Effects of cycling off long term GDA supplementation

[Merial20]

I plan on taking a break off all supps including my slin sane v2 which I have used continuously for ~6 months now. Should I be a bit weary of carb intake in the beginning or is my body's ability to utilize carbs back to wear it was before supplementation ? Talking more in terms if body composition here. Thanks for input and reps!

[aaronuconn]

I wouldn't think so.

[JohnSmeton]

I dont know. insulin mimetics supposed help carbs, be stored into the muscle better, for less fat ,and better for protein syntheses I think? , lower blood sugar levels. I used to take them and my favorite by far is glycobol mainly for na-r-ala it contains, which is a potent antioxidant.

Google alpha lipoic acid on youtube videos and how doctors promote it for anti-oxidant, anti aging, and great health. well na-r-ala is much more powerful than r-ala and ala. check out glycobol http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ai/glycobol.html

[eatyourspinach]

http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/30/9/2240.full In relation to r-ala supplementation but it is extremely rare so you should be fine.

[kissdadookie]

I dont know. insulin mimetics supposed help carbs, be stored into the muscle better, for less fat ,and better for protein syntheses I think? , lower blood sugar levels. I used to take them and my favorite by far is glycobol mainly for na-r-ala it contains, which is a potent antioxidant.

Google alpha lipoic acid on youtube videos and how doctors promote it for anti-oxidant, anti aging, and great health. well na-r-ala is much more powerful than r-ala and ala. check out glycobol http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ai/glycobol.html

They actually help carbs be absorbed into both muscle + fat cells better :P The idea is that with proper training, your muscles hopefully uptake more of the glycogen than the fat cells do. At least that how I understand it since GDA's generally help shuttle the carbs without actual need for insulin/as much insulin. Then there's all the different GDA ingredients with some mimicking insulin, others increasing insulin receptors, some combining both and other things.

[cumminslifter]

They actually help carbs be absorbed into both muscle + fat cells better :P The idea is that with proper training, your muscles hopefully uptake more of the glycogen than the fat cells do. At least that how I understand it since GDA's generally help shuttle the carbs without actual need for insulin/as much insulin. Then there's all the different GDA ingredients with some mimicking insulin, others increasing insulin receptors, some combining both and other things.

this is true^ which is why i dont recommend taking one post workout

[kiawahgolf2]

How does Green Coffee Bean relate to these GDA's if at all? I have been taking it for 3-4 months now and not sure if I need to take a break from it.

[eatyourspinach]

How does Green Coffee Bean relate to these GDA's if at all? I have been taking it for 3-4 months now and not sure if I need to take a break from it.

GCB is an antioxdant not really a GDA.

[lauhpurush]

OP asks a simple question about going off a certain product and a company rep starts pimping the same category of product. Facepalm.jpg

[cumminslifter]

OP asks a simple question about going off a certain product and a company rep starts pimping the same category of product. Facepalm.jpg

ummm where?

edit: did see above post

[gymrat53]

I dont know. insulin mimetics supposed help carbs, be stored into the muscle better, for less fat ,and better for protein syntheses I think? , lower blood sugar levels. I used to take them and my favorite by far is glycobol mainly for na-r-ala it contains, which is a potent antioxidant.

Google alpha lipoic acid on youtube videos and how doctors promote it for anti-oxidant, anti aging, and great health. well na-r-ala is much more powerful than r-ala and ala. check out glycobol http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ai/glycobol.html

I don't understand. You mention that you don't know, that's fine but then why even bother posting. Oh so you could push your companies product, smoove bro.

GCB is an antioxdant not really a GDA.

Yeah it isn't a true GDA per say but it does have blood sugar lowering properties and helps to decrease gluconeogenesis. I would think prolonged use of GCBE would be fine however.

[Merial20]

Thx for the responses so far guys ill have to do a but more researching. Any other input much appreciated!

[Mr.Cooper69]

GCB is an antioxdant not really a GDA.

It's neither. It's a carbohydrate absorption blocker.

[Mr.Cooper69]

I have recently stumbled upon a few myoselective GDAs, and you can expect a product in the near future. Until then, megadose TUDCA for some muscle-selective glucose shuttling:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20522594

[kiawahgolf2]

It's neither. It's a carbohydrate absorption blocker.

This is my reason for taking but I'm pretty sure it's an antioxidant as well.

[Mr.Cooper69]

This is my reason for taking but I'm pretty sure it's an antioxidant as well.

In order to exert physiological relevant antioxidant effects, chlorogenic acid needs to escape the GI lumen, which it does very poorly

[gymrat53]

I have recently stumbled upon a few myoselective GDAs, and you can expect a product in the near future. Until then, megadose TUDCA for some muscle-selective glucose shuttling:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20522594

Haha that is not cheap. Elaborate on mega dose.

[aaronuconn]

Haha that is not cheap. Elaborate on mega dose.

That study used 1,750 mg/day, which is just unfeasible.

[wakingmalice]

strong 2g's a day of tudca lol

[TMac26]

That study used 1,750 mg/day, which is just unfeasible.

I hear my wallet screaming at this very moment.

[gymrat53]

That study used 1,750 mg/day, which is just unfeasible.

haha pass

[jdmoe37]

I've wondered why TUDCA is so expensive, is it complicated to synthesize?

[invain]

Unless you are diabetic or have very low insulin sensitivity, you should not be worried about your bodies ability to 'utilize carbs', especially if you are weight training regularly.

GDA's have their place but most people over use them and have a limited understanding on how they actually work. Certain GDA's work via different mechanisms as well, and using them post workout isn't always the best idea. It's not as simple as just taking glucose disposal agents and then being able to eat a bunch of carbs with all of it being magically shuttled to your muscle cells. Some of you need to stop wasting your money and do some extensive research.