Kai Greene's progress - 2012 vs 2013 Mr Olympia!

[tkDd]

Here's another quick comparison. Kai Greene in 2012 (left) vs Kai in 2013 (right) at the Mr O. Did he improved? Where do you see him placing this time?


Discuss!



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didn't find a rear lat spread from 2013. Not on MD at least..




once again, sry for the differences in size or scale.






edit: any other request?

[Matzo]

3rd or 4th

[BlackNumero]

clear as night and day. Kai came in worse conditioning.

[Treeling]

Kai's conditions seems to be getting worst and worst. He was damn near perfect at 2009AC or 2010, don't remember.

[DavisForman]

Kai's conditions seems to be getting worst and worst. He was damn near perfect at 2009AC or 2010, don't remember.

No, it's been getting better and better, with the exception of last night. His conditioning was at it's all time worst at the 2010 Olympia. Hooked up with Farah for 2011, and it improved at the 2011 NY Pro and 2011 Olympia. Stuck with Farah again for last year and it was possibly his best ever.

[spamy]

Kai's conditions seems to be getting worst and worst. He was damn near perfect at 2009AC or 2010, don't remember.

At the 2011 NY Pro he had a great mix of size and conditioning

[stealth_swimmer]

No, it's been getting better and better, with the exception of last night. His conditioning was at it's all time worst at the 2010 Olympia. Hooked up with Farah for 2011, and it improved at the 2011 NY Pro and 2011 Olympia. Stuck with Farah again for last year and it was possibly his best ever.

This. Kai simply had the wrong game plan this year and literally did the opposite of what he needed to do, came in bigger but softer.

[Bokula]

Thread title should say Regress not Progress

[DavisForman]

This. Kai simply had the wrong game plan this year and literally did the opposite of what he needed to do, came in bigger but softer.

Well, what he need to do was beat Phil, and he accomplished that. Whether the judges allow that to happen or not remains to be seen.

[BlackNumero]

This. Kai simply had the wrong game plan this year and literally did the opposite of what he needed to do, came in bigger but softer.

Kai needs to learn that he can't try to be the biggest guy on stage. He just can't have that mass and really conditioned.

All he needs to push heath is be like 5-10 pounds bigger than him.

[masthead716]

At the 2011 NY Pro he had a great mix of size and conditioning

This package would have been Mr. Olympia for the past two years.

[anonymous]

Better in 2012 for sure, my statement is not based on the pics.

[DavisForman]

This package would have been Mr. Olympia for the past two years.

Nope. Being Mr. Olympia isn't about being the best man on stage anymore.

[HydroShake]

clearly not as sharp as last year but from the webcast he looked way bigger than phil. it's not like kai's conditioning is totally off.

[majidcg]

kai was a lot better last year !!

[Iceman1981]

A bigger, but less conditioned Kai is not going to beat a less conditioned Phil. Sorry to say it, but it's the truth.

[gilesmiles1]

with the official stills, they all look off including Phil, so this is a duff comparison

pretty sure Kai is virtually the same as last year maybe 5 pounds heavier, and to me Phil's mid section defo looked worse than last year. In other words, why the hell leave him out of the comparison, he wasn't THAT clear a winner if at all

[adrianisgnarly]

Kai looked his best at last year's Olympia. Came in softer this year. You can tell he added a bit more size. But it clearly hurt his conditioning.

[Big_Jewels]

He came in a bit soft, but his condition improved a lot, specially when comparison's were being done, I think those pictures would better show the improvements that he made.

[OMARSCOMING]

Ive read alot people saying that he is biger then Phil but not as conditioned, if he was he would have a great chance at winning.

Can some tell me why he just doesn't get as big as he can for next years O and also nail down his conditioning, enabling him to win? Do they have to sacrifice size for conditioning?


I am uneducated hence why i ask.

[sexnews]

I also wanted very badly for Kai to win, but come on guys, Kai was off and lost. The end.

[Contraction]

Looks to have added a good 5-12 lbs of mass but slightly more water retention...... Sad sad day: (

[djhyeon]

I think to most of us it is quite evident that Kai's just regressed... not just worse conditioning but I see very little (if any?) improvement in the muscles themselves. Shame...

[PEETcassidy]

Triceps and delts are vastly improved. Obviously to help him out in poses like side tricep and most muscular against Phil.

he makes Phil look small. If he can sharpen up tonight we should see a new Mr O.

[Larfleeze]

Nope. Being Mr. Olympia isn't about being the best man on stage anymore.

All about dat der muscletech sponsorship now.

[RichInMuscle]

Needs some guidance, maybe a new guru to point him in the right direction.

[RichInMuscle]

Triceps and delts are vastly improved. Obviously to help him out in poses like side tricep and most muscular against Phil.

he makes Phil look small. If he can sharpen up tonight we should see a new Mr O.

Lol, you new to this?
Phil will win tonight whether he's better or worse.

[BrutasMaximus]

with the official stills, they all look off including Phil, so this is a duff comparison

pretty sure Kai is virtually the same as last year maybe 5 pounds heavier, and to me Phil's mid section defo looked worse than last year. In other words, why the hell leave him out of the comparison, he wasn't THAT clear a winner if at all

Because the comp is rigged and always will be. Most of the top guys should just boycott the Olympia and just do the Arnold, where the judging is a little better perhaps? Be funny if the only person to show up at next years O was Phil. The dude looks good but his front lat spread looks bad IMO and his abs were not there.

I tell ya what if Ramy's body was called Jay Cutler he would have been in the 1st call out. Just because it is his first O he can't place top 6 must be against the rules.

[mbamboocha112]

I tell ya what if Ramy's body was called Jay Cutler he would have been in the 1st call out. Just because it is his first O he can't place top 6 must be against the rules.

Kai placed 4 th at his first O

[KBoss302]

Kai needs to learn that he can't try to be the biggest guy on stage. He just can't have that mass and really conditioned.

All he needs to push heath is be like 5-10 pounds bigger than him.

Yeah, unfortunately, the judges seem to favor Phil's genetic structure over Kai's genetic structure. So, it makes me think that there's not a damn thing Kai can do to beat Phil's genetics.