The Hodge Twins on LCD

[mattvdh]

[xJellyBirdx]

Awesome, another video posted by you demonstrating why your learning curve is so painful.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition

Click on the above link. Click on nutrition fundamentals. Start reading. Ignore the Hodge Twins. They are just funny to listen too.

[WonderPug]

Why bother reviewing the vast amount of research on the subject when you can listen to random individuals on Youtube with no foundation or education relevant to the topic at hand?

[mattvdh]

Because THT are walking examples of their knowledge, they were twigs when they were in their 20's. They may not look like it (or act like it haha), but they are both around 40 years old.

[mattvdh]

Awesome, another video posted by you demonstrating why your learning curve is so painful.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition

Click on the above link. Click on nutrition fundamentals. Start reading. Ignore the Hodge Twins. They are just funny to listen too.

"I would mention that changing the macronutrient content of the diet can have a small impact in this regards. For the most part, switching out carbs and fat doesn’t do much despite what many claim."

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat...ts-part-1.html

if you saw these guys walking down the street or in a gym, who would you believe--these guys:


or this guy:


Also, notice how Aragon (a carb eater) dwarfs Mcdonald (a carbaphobe). And Aragon is only about 180lbs I guess, that means Mcdonald is probably closer to 130lbs.

[mattvdh]

Why bother reviewing the vast amount of research on the subject when you can listen to random individuals on Youtube with no foundation or education relevant to the topic at hand?

Because I've done my own N=1 on LCD/Keto and I can relate to what THT are talking about. Your mood sucks, your workouts suck, you loose the glycogen so your muscles look flat.. It's not a good diet plan for an athletic, high energy individual.

[mattvdh]

http://www.evilsugarradio.com/episod...-nadolsky/127/

overview/index

Tell us about yourself.
Tell us about your recent experiment with high-carb, low-fat diet. Why are you doing this and what changes have you seen?
Why do people assign moral codes to diet?
Do low-carb diets push people towards binges and cravings?
Who is low-carb appropriate for?
You recently posted a study that as long as calories are kept consistent, protein vs. carb is largely irrelevant.
Another study you posted showed that diet and exercise is better than either alone. Is there a priority for one or the other?
Do you see any potential problems of high-fat, low-carb diets?
Talk about the paper you wrote for the Alan Aragon Research Review regarding Bulletproof Coffee and changes in lipid levels in your patients.
What about mycotoxins in coffee? Is that really an issue?
What are the actual changes in lipid levels that you see with Bulletproof Coffee or low-carb, high-fat diets more generally? Should people get their cholesterol tested?
What is the deal with carbs and triglycerides?
Are high-carb diets a problem over a long time period?
What is visceral fat and why is it a problem?
What’s up with carb backloading and other macro-cycling or manipulation plans? What’s the bottom line on fat-loss and macronutrients?
You said something recently like “Exercise isn’t good enough; you also have to lower your sedentary time.”
What tips can you offer for when science conflicts with your beliefs?
How did you make the low-carb to high-carb change?
How much is genetics involved vs lifestyle in terms of fat, health risks, etc?
What about genes and cholesterol?
You had a post about treating children that have familial hypercholesterolemia with statins. Are there dangers to that and alternatives?
What can people do to manage cholesterol issues?
What about fruit for diabetes management?
Is sugar evil?
If you could reform or upgrade the fitness industry, what two improvements would you make?

[Lud19]

I really like the hodgetwins and I've been watching their videos everyday.

In regard to low fat\low carb diets, I'm really confused sometimes because isn't weight loss all about calories in vs calories out? why does it matter if most of my calories come from fats or damn carbs as long as I maintain a caloric deficit?

[Gneejack]

Why bother reviewing the vast amount of research on the subject when you can listen to random individuals on Youtube with no foundation or education relevant to the topic at hand?

If they're utilizing what they're preaching and it shows results, why wouldn't anyone be open minded and give them an ear? Just as you shouldn't be close minded to some scrawny professors touting their research, when it comes to health and fitness, you need to be open to new ideas. The scientific community is still discovering new things about how our bodies work and uncovering old arguments as fallacies. It wasn't long ago when science and research backed up the idea that a diet high in fats was the major contributor to weight gain and heart disease. In the end, you have to decide what's best for you and what makes you happy. If "fad" diets works for you and makes you happy, what's it to anyone else? Like the Hodge Twins say, "Do whatever the %$#@ you wanna do!".

[mattvdh]

I really like the hodgetwins and I've been watching their videos everyday.

In regard to low fat\low carb diets, I'm really confused sometimes because isn't weight loss all about calories in vs calories out? why does it matter if most of my calories come from fats or damn carbs as long as I maintain a caloric deficit?

Well you want to eat about a gram of protein per pound of LBM so that when you cut your calories your body doesn't sacrifice muscle. And you need approximately 0.5g's of fat per pound of LBM so that you can absorb fat soluble vitamins and for basic body functions. It's generally recommended that you fill up the rest of your calories with carbs so that you can fill you muscles full of glycogen and provide your muscles and body with energy to maintain athletic performance.

Keto diets are pretty much only good for people with metabolic syndrome or diabetes. If you work out, you'll want to include carbs in your diet. Listen to the radio show I posted, he dispells the current thinking of insulin spiking releasing causing fat gains and diabetes. It may sound common sensical to believe that sort of logic, just as people once thought that the eart was flat, but it doesn't necessarily translate into real world application.

[mattvdh]

If they're utilizing what they're preaching and it shows results, why wouldn't anyone be open minded and give them an ear? Just as you shouldn't be close minded to some scrawny professors touting their research, when it comes to health and fitness, you need to be open to new ideas. The scientific community is still discovering new things about how our bodies work and uncovering old arguments as fallacies. It wasn't long ago when science and research backed up the idea that a diet high in fats was the major contributor to weight gain and heart disease. In the end, you have to decide what's best for you and what makes you happy. If "fad" diets works for you and makes you happy, what's it to anyone else? Like the Hodge Twins say, "Do whatever the %$#@ you wanna do!".

Yeah man, I agree. Wonderpug only seems to respect labcoats. He doesn't seem to want to digest that people in the real world are proving otherwise.

[mattvdh]

[azstrengthcoach]

Those guys are the kings of broscience

[azstrengthcoach]

Well you want to eat about a gram of protein per pound of LBM so that when you cut your calories your body doesn't sacrifice muscle. And you need approximately 0.5g's of fat per pound of LBM so that you can absorb fat soluble vitamins and for basic body functions. It's generally recommended that you fill up the rest of your calories with carbs so that you can fill you muscles full of glycogen and provide your muscles and body with energy to maintain athletic performance.

Keto diets are pretty much only good for people with metabolic syndrome or diabetes. If you work out, you'll want to include carbs in your diet. Listen to the radio show I posted, he dispells the current thinking of insulin spiking releasing causing fat gains and diabetes. It may sound common sensical to believe that sort of logic, just as people once thought that the eart was flat, but it doesn't necessarily translate into real world application.

It's not a myth it's biology

[xJellyBirdx]

Pro tip, azstrengthcoach, don't argue with Matt. Just walk away lol

[WonderPug]

Pro tip, azstrengthcoach, don't argue with Matt. Just walk away lol

Very true. Many of us initially fell for Matt's trolling, but have subsequently learnt our lessons.

[WMLifting]

Wait why were you comparing both Alan and Lyle? Their is obvious differences in bone density, height, age, and genetics.

[xJellyBirdx]

Wait why were you comparing both Alan and Lyle? Their is obvious differences in bone density, height, age, and genetics.

Pro tip, azstrengthcoach, don't argue with Matt. Just walk away lol

Very true. Many of us initially fell for Matt's trolling, but have subsequently learnt our lessons.

Same to you WML

[WMLifting]

Same to you WML

oh he's one of...them

[mattvdh]

Wait why were you comparing both Alan and Lyle? Their is obvious differences in bone density, height, age, and genetics.

Actually I was comparing THT to Lyle, and what you just described as reasons are actually just excuses. Part of me doesn't want to judge someone based on their appearance/size, but it kind of does matter, they are walking examples of their efforts. Very few people are simply blessed with mesomorph body types where they can pack on muscle by eating just about anything and don't gain fat. Most of the population however are combination body types and have to work hard to burn fat and put on muscle. And unless someone is in their 70's, age doesn't matter all that much, and like I said THT are close to 40 which probably isn't too far off from Mcdonald.



lmao

[mattvdh]

Pro tip, azstrengthcoach, don't argue with Matt. Just walk away lol

Very true. Many of us initially fell for Matt's trolling, but have subsequently learnt our lessons.

This is when you know you've defeated someone intellectually. Did you guys bother listening to that podcast that Aragon posted? Yeah I didn't think so, because you're both so obtuse in your thinking that you can't even entertain an opposing view.

[mattvdh]

Those guys are the kings of broscience

You're saying broscience like it's a bad thing. Broscience guys are usually harder working and are able to use intuition rather than falling back on studies to prove their results.

[WMLifting]

Actually I was comparing THT to Lyle, and1. what you just described as reasons are actually just excuses. Part of me doesn't want to judge someone based on their appearance/size, but it 2.kind of does matter, they are walking examples of their efforts. Very few people are simply blessed with3. mesomorph body types where they can pack on muscle by eating just about anything and don't gain fat. Most of the population however are combination body types and have to work hard to burn fat and put on muscle. And unless someone is in their4. 70's, age doesn't matter all that much, and like I said THT are close to 40 which probably isn't too far off from Mcdonald.

1. Excuse? Perhaps. Valid excuse? Perhaps. Everything that I did mention does predict a lot of your muscular potential, though.
2. No. Someone who has 1 leg can put forth twice the effort of Usain Bolt and still not win a race. Are they not walking efforts of their work?
3. ****totypes don't exist. This leads into 1. where I mentioned the various factors of someone genetic predisposition.
4. Oh but it does. I stated ^ some of the variations. Take into account recovery time and hormonal differences as well.

Are you about done saying non sense, proving nothing whatsoever?

[xJellyBirdx]

1. Excuse? Perhaps. Valid excuse? Perhaps. Everything that I did mention does predict a lot of your muscular potential, though.
2. No. Someone who has 1 leg can put forth twice the effort of Usain Bolt and still not win a race. Are they not walking efforts of their work?
3. ****totypes don't exist. This leads into 1. where I mentioned the various factors of someone genetic predisposition.
4. Oh but it does. I stated ^ some of the variations. Take into account recovery time and hormonal differences as well.

Are you about done saying non sense, proving nothing whatsoever?

This is what he does, man. This is why you wont see pug and a lot of people respond to him anymore. You can argue and make all the correct statements you want and he'll still argue with you. He brings you down to his level and then beats you with experience. Just walk away and ignore him.

[mattvdh]

1. Excuse? Perhaps. Valid excuse? Perhaps. Everything that I did mention does predict a lot of your muscular potential, though.
2. No. Someone who has 1 leg can put forth twice the effort of Usain Bolt and still not win a race. Are they not walking efforts of their work?
3. ****totypes don't exist. This leads into 1. where I mentioned the various factors of someone genetic predisposition.
4. Oh but it does. I stated ^ some of the variations. Take into account recovery time and hormonal differences as well.

Are you about done saying non sense, proving nothing whatsoever?

No it doesn't, at all. ****totypes= associating body types with human temperament types, wrong choice of terminology.

haha..why are you comparing someone who's handicapped, what a ridiculous comparison. I do think that genetic potential does play a role, but I don't think it deserves as much attention as people give it. If you don't have a good diet and workout routine, combined with a hard work ethic, your development can only go so far. I see guys all the time that could have awesome physique's if they took care of themselves and worked out, but they don't. McDonald on the other hand is a supposed 'guru' on nutrition and fitness. You'd think someone with such a reputation could build a more muscular physique, at least over 160lbs, come on.

[mattvdh]

and then beats you

That's right son. And why are you replying if you don't care then, you've subscribed. If you made correct statements, which is far from true, I would acknowledge them, however pug and yourself rarely make any. You're both so hung up on this keto fad, I'm just trying to drive some sense into you and it's like I'm speaking Klingon. Keto diets are not a magic bullet diet, they are probably only useful for less than 1% of the population. The majority of people who are remotely active should not consider this diet plan, it's nonsensical, and unhealthy.

[xJellyBirdx]

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[WMLifting]

No it doesn't, at all. ****totypes= associating body types with human temperament types, wrong choice of terminology.

haha..why are you comparing someone who's handicapped, what a ridiculous comparison. I do think that genetic potential does play a role, but I don't think it deserves as much attention as people give it. If you don't have a good diet and workout routine, combined with a hard work ethic, your development can only go so far. I see guys all the time that could have awesome physique's if they took care of themselves and worked out, but they don't. McDonald on the other hand is a supposed 'guru' on nutrition and fitness. You'd think someone with such a reputation could build a more muscular physique, at least over 160lbs, come on.

Then why did you clearly associate ****totypes with bodily figure and build?

Hodge twins are handi capped. They cant do anything that puts stress on their lower back. It still has the same point of personal efforts=/=results.
Since when does knowledge equate to personal results? Again, this ties into the whole thing of knowing what do do, but being incapable of doing so.

Ian McCarthy has far more knowledge than anyone else on youtbe, asides from Jason Blaha. How is his physique?
Lyle is short with small bone density. Do you really think he could be shredded at 160 pounds being +50 years old? No.
Btw. He was lifting kilos. That would 2 reds + smaller equate to nearly twice his bodyweight.

[mattvdh]

Then why did you clearly associate ****totypes with bodily figure and build?

Hodge twins are handi capped. They cant do anything that puts stress on their lower back. It still has the same point of personal efforts=/=results.
Since when does knowledge equate to personal results? Again, this ties into the whole thing of knowing what do do, but being incapable of doing so.

Ian McCarthy has far more knowledge than anyone else on youtbe, asides from Jason Blaha. How is his physique?
Lyle is short with small bone density. Do you really think he could be shredded at 160 pounds being +50 years old? No.
Btw. He was lifting kilos. That would 2 reds + smaller equate to nearly twice his bodyweight.

bahahahhaha!!!! McCarthy and blahahahaha...both of those idiots have chit for brains. Mcdouchebag is particularity brain dead with a fugly skinny fat bod, and a stupid looking head.

[Leadreign]

Perfect example of how posting on bb.com forums gets you attacked by everyone while they look down on you haha. Silly people.