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    Low or no Caffeine stim pwo

    Now that craze is gone, what is the next best thing?
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    NeuroCore has only 120mg of caffeine per serving. Samples in my sig.
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    Originally Posted by Oldhammer View Post
    Now that craze is gone, what is the next best thing?
    None ---
    MAN BodyOctane
    Iforce Hemavol
    Isatori Morph

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    Cellucor C4 (130 a scoop)
    Neurocore by MT (120 a scoop)
    Scivation Pyscho (100mg or so a scoop)

    Good choices.
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    Not to hijack the thread, but along similar lines, do any of these good ones have no creatine or very low amounts?
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    C4, my one and only PWO and I swear by it!
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    Originally Posted by TrainerTone View Post
    iForce Hemavol
    Hemavol is non-stim? I am looking for stim
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    C4, my one and only PWO and I swear by it!
    The fact that it's sold at costco is very appealing.
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    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...out+comparison

    That should answer questions. Haven't updated in a while though, so I might be missing a few
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    I'm really starting to come around to Push10. Seems to give me an increase in endurance most notably. Some of the research shows acute increases in strength, but I think the endurance effects will be the most noticeable.
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    NeuroCore has only 120mg of caffeine per serving. Samples in my sig.

    I'm enjoying Neurocore, clean energy, good pumps, and no crash
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    Originally Posted by cheese86 View Post
    Not to hijack the thread, but along similar lines, do any of these good ones have no creatine or very low amounts?
    Cellucor Nzero is Creatine Free, give it a look!
    White Flood Reborn from CL is very good too and creatine free

    Originally Posted by SoFivePointToOh View Post
    C4, my one and only PWO and I swear by it!
    Appreciate the support my man!
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    Originally Posted by AMeyer9 View Post
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...out+comparison

    That should answer questions. Haven't updated in a while though, so I might be missing a few
    Very helpful...


    Maniac would suit you perfect. Only contains a moderate amount of caffeine but It will supply you with enough energy/endurance to get the job done... Pm me for free samples.
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    I'm also enjoying prefight quite a bit, seems to be on the lower end of stims (crazy endurance)...bodyforge 2.0 is my goto for nonstimmed.
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    I am currently logging xpedite by snac. It is a low stim no creatine pre. 2 weeks in I have had some pretty decent days in the gym but I am also taking 1.5 to 2 servings per session. Taste is good and it mixes well. You can check the log in my signature for more detailed impressions. There are a couple people logging it in the sponsored log section if you want to get more impressions from various people.

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    neurosurge 2.0 only has 150mg caffiene per scoop. gives me awesome energy, and focus http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ne...rosurge-2.html
    Quick edit: that is 150 mg per 1/2 scoop.

    Other great options are an uncut , controlled labs white flood reborn and Aen presurge . You could dose white flood reborn and presurge at 1/2 a scoop.

    Non stim my favorites are BodyForge 2.0, omega sports ultima , and muscle tech push 10.
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    White Flood Reborn at a half scoop would be an amazing value, go for Watermelon!
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    Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    None ---
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    Small -

    Cellucor C4 (130 a scoop)
    Neurocore by MT (120 a scoop)
    Scivation Pyscho (100mg or so a scoop)

    Good choices.
    For a complete stim-free pre, Body Octane is at the top of the category

    other good ones would be ultima and hemavol though
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    Some pretty nice ideas above... Purple PSYKO IMO
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    NeuroCore has only 120mg of caffeine per serving. Samples in my sig.
    It is also on bogo in the store this week. No better time to try it than now.
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    Originally Posted by mcord11758 View Post
    I am currently logging xpedite by snac. It is a low stim no creatine pre. 2 weeks in I have had some pretty decent days in the gym but I am also taking 1.5 to 2 servings per session. Taste is good and it mixes well. You can check the log in my signature for more detailed impressions. There are a couple people logging it in the sponsored log section if you want to get more impressions from various people.

    I also enjoy bullnox allot but that may be a little more stim heavy while not being over the top.
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    Hemavol is non-stim? I am looking for stim
    Correct, hemavol is NON stim. Although sometimes when trying to go the route you want, buying a non-stim and purchasing your separate favorite stimulants can be a better choice as you can alter your stim intake and truly take in exactly what you enjoy and want. Maybe you only want 100mg caffeine for a minor boost daily but that one day that week you are very tired and now you need more, okay ill pop two and take in 200mg caffeine. Or I want to add a fat burning effect to it so I'll add in yohimbine but I can only tolerate a small amount; etc.

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