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    Post Really tired, hardly any energy to lift.

    I'm eating 50%p/30C/20F at 2000 calories. I am a big guy and I think I have a slow metabolism. About 7 months ago I did 1 round of P90X using those macros, I lost 40 pounds. Now, I am back where I started. I have read the stickies, and I just don't feel comfortable eating that much fat, I am already fat -- I'm also nervous about eating that much carbs and little protein compared to what I am used to. I go to the gym 4-6 times a week, I am about to start Kris Gethins hardcore 12 week workout. Should I do a 40P 40C 20f? Please help.
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    Originally Posted by Austinbruso94 View Post
    I'm eating 50%p/30C/20F at 2000 calories. I am a big guy and I think I have a slow metabolism. About 7 months ago I did 1 round of P90X using those macros, I lost 40 pounds. Now, I am back where I started. I have read the stickies, and I just don't feel comfortable eating that much fat, I am already fat -- I'm also nervous about eating that much carbs and little protein compared to what I am used to. I go to the gym 4-6 times a week, I am about to start Kris Gethins hardcore 12 week workout. Should I do a 40P 40C 20f? Please help.
    Forgot to mention, I don't do cardio, I would rather cut 300 calories which I burn in 45 minutes of moderate intensity cardio.
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    Ratios are pretty much obsolete. Shoot for 0.4gfat per pound of bodyweight and 1g protein per pound of bodyweight. The remaining calories can be used on whatever macros you want. BTW your calories seem extremely low for a big guy. Check out the IIFYM calculator on iifym.com . Your not eating enough hense the no energy. Your body is PISST. FEED IT

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    Originally Posted by brandonbourgoin View Post
    Ratios are pretty much obsolete. Shoot for 0.4gfat per pound of bodyweight and 1g protein per pound of bodyweight. The remaining calories can be used on whatever macros you want. BTW your calories seem extremely low for a big guy. Check out the IIFYM calculator on iifym.com . Your not eating enough hense the no energy. Your body is PISST. FEED IT

    Food = Energy
    Since I am about 30% bodyfat, should I use Lean Body mass for what you said?
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    I recommend minimums of:
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    Fill the remainder of your caloric intake with the macronutrients of your choice.
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    Originally Posted by Austinbruso94 View Post
    Since I am about 30% bodyfat, should I use Lean Body mass for what you said?
    Like the bro above said you could use .8 grams times per pound of bodyweight. I do 1gram per pound minimum just in case but you could do. .8 for good results
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    Originally Posted by brandonbourgoin View Post

    Food = Energy
    ^^^this. It's amazing what some carbs will do for energy levels
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    Originally Posted by Austinbruso94 View Post
    I'm eating 2000 calories. I have a slow metabolism.
    Eating well below your maintenance cals (which you are no doubt doing at your size) for an extended period will slow down your metabolism. It will also rob you of energy. You need to listen to the stickies and calculate your TDEE and eat at a reasonable deficit. Fat does not make you fat, along with other macro nutrients it gives you energy and helps fuel your body to do the things you are trying to accomplish. Just get your grams per day of each, carbs protein fat, and then eat what you want to get to your caloric needs.
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    Originally Posted by Austinbruso94 View Post
    I just don't feel comfortable eating that much fat, I am already fat
    Fat does NOT make you fat, a caloric surplus will do that. If you've read the stickies like you say you have...RE-read them. You are eating too little. Calculate your TDEE, then work with a reasonable deficit.

    ...come back with questions
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    It just depends on what you thrive on. Anything under 300g of carbs a day and I'm a zombie. I prefer higher carb, moderate protein, low-moderate fat. 40/40/20 is very bro and for years was preached as gospel, but that or 50/30/20 is what I feel best eating.

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    Originally Posted by APipeDream View Post
    Fat does NOT make you fat, a caloric surplus will do that. If you've read the stickies like you say you have...RE-read them. You are eating too little. Calculate your TDEE, then work with a reasonable deficit.

    ...come back with questions
    Okay I'll start at 2500 calories and reduce if I don't see changes in weight or body, what's the point of eating higher fats if I prefer high protein moderate carbs and lower fats if calorie intake is what really matters?
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    Dietary fats are essential for:
    - general health
    - joint health
    - hormones
    - test levels
    - libido
    - living

    Again, dietary fat has zero link to your body fat.

    You can go ahead and eat less than the recommended intake, but you'll be shooting your own foot.

    I eat 80-100g easily, but I'm still losing fat.
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    Originally Posted by softpounder View Post
    Dietary fats are essential for:
    - general health
    - joint health
    - hormones
    - test levels
    - libido
    - living

    Again, dietary fat has zero link to your body fat.

    You can go ahead and eat less than the recommended intake, but you'll be shooting your own foot.

    I eat 80-100g easily, but I'm still losing fat.
    I'm going to follow what the stickies say, I did a little more research on dietary fats.
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    This is from iifym. I used the info listed under your avatar. BMR is what you'd burn just sleeping all day and you're going at 400kcals below that. I'd be tired too!
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    I am going to start at 2500 calories a day and lift 5 days a week. I am following the nutrition stickies which came out to 40% Protein, 30% carbs and fat, so I can enter it in myfitnesspal to track macros.
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