Food That is 100% Fats? (besides oils)

[EpyonCustom]

I want some good tasting foods that are entirely made of fats, so I can easily manipulate my end-of-the-night shake to meet my macros.

I currently use coconut oil, but are there any other options besides other oils? Thanks.

[Mrpb]

Butter is 99% fat.

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/...products/133/2

[InItForFitness]

Why not simply consume meals throughout the day that are more balanced in macronutrients so you're not having to manipulate and try to play catch up at the end of the night?

[beau042]

Pork crackle , add that to your shake, yeah do that.

[Domicron]

the only food that's 100% fat is fat...i mean...that's the definition of 100% fat, right?

this was a test right? did i pass?

[EpyonCustom]

Butter is 99% fat.

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/...products/133/2

Forgot about butter. I hope it goes well in a shake.

Why not simply consume meals throughout the day that are more balanced in macronutrients so you're not having to manipulate and try to play catch up at the end of the night?

It doesn't matter whether my previous meals in the day were balanced or not. It just matters if the macros are different. This approach allows me to quickly meet the rest of my macros no matter what they are.

Do I need 25g of protein, 15g of fat, and 40g of carbs? Easy. One scoop of zero-carb protein powder, a tablespoon of coconut oil, and a couple cups of blueberries.

Do I need 40g of protein, 20g of fat, and 10g of carbs? Easy. 1.5 scoops of zero-carb protein powder, 1.5 tablespoons of coconut oil, and a half-cup of blueberries.

I record my food throughout the day in MyFitnessPal and then see what remains for the shake.

Yeah, I could incorporate something like peanut butter in those examples, but it's more time consuming to fit in things that are comprised of all three macros, and if I'm already at the limit of one of my macros, I can't use peanut butter.

[cls91]

It doesn't matter whether my previous meals in the day were balanced or not. It just matters if the macros are different. This approach allows me to quickly meet the rest of my macros no matter what they are.

Do I need 25g of protein, 15g of fat, and 40g of carbs? Easy. One scoop of zero-carb protein powder, a tablespoon of coconut oil, and a couple cups of blueberries.

Do I need 40g of protein, 20g of fat, and 10g of carbs? Easy. 1.5 scoops of zero-carb protein powder, 1.5 tablespoons of coconut oil, and a half-cup of blueberries.

Yeah, I could incorporate something like peanut butter in those examples, but it's more time consuming to fit in things that are comprised of all three macros, and if I'm already at the limit of one of my macros, I can't use peanut butter.

Once you realize what is wrong with that statement, you'll realize you don't need to use foods that are 100% fat to reach your goal.

[InItForFitness]

Forgot about butter. I hope it goes well in a shake.



It doesn't matter whether my previous meals in the day were balanced or not. It just matters if the macros are different. This approach allows me to quickly meet the rest of my macros no matter what they are.

Do I need 25g of protein, 15g of fat, and 40g of carbs? Easy. One scoop of zero-carb protein powder, a tablespoon of coconut oil, and a couple cups of blueberries.

Do I need 40g of protein, 20g of fat, and 10g of carbs? Easy. 1.5 scoops of zero-carb protein powder, 1.5 tablespoons of coconut oil, and a half-cup of blueberries.

I record my food throughout the day in MyFitnessPal and then see what remains for the shake.

Yeah, I could incorporate something like peanut butter in those examples, but it's more time consuming to fit in things that are comprised of all three macros, and if I'm already at the limit of one of my macros, I can't use peanut butter.

You're completely missing the point of my statement.
You can make life much easier by simply consuming more macronutrient balanced meals throughout the day and not having to worry about supplementing deficiencies at the last moment.
I don't see how you say it's more time consuming to eat balanced meals, when in reality doing so will save you the time/effort at the end of the night having to supplement.

[Domicron]

a macro is a minimum, not an upper limit. you cannot exceed a macro unless the calories are too high

[saw7988]

OP, you shouldn't have 3 individual targets that you're trying to hit 100% accurately. You should have fat and protein minimums.

So for example, in both of YOUR examples, if you just choose a food with 40+ protein and 20+ fat and 0+ carbs, you're fine.

[EpyonCustom]

Once you realize what is wrong with that statement, you'll realize you don't need to use foods that are 100% fat to reach your goal.

a macro is a minimum, not an upper limit. you cannot exceed a macro unless the calories are too high

Macros are a more detailed way of counting calories. If you eat the the macros you set out, you'll be eating the calories you set out. Therefore, going over one macro would require me to have less of another in order to have the same calories.

You're completely missing the point of my statement.
You can make life much easier by simply consuming more macronutrient balanced meals throughout the day and not having to worry about supplementing deficiencies at the last moment.
I don't see how you say it's more time consuming to eat balanced meals, when in reality doing so will save you the time/effort at the end of the night having to supplement.

The meals can be balanced and but they won't always have the same macro breakdown. The remainder will be different every day unless I eat the same meals.

[InItForFitness]

The meals can be balanced and but they won't always have the same macro breakdown. The remainder will be different every day unless I eat the same meals.

I never said they have to include the same macro breakdown. Just a bit of common sense and balancing them though will make life a whole lot easier.

[EpyonCustom]

I never said they have to include the same macro breakdown. Just a bit of common sense and balancing them though will make life a whole lot easier.

It wouldn't change anything though if the macro breakdowns are different. I'd still have to manipulate the shake. And since I have to manipulate the shake, I'm using an approach where my ingredients are all comprised of each macro, so I can manipulate it easily.

[InItForFitness]

It wouldn't change anything though if the macro breakdowns are different. I'd still have to manipulate the shake. And since I have to manipulate the shake, I'm using an approach where my ingredients are all comprised of each macro, so I can manipulate it easily.

It could change things greatly if you applied a bit of logic.
When you're preparing your meal simply think "is this meal lacking in macronutrient content?". If you find that it's short on something, simply bump up the content of the meal. Add a bit of fat to it and save yourself the trouble later in the evening.

I really don't know how to break this down any simpler for you.

[SlickRick187]

You do realize there is no "minimum" for carbs, right OP? I am a bit confused, as it seems like you are making things a lot harder for yourself. For me, I like to try and reach all my fat/protein macros before the end of the night, that way, I can have a pretty awesome snack, as long as I still don't exceed my caloric limit. That's just me though, to each their own I guess

[SkydogGinsberg]

Do I need 25g of protein, 15g of fat, and 40g of carbs? Easy...
Do I need 40g of protein, 20g of fat, and 10g of carbs? Easy...

It's even easier with a sandwich, ham and cheese for example. Simply adjust the rough proportions of ham and cheese for either need. That way, you don't have issues with putting stuff in a shake that isn't really conducive to shakes, like:

Forgot about butter. I hope it goes well in a shake.

(Heavy, full-fat whipping cream would work better, at least from an operational standpoint)

Yeah, I could incorporate something like peanut butter in those examples, but it's more time consuming to fit in things that are comprised of all three macros, and if I'm already at the limit of one of my macros, I can't use peanut butter.

You don't get penalized for exceeding a minimum target. A few extra grams of P/F or C might even move you beyond underweight, to a state of relatively normal size, someday.

One scoop of zero-carb protein powder, ... and a couple cups of blueberries.

¿You're really spending extra money for a boutique "zero carb" powder, just so you can put extra carbs in it?

[EpyonCustom]

You do realize there is no "minimum" for carbs, right OP? I am a bit confused, as it seems like you are making things a lot harder for yourself. For me, I like to try and reach all my fat/protein macros before the end of the night, that way, I can have a pretty awesome snack, as long as I still don't exceed my caloric limit. That's just me though, to each their own I guess

Counting all three macros means you don't have to count calories. I find it simpler personally.

Also, from what I understand, having excess fat might have its problems. For example, dietary fat is more likely to be stored as body fat when in a surplus.

[InItForFitness]

Also, from what I understand, having excess fat might have its problems. For example, dietary fat is more likely to be stored as body fat when in a surplus.

Where have you been researching?

[EpyonCustom]

It's even easier with a sandwich, ham and cheese for example. Simply adjust the rough proportions of ham and cheese for either need. That way, you don't have issues with putting stuff in a shake that aren't really conducive to shakes, like:

Bread, ham, and cheese are all comprised of more than one macro. It's more time consuming to manipulate and figure out where you end up when changing the ingredients.

You don't get penalized for exceeding a minimum target. A few extra grams of P/F or C might even move you beyond underweight, to a state of relatively normal size, someday.

I know I'm skinny. I went on a cut before beginning a slow-bulk, but I'm injured now, so I'm just trying to maintain.

You're really spending extra money for a boutique "zero carb" powder, just so you can put extra carbs in it?

Because it makes the shake easier to manipulate. Yes, the shake might end up being a little weird sometimes, but overall, I have a lot more freedom with this plan and my shakes are easy to make.

[InItForFitness]

Because it makes the shake easier to manipulate. Yes, the shake might end up being a little weird sometimes, but overall, I have a lot more freedom with this plan and my shakes are easy to make.

It appears you're relying on shakes/supplements to meet your nutritional needs, instead of utilizing them for their intended purpose. To aid a proper diet.

[EpyonCustom]

Where have you been researching?

That's according to Leangains. I used that for my cut.

[SlickRick187]

Honestly man, after reading all this, it seems like you are making things a lot harder for yourself. I don't agree with that no-carb protein powder when you are adding carbs to it regardless, its pointless. You said you track everything through MyFitnessPal, so I don't get where your going when you say "it makes things easier to manipulate". Everything you eat is in the app, along with the nutritional data, so you can see how many fats/protein/carbs you have left.

At the end of the day, its about calories in vs calories out, so why aren't you concerned with overall calories? Almost everything we eat is comprised of more than one macro anyways, and it sounds like you are trying to find foods that target one in specific.

Calculate your TDEE. Figure out calories for said TDEE, and then come up with a P/F/C ratio based on this. Easy as that

[SkydogGinsberg]

Bread, ham, and cheese are all comprised of more than one macro. It's more time consuming to manipulate and figure out where you end up when changing the ingredients.

They're all fixed amounts, and besides, you're using MFP anyway: the 2 slices of bread = Xcal, Y(P), Z(F). As does the couple ounces of ham and the ounce of cheese. Math isn't hard, especially when a math assistant (MFP) is doing the math.

I have a lot more freedom with this plan

... by restricting yourself to "single macro" ingredients, like ... "shake butter" (there aren't many) — and having to use a zero-carb powder (for the purpose of adding in more carbs).

[joen270]

Bacon?

[SlickRick187]

... by restricting yourself to "single macro" ingredients, like ... "shake butter" (there aren't many) — and having to use a zero-carb powder (for the purpose of adding in more carbs).

Full of contradictions in OP's posts. What he is doing seems so much more difficult then what the 'norm' is, if you will

[SlickRick187]

Bacon?

no go for OP, its got protein in it too. his plan is all about freedom!

[EpyonCustom]

It appears you're relying on shakes/supplements to meet your nutritional needs, instead of utilizing them for their intended purpose. To aid a proper diet.

If one or two scoops of whey per day allows me to comply with macro-counting in the long-term, then it's worth it.

You said you track everything through MyFitnessPal, so I don't get where your going when you say "it makes things easier to manipulate". Everything you eat is in the app, along with the nutritional data, so you can see how many fats/protein/carbs you have left.

Exactly. I see how many fats/protein/carbs I have left, but the problem is coming up with a different meal every day that meats those macros. My shake idea makes it easy.

At the end of the day, its about calories in vs calories out, so why aren't you concerned with overall calories? Almost everything we eat is comprised of more than one macro anyways, and it sounds like you are trying to find foods that target one in specific.

Calculate your TDEE. Figure out calories for said TDEE, and then come up with a P/F/C ratio based on this. Easy as that

I calculate my TDEE and set my calories, but then I break that up into fats/protein/carbs, and just try to come close to those macros every day.

[MikeK46]

We used to eat Salo sandwiches back in the USSR like it was candy and wash it down with vodka.

[SlickRick187]

The shake idea doesn't make it easy though. You're coming on here asking for something that is "100% fat". Adding anything to your shake that is 100% fat isn't gonna exactly taste good, as you don't have many options. Why aren't you just picking foods throughout the day that include healthy fats?

Red meats, fish, oils, salad dressings, flax seeds, coconut.... The list goes on and on. These foods will also help you reach other macro goals at the same time. It's not really rocket science. I guess I just don't see the whole point of your shake idea, especially when your probably paying more for a no-carb shake then adding in carbs after. That's ridiculous

[Giant_Killer]

I don't see what's wrong with extra virgin coconut oil. If it ain't broke...