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    obamacare= free healthcare for the poor?

    I can't grasp this concept. Everyone is complaining how Obamacare will give free healthcare to Miss Lousy Goosey and her 12 kids. The thing is, don't the american tax payer already pay for Miss Lousy Goosey's healthcare. Obamacare doesn't change a thing in that regard. It just requires her to have health insurance rather than just receive free medical care like she already does. Am I missing something?
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    obamacare???
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    Originally Posted by Matlab View Post
    I can't grasp this concept. Everyone is complaining how Obamacare will give free healthcare to Miss Lousy Goosey and her 12 kids. The thing is, don't the american tax payer already pay for Miss Lousy Goosey's healthcare. Obamacare doesn't change a thing in that regard. It just requires her to have health insurance rather than just receive free medical care like she already does. Am I missing something?
    in the past if a State had a budget issue, they were able to make cuts to Medicare to help meet that budget. Now Medicare must cover everything, and it is now much broader as well, where people who wouldn't qualify for medicare before will now have access.
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    Originally Posted by KingYing View Post
    Only thing poverty around these parts is your thread OP
    Give me them poverty reps than.
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    Basically, you're right OP. Poor people ALREADY get free health care, now we're just making them buy insurance (from private companies). Most of the misc complaining about lazy poor people seem to forget that those same lazy poor people have been given healthcare way before Obamacare by just going to emergency rooms.
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    That's pretty much the line of thinking. But it gets people into the system so they don't treat the ER like a doctor's office and get surgeries that they can't afford or ever pay off. You get subsidies if you earn below a certain wage.
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    Originally Posted by KingYing View Post
    Only thing poverty around these parts is your thread OP




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    Basically...

    Middle Class pays for themselves.

    Middle Class pays for the poor.

    Middle Class pays for the rich.



    Brb quit job, hop on welfare, and live better than a hard working middle class family.
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    Originally Posted by xMetalocalypse View Post
    Basically...

    Middle Class pays for themselves.

    Middle Class pays for the poor.

    Middle Class pays for the rich.



    Brb quit job, hop on welfare, and live better than a hard working middle class family.
    Yah things won't change with or without Obamacare............. Wait no the Rich pay for all 3.
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    The true poor already get free healthcare via Medicaid or your state's equivalent of. Obamacare forces individuals to buy healthcare or face penalties. It's not like Canada's system or the UK's system.

    We are only forced to buy healthcare or our employers are forced to provide us with health insurance or face monetary penalties. Keep in mind that Health insurance is no guarantee of treatment. Read the fine print.
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    the poor get the basics now. that is more than they deserve for not paying squat. this will give them the same cadillac plan as every hard working sucker.
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    Originally Posted by Matlab View Post
    Yah things won't change with or without Obamacare............. Wait no the Rich pay for all 3.
    The rich already control most of the money. Something like 5% of the people control 80% of the money. Merica pew pew pew. You guys are so screwed you are going to have to start a war with China to erase all your debt.
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    Lolol come to canada... Natives get free health care, don't pay taxes on ANYTHING, free university, can hunt, fish etc where ever they want, job position priority, free cab fares and a reeedic amount of money from the government every month and 3/4 of them sit on their asses and get wasted/high...

    and ur complaining b/c a mom working 2 jobs who cant afford to get the care she needs for her and her kids finally can see a doctor..


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    Originally Posted by sLiPkNoT Fan View Post
    The rich already control most of the money. Something like 5% of the people control 80% of the money. Merica pew pew pew. You guys are so screwed you are going to have to start a war with China to erase all your debt.
    oh yea and who owns all the money in Canada?

    lol people love to talk for hours about the wealth inequality of the USA, but forget the fact that wealth inequality has, is and ALWAYS will be the way of the world
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    Originally Posted by yqr306 View Post
    Lolol come to canada... Natives get free health care, don't pay taxes on ANYTHING, free university, can hunt, fish etc where ever they want, job position priority, free cab fares and a reeedic amount of money from the government every month and 3/4 of them sit on their asses and get wasted/high...

    and ur complaining b/c a mom working 2 jobs who cant afford to get the care she needs for her and her kids finally can see a doctor..


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    Originally Posted by Matlab View Post
    I can't grasp this concept. Everyone is complaining how Obamacare will give free healthcare to Miss Lousy Goosey and her 12 kids. The thing is, don't the american tax payer already pay for Miss Lousy Goosey's healthcare. Obamacare doesn't change a thing in that regard. It just requires her to have health insurance rather than just receive free medical care like she already does. Am I missing something?
    Obamacare is changing a LOT about healthcare and how it works. It's more complicated than most can understand who are outside the healthcare world.

    America has a really fragmented and fuked up system right now. Hopefully the ACA will streamline it.

    The goal is lower healthcare costs because right now America pays 2x more than the average country, despite worse outcomes. <---- This is very important. We pay 2x more and have WORSE outcomes. SOMETHING has to change (srs). ACA tries to address the problems we currently face. Its a huge bill that is much more than "LoL leTs GiVE mOneY to PooR people !lOLoLLO"
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    Originally Posted by BoltzmannEq View Post
    The two Natives that I know dropped out of high school, despite having these benefits. So stupid lol.

    Its actually worth mentioning when you know of one with a job/education

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    there is actually a lot of good stuff in the affordable care act. my issue is the individual mandate. it makes this just a giant kickback to insurance companies. also sets up a terrible precedent that congress will without a doubt abuse
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    Originally Posted by yqr306 View Post
    Lolol come to canada... Natives get free health care, don't pay taxes on ANYTHING, free university, can hunt, fish etc where ever they want, job position priority, free cab fares and a reeedic amount of money from the government every month and 3/4 of them sit on their asses and get wasted/high...

    and ur complaining b/c a mom working 2 jobs who cant afford to get the care she needs for her and her kids finally can see a doctor..



    fkin LOL
    that is about .00001% of what the natives of the americas ACTUALLY deserve

    we literally KILLED OFF 99% of their population and straight up stole this land, the least we can do is take care of the rest of them in some way

    imagine if i came into your house right now, killed off everyone except you, forced you to live with me for the rest of your life AND CHARGED YOU RENT lol

    Im not normally the one to sympathize with minorities but if ANYONE deserves it, its the natives
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    Originally Posted by bking10 View Post
    there is actually a lot of good stuff in the affordable care act. my issue is the individual mandate. it makes this just a giant kickback to insurance companies. also sets up a terrible precedent that congress will without a doubt abuse
    Yes, but it takes the burden of the uninsured off society. I say burden because if an uninsured person gets an infection from stepping on a nail., what do we do? Let them die of gangrene. The current situation is we send them to the hospital with no ability to pay. This needs to stop.
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    Originally Posted by cashinout View Post
    that is about .00001% of what the natives of the americas ACTUALLY deserve

    we literally KILLED OFF 99% of their population and straight up stole this land, the least we can do is take care of the rest of them in some way

    imagine if i came into your house right now, killed off everyone except you, forced you to live with me for the rest of your life AND CHARGED YOU RENT lol

    Im not normally the one to sympathize with the lower classes but if ANYONE deserves it, its the natives
    Take care of them= baby them to the point where they can't takecare of themselfs, and they become addicted to drugs? I don't get it.
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    Originally Posted by Matlab View Post
    Take care of them= baby them to the point where they can't takecare of themselfs, and they become addicted to drugs? I don't get it.
    lol pretty sure that only a minority of them are alcoholics and drug addicts, the rest are probably just normal joes

    you'd be a drug addict too if the entire world considered you dead and irrelevant

    YES we should baby them, there is a ridiculously low number of them and we have more than enough money to afford it, so why not
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    Originally Posted by cashinout View Post
    lol pretty sure that only a minority of them are alcoholics and drug addicts, the rest are probably just normal joes

    you'd be a drug addict too if the entire world considered you dead and irrelevant

    YES we should baby them, there is a ridiculously low number of them and we have more than enough money to afford it, so why not
    I hope you enjoy the new HUD programs that will be coming to your town very soon.
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    Originally Posted by Staberella View Post
    I hope you enjoy the new HUD programs that will be coming to your town very soon.
    I dont think many native americans live in public housing, dont they mostly live on reservations (whihc is also phucked up)
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    Originally Posted by cashinout View Post
    I dont think many native americans live in public housing, dont they mostly live on reservations (whihc is also phucked up)
    Native Americans are living on reservations, I am assuming that you live in a very safe and comfy suburb where the chaff lives FAAAAAAR away from you? Guess what? Expect a surprise very soon due to the new HUD programs.

    If you are living on a reservation, you are excluded due to the act of 1978.
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    Originally Posted by Staberella View Post
    Native Americans are living on reservations, I am assuming that you live in a very safe and comfy suburb where the chaff lives FAAAAAAR away from you? Guess what? Expect a surprise very soon due to the new HUD programs.
    you assumed wrong
    i grew up in the ghetto, graduated highschool in the ghetto and still own property in the ghetto

    i know very well the effects of HUD, but what is your alternative?!? mass genocide?
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    No but it makes it so that people that can't afford healthcare are forced to go on fukking welfare or they get fined more money. Because that makes sense. Pisses me off, how many people have opted out of insurance through work or whatever so they could have enough money to pay bills, and now they have to use welfare? I'm sure it's a lot so where is that money gonna come from to support all of those people on welfare? They basically took one pile of ****, and just moved it somewhere else, and the place they moved it was already the biggest, smelliest pile of **** out there. I really don't see how they plan to make this work. I fought to not have to go on that welfare **** because it's a joke, and now I have to. The problem wasn't people not being covered, it was hospitals charging outrageous prices supposedly to make up for the uninsured. All the insurance agents did was speak to the chargemasters and say "hey bud, how about you knock that price down by 70% or so".

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    Originally Posted by cashinout View Post
    you assumed wrong
    i grew up in the ghetto, graduated highschool in the ghetto and still own property in the ghetto

    i know very well the effects of HUD, but what is your alternative?!? mass genocide?
    My bad for ASSuming. No of course I am not calling for genocide, but since you claim you grew up in the ghetto can you tell us what positives it will bring to non ghetto areas? SRS question btw.
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