
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10-28-2013, 08:47 PM #6
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10-28-2013, 08:51 PM #7
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10-29-2013, 05:59 AM #8
The digestion rate of whole food is a lot slower than you think. Of course after consumption their is a increase in blood glucose, but if you consume carbs that aren't gatorade or sugar then I doubt your really using those carbs. This does not mean it can differ between people on how they feel.
"A relatively ‘normal’ whole-food meal is still releasing nutrients (carbs and protein) into the bloodstream as much as 4-5 hours after you eat it."
-Lyle McDonald, Q&A.My Log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=169516313
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10-29-2013, 06:47 AM #9
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It's all a matter of preference, some people train better after having some "gas in the tank", others prefer training fasted. I tried both ways and I personally like to train fasted, with just a cup of coffee. I have more energy training this way. I was never much of a breakfast person, I don't get hungry for a good 4-6 hours after I wake up. Also, I feel groggy and slow after a meal, not the best state to be in when training. My advice to anyone would be to try both methods and see what works for you. Whether there are actual physiological benefits from meal timing? If there were, they were so minute, I certainly didn't notice any.
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10-30-2013, 04:09 AM #10
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10-30-2013, 09:26 AM #11
so how come ronnie coleman and phil heath start their day with a big bowl of oats? Granted they are on AAS but carb intake would still affect their body fat percentage if that were accurate.
Also, when do you eat carbs then? post work out when you aren't moving and then they will be stored as fat as well? It seems like you can't win at this timing game. If you consume them before the workout, you body burns glucose as fuel first, and if consumed after it doesn't burn it at all.
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10-30-2013, 09:29 AM #12
Well what you're describing in reference to your grogginess is a physiological response. So for you it's purely psychological? You just avoid eating in the morning simply because it makes you feel less energetic? Food is supposed to give you energy though, personally, I feel like a champ after having steak and eggs in the morning.
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10-30-2013, 09:34 AM #13
I asked a similar question to this post, but was more specifically referring to IF. The guys agreed that it's all about calorie in/out.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=157535753
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10-30-2013, 10:40 AM #14
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Yes I have heard and read the same.
I think ultimately things will come down to calorie in/out.
Even with IF
But from doing Leangains for almost 3 months.
I do believe, and have a firm belief that nutrient intake is important.
If you read Martin's site, Leangains.com
And do the program as he suggests.....there is something your body is able to do, based on when you take in food or not.
But hey, that is me.
And I accept the fact, that I can be very wrong.....
I have only a test subject of one. That is me.
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10-30-2013, 06:16 PM #15
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10-30-2013, 06:44 PM #16
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10-30-2013, 06:53 PM #17
So I think what I've gotten from this thread is that it's beneficial to consume carbs before weight lifting or any sort of strength training activity, but it you consume them before cardio it doesn't burn fat.
The question that still lingers however is when do you consume carbs if your goal is fat loss and muscle building? Carb inhibit fat burning before cardio, and also store as fat if left unused. Can you consume carbs post cardio?
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10-30-2013, 06:54 PM #18
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10-30-2013, 06:56 PM #19
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10-30-2013, 07:01 PM #20
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10-30-2013, 07:05 PM #21
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Your body can make glycogen off of protein and fats....it doesn't need carbs to do so.
You might find reading the following pretty interesting.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat...e-get-fat.html
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nut...oxidation.html
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10-30-2013, 07:06 PM #22
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10-30-2013, 07:10 PM #24
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10-30-2013, 07:14 PM #27
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10-30-2013, 07:16 PM #28
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10-30-2013, 07:18 PM #29
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This is true....
Like I said, if you don't agree, then disregard....
I was just replying to your question about nutrient timing and giving an example.
I am currently doing LG myself, going on 3 months.
My workout days I do ~3000 - 3200 calories
Rest days are 2000 - 2300 calories.
my TDEE is ~2700....
The pic in my avatar was just taken this pass thursday.
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10-30-2013, 07:19 PM #30
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