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    A Pre-Workout better than C4?

    What would you recommend? C4 worked for me for a while but recently I'm not getting the same effects. I took a break from it for a month and started back on but that helped only marginally if at all.
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    take a couple weeks off from a pre workout and try neurocre. Real cheap and works good, double scoop gives you a ton of energy
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    I'm not personally a fan of C4. I've been doing 0.5-0.75 scoop of Gameday, 1 scoop Body Octane and 2-3 caps of iForce potassium nitrate.

    Easily the best pre stack I've ever had. Everything you need; energy, focus, endurance, pumps and no crash. Also, with only take 1 or less servings of each it makes it cost effective. GD 45-60 work outs, BO 30 and kno3 40-60 work outs.
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    Originally Posted by mtpaquette View Post
    I'm not personally a fan of C4. I've been doing 0.5-0.75 scoop of Gameday, 1 scoop Body Octane and 2-3 caps of iForce potassium nitrate.

    Easily the best pre stack I've ever had. Everything you need; energy, focus, endurance, pumps and no crash. Also, with only take 1 or less servings of each it makes it cost effective. GD 45-60 work outs, BO 30 and kno3 40-60 work outs.
    Is gameday worth the hype? I'm thinking about trying it and need a real strong pre workout, 2 scoops of neurocore or c4 ( I have both but use them seperately whenever I want the other one ) is pretty good but it leaves me with a small amount of servings
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    You most likely have developed a tolerance.


    Your best bet would be to go on a stim break.
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    Originally Posted by TMac26 View Post
    You most likely have developed a tolerance.


    Your best bet would be to go on a stim break.
    I'm on one right now, I was just looking ahead because I'm almost out of both. I do 2 weeks on 2 weeks off but I'm going 3 straight weeks without any pre workouts or coffee
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    I tried M5 , C4, and their Whey couple years ago, wasn't really impressed or overly concerned bout any of them... They didn't knock my socks off. Cellucore did lower their prices I guess the greedy bastards wanted to stay in business. They have potential, but are weak in the flavoring department and they do have good ingredients, they need to fire the guy who puts the formulas together though. Not real effective stuff. It lacks key ingredients and has a few unessasary ingredients and the dosage of everything is off, they don't know how much of this or how much of that to dose proper like.
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    Originally Posted by ExplodedPumper View Post
    I tried M5 , C4, and their Whey couple years ago, wasn't really impressed or overly concerned bout any of them... They didn't knock my socks off. Cellucore did lower their prices I guess the greedy bastards wanted to stay in business. They have potential, but are weak in the flavoring department and they do have good ingredients, they need to fire the guy who puts the formulas together though. Not real effective stuff. It lacks key ingredients and has a few unessasary ingredients and the dosage of everything is off, they don't know how much of this or how much of that to dose proper like.
    woah woah woah woah woah woah......woahhhhhhh. Flavors are sick, find me peanut butter marshmallow protein, green apple pre workout that tastes like the green jolly rancher, and a pineapple flavored pre workout. But seriously though, I agree with everything you said. Protein is too expensive, c4 is pretty effective but there's better. I like them but could be cheaper
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    Originally Posted by mtpaquette View Post
    I'm not personally a fan of C4. I've been doing 0.5-0.75 scoop of Gameday, 1 scoop Body Octane and 2-3 caps of iForce potassium nitrate.

    Easily the best pre stack I've ever had. Everything you need; energy, focus, endurance, pumps and no crash. Also, with only take 1 or less servings of each it makes it cost effective. GD 45-60 work outs, BO 30 and kno3 40-60 work outs.


    This. Game day is super cost-effective as is Body Octane. Combined you really cannot beat the ingredient profile.
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    woah woah woah woah woah woah......woahhhhhhh. Flavors are sick, find me peanut butter marshmallow protein, green apple pre workout that tastes like the green jolly rancher, and a pineapple flavored pre workout. But seriously though, I agree with everything you said. Protein is too expensive, c4 is pretty effective but there's better. I like them but could be cheaper
    They must have changed the flavoring. I tried Cellucore stuff 2010
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    They must have changed the flavoring. I tried Cellucore stuff 2010
    got ya, they definitely made the stuff taste good, now it just needs to be affordable
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    I'm on one right now, I was just looking ahead because I'm almost out of both. I do 2 weeks on 2 weeks off but I'm going 3 straight weeks without any pre workouts or coffee
    Thanks for the C4 Support, how many scoops were you using during your run? And what did you feel was lacking with c4? Just curious overall. I agree with T on the stim break, if it was working that shows the tolerance build up and the stim break would clear that up and make progress evident again when you cycled it back in.

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    Originally Posted by MikeMadden96 View Post
    got ya, they definitely made the stuff taste good, now it just needs to be affordable
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    If they were not "affordable" they would not sell so well in the grand scheme of things.

    We are always running promo's and making things beyond affordable. Most of the time you can see coupons for 50% off.
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    well i highly recommend AAEFX's kotic. i've used this product now for over 2 years and i love it personally. i've tried a few samples of c4 and it's a great product, but to be honest i needed 2-3 samples to feel the energy i needed for my workout and i had a really bad crash afterwards. maybe it was just me being used to the kotic, but the c4 did provide energy and a good pump but i just needed more of it. for the kotic i've never used more than one scoop.
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    Cellucor has some of the best flavoring I thought, but take a stim break for 3 weeks no coffee or other products with caffine, then give another preworkout a try
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    Originally Posted by MikeMadden96 View Post
    Is gameday worth the hype? I'm thinking about trying it and need a real strong pre workout, 2 scoops of neurocore or c4 ( I have both but use them seperately whenever I want the other one ) is pretty good but it leaves me with a small amount of servings
    There is an 8 serving tub of Gameday available in the store if you're interested in trying it out. Just click on the "Gameday" and it will take you there!!
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    There isn't.

    I honestly believe that C4 is one of the best on the market. It has been my staple since day one. And I've tried quite a few others. SUPERDRIVE, ASSAULT, Speed x^3, Epiq power, just to name a few. None even came close to the energy/pumps I got from C4,let alone the taste!

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    Originally Posted by dshayes95 View Post
    What would you recommend? C4 worked for me for a while but recently I'm not getting the same effects. I took a break from it for a month and started back on but that helped only marginally if at all.
    You definitely wouldn't be disappointed with ErgoPump - especially when you get two tubs for 30$
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    Originally Posted by bobby1k2001 View Post
    Cellucor has some of the best flavoring I thought, but take a stim break for 3 weeks no coffee or other products with caffine, then give another preworkout a try
    Originally Posted by SoFivePointToOh View Post
    I honestly believe that C4 is one of the best on the market. It has been my staple since day one. And I've tried quite a few others. SUPERDRIVE, ASSAULT, Speed x^3, Epiq power, just to name a few. None even came close to the energy/pumps I got from C4,let alone the taste!

    If I had to pick something else to try I'd go with the new White Flood Reborn because controlled labs has got their ducks in a row.
    Thanks guys, we really appreciate the kind words and support, but there is always a pre-workout out there for everyone. Some are hit or miss but glad you enjoy the product! I encourage others to try different things out and see what suits them best.
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