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    Unhappy How do I get shredded in 20 days ,..need to impress girl of my dreams

    I'm in some trouble brahs?

    I really want to impress a girl at a Halloween party on Oct 31st.

    I'm 5'9-182-10% bodyfat


    I NEED to be shredded for Halloween which is 20 days away roughly

    Current diet
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    Carbs-40
    Protein-330

    Zero fat Carb Refeeds every 4 days to increase leptin levels.

    Lifting and 10 mins cardio every day

    I would like to retain muscle but I already have a decent 6 pack but will do whatever it takes to get obliques and seradis by October 31st.

    Advice, tips, input? Please help me
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    What are you planning to wear?

    Anyway, that thing where you consume heaps of water and no carbs 6-3 days out, then mountains of carbs and no hydration for the last 2 days.
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    wow thats alot of protein
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    Originally Posted by SuperManDan8 View Post
    I'm in some trouble brahs?

    I really want to impress a girl at a Halloween party on Oct 31st.

    I'm 5'9-182-10% bodyfat


    I NEED to be shredded for Halloween which is 20 days away roughly

    Current diet
    Cals-2500
    Fat-107
    Carbs-40
    Protein-330

    Zero fat Carb Refeeds every 4 days to increase leptin levels.

    Lifting and 10 mins cardio every day

    I would like to retain muscle but I already have a decent 6 pack but will do whatever it takes to get obliques and seradis by October 31st.

    Advice, tips, input? Please help me
    Well its plain to see why you arent already shreaded at 5 9" and 182lbs. You need to hit the mid 170s. 330 grams of protein. Please tell me thats a mistake right? You will not reach your ripped up look anytime soon with such a surplus of protein in your system.

    Understand this fast. The body will use any excess protein in your body FIRST as an energy source. And your fat stores wont get touched. Its becoming very apparent why so many of you guys are killing yourselfs to get cut with SLOW INFERIOR RESULTS.

    Cut your protein intake down to about 120 grams per day IMMEDIATELY!! And do three intense cardio sessions per week and you will start lowering your BF and getting ripped.

    It will not be no 20 days though 20 weeks maybe. If all this girl cares about is a 6 pack shes not worth your time anyhow. Impress her with your charm and personality. And she will be impressed with the ongoing change in your physique if you take this advice. I am going from 223.5 BF 32% to 165 BF 8% cut in 7-8 months, no lost muscle mass. And I Know what im doing. Alot of people wont do that in over a year. Because they dont understand how a surplus of protein slows down fat loss progress in the body.
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    Originally Posted by sentinel3 View Post
    Well its plain to see why you arent already shreaded at 5 8 and 175lbs. 330 grams of protein. Please tell me thats a mistake right? You will not reach your ripped up look anytime soon with such a surplus of protein in your system.

    Understand this fast. The body will use any excess protein in your body FIRST as an energy source. And your fat stores wont get touched. Its becoming very apparent why so many of you guys are killing yourselfs to get cut with SLOW INFERIOR RESULTS.

    Cut your protein intake down to about 120 grams per day IMMEDIATELY!! And do three intense cardio sessions per week and you will start lowering your BF and getting ripped.

    It will not be no 20 days though 20 weeks maybe. If all this girl cares about is a 6 pack shes not worth your time anyhow. Impress her with your charm and personality. And she will be impressed with the ongoing change in your physique if you take this advice. I am going from 223.5 to 165 cut in 7-8 months. And I Know what im doing. Alot of people wont do that in over a year. Because they dont understand how a surplus of protein slows down fat loss progress in the body.
    What?
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    Originally Posted by matman1813 View Post
    What?
    Yes alot of you guys are wasting so much time its criminal.
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    Originally Posted by sentinel3 View Post
    Yes alot of you guys are wasting so much time its criminal.
    Do you have a source for that info? I've never heard that the body stops releasing fat for fuel during gluconeogenesis of protein. I've heard that happens with alcohol, but never protein.
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    Originally Posted by sentinel3 View Post
    Well its plain to see why you arent already shreaded at 5 9" and 182lbs. You need to hit the mid 170s. 330 grams of protein. Please tell me thats a mistake right? You will not reach your ripped up look anytime soon with such a surplus of protein in your system.

    Understand this fast. The body will use any excess protein in your body FIRST as an energy source. And your fat stores wont get touched. Its becoming very apparent why so many of you guys are killing yourselfs to get cut with SLOW INFERIOR RESULTS.

    Cut your protein intake down to about 120 grams per day IMMEDIATELY!! And do three intense cardio sessions per week and you will start lowering your BF and getting ripped.

    It will not be no 20 days though 20 weeks maybe. If all this girl cares about is a 6 pack shes not worth your time anyhow. Impress her with your charm and personality. And she will be impressed with the ongoing change in your physique if you take this advice. I am going from 223.5 BF 32% to 165 BF 8% cut in 7-8 months, no lost muscle mass. And I Know what im doing. Alot of people wont do that in over a year. Because they dont understand how a surplus of protein slows down fat loss progress in the body.
    wait what?? where did you get this information from?? The body will use any excess protein in your body FIRST as an energy source <<< ?! can you send us a link for these informations and with all do respact but lowering the protein intake to 120lbs while he is 175 is a bad idea.
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    Originally Posted by ImADoer View Post
    wait what?? where did you get this information from?? The body will use any excess protein in your body FIRST as an energy source <<< ?! can you send us a link for these informations and with all do respact but lowering the protein intake to 120lbs while he is 175 is a bad idea.
    I will have to find it. 120 is about perfect in a cutting phase. A normal man needs about 55 grams of protein a day. 120 at 175 is perfect. To maintain and even increase muscle mass.

    Ive made gains NEVER EVER eating more than 120 grams of protein a day. And shifting fat stores at the same time.
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    Originally Posted by sentinel3 View Post
    I will have to find it. 120 is about perfect in a cutting phase. A normal man needs about 55 grams of protein a day. 120 at 175 is perfect. To maintain and even increase muscle mass.

    Ive made gains NEVER EVER eating more than 120 grams of protein a day. And shifting fat stores at the same time.
    were your gains muscle or fat?

    you dont look 192 pounds. i can see why your rep is red >_>

    your pic from exactly one month ago you have an enormous gut and here you are spewing silly information into the forums.
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    Originally Posted by sentinel3 View Post
    I will have to find it. 120 is about perfect in a cutting phase. A normal man needs about 55 grams of protein a day. 120 at 175 is perfect. To maintain and even increase muscle mass.

    Ive made gains NEVER EVER eating more than 120 grams of protein a day. And shifting fat stores at the same time.
    How many calories were you eating? If you have a half decent TDEE you would be bulking at at least 3000, it would be hard to keep protein at 120g at that intake with tag along protein in other foods.
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    Ive never ever bulked. Its a fools game. A pure waste of time. Contrary to the belief you must become a fat bastard to gain muscle mass. I have put inches on my body. Never eating more than around 120 grams of protein a day. And not being afraid of healthy fats too. And moderate complex carbs.

    Lets get something straight. Im not saying the way I do it is the ONLY way to do it. But it works for me, and if what youre doing isnt cutting it. Maybe its time to try another way inderstand?

    Ive seen guys waste YEARS with this bulking cutting crap. And still look like a skinny fat guy.

    Put a heavy weight on a muscle and its going to grow. The nutrition side is where many are getting it wrong. And I tell you something else. Alot of people who think a high protein diet is going to be effective are on something stonger. Thats when excess goes out the window.

    If you want to make go solid gains in muscle mass. Train short and hard. And feed the muscles just enough to grow and repair muscle tissues. And QUALITY muscle will come to rest on your body. Not a little bit of muscle covered by a cloak of fat. That you then have to bust your arse to shift. ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS.

    When I hit my goal weight of 165--170 at 5-8. I am going to show with monthly pics how I will increase muscle mass without becoming fat with this bulking nonsense.

    Its the biggest flaw ever in physical culture history. If you are training hard enough. And eating just enough protein to repair and rebuild broken down tissues. You are going to build quality muscle plain and simple. I will prove that next year.

    Regarding too much protein. Put in

    Www.topendsports and theres an article about excess protein.
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    Originally Posted by sentinel3 View Post
    Ive never ever bulked. Its a fools game. A pure waste of time. Contrary to the belief you must become a fat bastard to gain muscle mass. I have put inches on my body. Never eating more than around 120 grams of protein a day. And not being afraid of healthy fats too. And moderate complex carbs.

    Lets get something straight. Im not saying the way I do it is the ONLY way to do it. But it works for me, and if what youre doing isnt cutting it. Maybe its time to try another way inderstand?

    Ive seen guys waste YEARS with this bulking cutting crap. And still look like a skinny fat guy.

    Put a heavy weight on a muscle and its going to grow. The nutrition side is where many are getting it wrong. And I tell you something else. Alot of people who think a high protein diet is going to be effective are on sonething stonger. Thats when excess goes out the window.

    If you want to make go solid gains in muscle mass. Train short and hard. And feed the muscles just enoughto grow and repair muscle tissues. And QUALITY muscle will come to rest on your body. Not a little bit of muscle covered by a cloak of fat. That you then hage to bust your arse to shift. ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS.

    When I hit my goal weight of 165--170 at 5-8. I am going to show with monthly pics how I will increase muslce mass without becoming fat with this bulking nonsense.

    Its the biggest flaw ever in physical culture history. If you are training hard enough. And eating just enough protein to repair and rebuild broken down tissues. You are going to build quality muscle plain and simple. I will prove that next year.

    Regarding too much protein. Put in

    Www.topendsports and theres an article about excess protein.
    It's pretty evident at this point you have no idea what you are talking about. I could show you a number of successful natural bulks with not much fat gain. One example off the top of my head, just search the username Znik. Nobody said you have to gain tons of fat during a bulk.
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    Listen the proof will be IN THE RESULTS. Some might make it work. It comes down to many factors. BODY TYPE beng a crucial one. This is your ego talking now to admit there could be better way is to say youve been wasting alot of time. And you are not about to do that are you?

    So now you go into defense mode. Very understandable. But im going to prove it with monthly pics. And you will never see the six pack gone. This guy you want to show me. I already know he will be a mesomorph. The ideal body for weight training. So he only has to look at a weight and his muscles will grow. Ive seen it before. All im saying is there is another way less time consuming. You dont have to believe it. It will be shown.
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    Originally Posted by sentinel3 View Post
    Ive never ever bulked. Its a fools game. A pure waste of time. Contrary to the belief you must become a fat bastard to gain muscle mass. I have put inches on my body. Never eating more than around 120 grams of protein a day. And not being afraid of healthy fats too. And moderate complex carbs.

    Lets get something straight. Im not saying the way I do it is the ONLY way to do it. But it works for me, and if what youre doing isnt cutting it. Maybe its time to try another way inderstand?

    Ive seen guys waste YEARS with this bulking cutting crap. And still look like a skinny fat guy.

    Put a heavy weight on a muscle and its going to grow. The nutrition side is where many are getting it wrong. And I tell you something else. Alot of people who think a high protein diet is going to be effective are on something stonger. Thats when excess goes out the window.

    If you want to make go solid gains in muscle mass. Train short and hard. And feed the muscles just enough to grow and repair muscle tissues. And QUALITY muscle will come to rest on your body. Not a little bit of muscle covered by a cloak of fat. That you then have to bust your arse to shift. ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS.

    When I hit my goal weight of 165--170 at 5-8. I am going to show with monthly pics how I will increase muscle mass without becoming fat with this bulking nonsense.

    Its the biggest flaw ever in physical culture history. If you are training hard enough. And eating just enough protein to repair and rebuild broken down tissues. You are going to build quality muscle plain and simple. I will prove that next year.

    Regarding too much protein. Put in

    Www.topendsports and theres an article about excess protein.
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    Hold the phone, booze stops fat metabolism?!
    I've heard it said, I haven't researched it because I don't drink enough to care.
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    Originally Posted by sentinel3 View Post
    Listen the proof will be IN THE RESULTS. Some might make it work. It comes down to many factors. BODY TYPE beng a crucial one. This is your ego talking now to admit there could be better way is to say youve been wasting alot of time. And you are not about to do that are you?

    So now you go into defense mode. Very understandable. But im going to prove it with monthly pics. And you will never see the six pack gone. This guy you want to show me. I already know he will be a mesomorph. The ideal body for weight training. So he only has to look at a weight and his muscles will grow. Ive seen it before. All im saying is there is another way less time consuming. You dont have to believe it. It will be shown.
    I haven't wasted any of my time, in just over a year I'm down from 280lbs. My progress is undeniable at every stage. The whole body types thing is utter nonsense, he was obese, at that point you would have said he was an 'endomorph' and now he's muscular, what? Did his body type change? Want some advice, stop taking your advice from personal trainers, the majority of them have done a 6 week course and know nothing. Listen to the people here who have already achieved far more than you. Those people just want to help, not turn a profit.
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    Originally Posted by Rooster09 View Post
    Eh, oh well. Trying to figure out why I stalled, thought it might be drinking. I count the calories, but didn't know if it had some mystical affect past calories.
    Protein is used to protect the pancreas from alcohol and alcohol also gets stored as glycogen and is turned to fatty acids.

    Just found this out yesterday. I drink too much, probably why I have trouble bulkin and cutting. Staysthesameweight/10.
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    I checked Znik looks very good. But he is 6 3. He isnt that big just defined with a nice balance. I dont take advice from personal trainers. I take advice from experience. Congrats on your progress. But you are/were basically in a fat loss phase. Which is where im at right now.

    The start of next year is when I go for muscle mass. And prove it can be done from the bottom up. Thats all im saying. You can be lean and gain muscle mass.
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    Originally Posted by sentinel3 View Post
    I checked Znik looks very good. But he is 6 3. He isnt that big just defined with a nice balance. I dont take advice from personal trainers. I take advice from experience. Congrats on your progress. But you are/were basically in a fat loss phase. Which is where im at right now.

    The start of next year is when I go for muscle mass. And prove it can be done from the bottom up. Thats all im saying. You can be lean and gain muscle mass.
    He put on like 30-40lbs of muscle, you can't do that without gaining weight. Otherwise known as bulking.
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    Originally Posted by ImADoer View Post
    wait what?? where did you get this information from?? The body will use any excess protein in your body FIRST as an energy source <<< ?! can you send us a link for these informations and with all do respact but lowering the protein intake to 120lbs while he is 175 is a bad idea.
    In on argument. How is lowering protein to that a bad idea?
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    Originally Posted by matman1813 View Post
    He put on like 30-40lbs of muscle, you can't do that without gaining weight. Otherwise known as bulking.
    You can gain a good 25--30 without bulking. And he didnt. At 6 foot 3 his natural bodyweght would already be around 14 stone or 196lbs.

    So he has put on about 20lbs of muscle

    When I started training I weighed around 150 lbs. And in my top shape will be between 168--170 lbs at 5 8". For every inch of height you add about 7--10 lbs of bodyweight. So with Znik being 6 3". He needs to be 216 to be a match to me at 170. To give you the example when I am 170. My arms and chest will still be bigger than his at 6 3".
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    Originally Posted by sentinel3 View Post
    You can gain a good 25--30 without bulking. And he didnt. At 6 foot 3 his natural bodyweght would already be around 14 stone or 196lbs.

    So he has put on about 20lbs of muscle

    When I started training I weighed around 150 lbs. And in my top shape will be between 168--170 lbs at 5 8". For every inch of height you add about 7--10 lbs of bodyweight. So with Znik being 6 3". He needs to be 216 to be a match to me at 170. To give you the example when I am 170. My arms and chest will still be bigger than his at 6 3".
    Everything you have said in this entire thread is nonsense. You are spouting off "facts" left and right with ZERO information to support any of them. No wonder why you're red.
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    Originally Posted by sentinel3 View Post
    You can gain a good 25--30 without bulking. And he didnt. At 6 foot 3 his natural bodyweght would already be around 14 stone or 196lbs.

    So he has put on about 20lbs of muscle

    When I started training I weighed around 150 lbs. And in my top shape will be between 168--170 lbs at 5 8". For every inch of height you add about 7--10 lbs of bodyweight. So with Znik being 6 3". He needs to be 216 to be a match to me at 170. To give you the example when I am 170. My arms and chest will still be bigger than his at 6 3".
    So you can put on 20-30lbs of muscle without gaining a single lb? Please share your secrets, do you reduce bone density and organ size to offset the extra weight? You have no idea what his LBM was to start with. He's just finished a cut, completely glycogen depleted, of course he's going to be light. I feel like I'm conversing with sloth from the goonies here.
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    Originally Posted by sentinel3 View Post
    I will have to find it. 120 is about perfect in a cutting phase. A normal man needs about 55 grams of protein a day. 120 at 175 is perfect. To maintain and even increase muscle mass.

    Ive made gains NEVER EVER eating more than 120 grams of protein a day. And shifting fat stores at the same time.
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    Originally Posted by matman1813 View Post
    So you can put on 20-30lbs of muscle without gaining a single lb? Please share your secrets, do you reduce bone density and organ size to offset the extra weight? You have no idea what his LBM was to start with. He's just finished a cut, completely glycogen depleted, of course he's going to be light. I feel like I'm conversing with sloth from the goonies here.
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