Pregnant CrossFit Mom Infuriates Misguided Know-It-Alls On ********

[Cherrybomb2]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...Healthy+Living



cliffs
-woman post picture of herself lifting
-ignorant people condemn her
-woman continues to kick ass

[Songstress31]

Wow, while I probably wouldnt try an overhead squat while pregnant, good for her! If I did crossfit for 2+ years and knew my stuff then maybe I would. I find people who dont workout judge those who do intensely even if we arent pregnant. I have people telling me IM going to hurt myself all the time. Im not surprised the picture received the attention it did and I love her response to the whole thing.

[Cherrybomb2]

Wow, while I probably wouldnt try an overhead squat while pregnant, good for her! If I did crossfit for 2+ years and knew my stuff then maybe I would. I find people who dont workout judge those who do intensely even if we arent pregnant. I have people telling me IM going to hurt myself all the time. Im not surprised the picture received the attention it did and I love her response to the whole thing.

Squatting when you're pregnant in general sounds terrifying! I have a hard enough time balancing myself now.

[Songstress31]

Squatting when you're pregnant in general sounds terrifying! I have a hard enough time balancing myself now.

OMG YES! But this was probably a very comfortable weight for her. Im hoping shes not experimenting with a heavier weight. lol That would be bad

[acrawlingchaos]

Crossfit while pregnant?

Trying to complete highly technical moves while under the clock is a dangerous way to train in the first place. To do so while that far along in a pregnancy is asinine. She put herself and her unborn child at risk for nothing.

She should be ashamed that she couldn't set aside her obsession for the sake of the child's health.

[Songstress31]

People who dont do Crossfit also dont understand these are bumper weights.. They look A LOT bigger than they are.

[DaniGrrl]

Not every workout is done for time, either. Bottom line is that no one knows how she may or may not have modified the workouts due to her pregnancy, or how difficult the weight is for her, based on a few pictures.

[EPolis13]

People who dont do Crossfit also dont understand these are bumper weights.. They look A LOT bigger than they are.

This. Always love these convos, as people who don't do it regularly don't really understand. This woman, as I've seen with many pregnant women who crossfit WELL into their pregnancies, lighten the weights that they use, increase their rest periods, and WORK WITHIN THEIR CAPABILITIES. Those bumper plates weigh 10# each anddn the women's bar is 35#. I can't tell you how many doctors I've spoken to who ALL say it's fine as long as you start out doing it from the onset of your pregnancy. Sheesh.

[Songstress31]

This. Always love these convos, as people who don't do it regularly don't really understand. This woman, as I've seen with many pregnant women who crossfit WELL into their pregnancies, lighten the weights that they use, increase their rest periods, and WORK WITHIN THEIR CAPABILITIES. Those bumper plates weigh 10# each anddn the women's bar is 35#. I can't tell you how many doctors I've spoken to who ALL say it's fine as long as you start out doing it from the onset of your pregnancy. Sheesh.

yes and I really liked this comment under the article

"It is obvious that these people do not know anything about CrossFit. The whole purpose of cross fit is to prepare you for everyday tasks. The centering and posture control and core body strengthening will be of substantial benefit to her. In many countries, women work in the fields right up to the moment of birth. A strong body is a benefit, not a detriment. If these exercises are correctly done, there is no danger to the baby or the mother. "

[sonti]

I've done the same thing in two pregnancies (first and third, second was complicated and no exercise).

I would do it again if I had a fourth! (please, God, no... I'm done).

12 hours with back-to-back unmedicated and 2 hours pushing, there is no chance in hell I could have done that had I not properly trained in my pregnancy which includes, yes, squats. I lifted at around 40-60% in the beginning, down to about 0-30% by the end at 41 weeks (unweighted workouts at 41 weeks).

Believe me, when you've had complications and you are not allowed an epidural for a labour, you'll train for it. LOL. Why would I sit on my ass for nine months and then try and run a marathon?

The marathon was easier...

[sargeek1975]

She should be ashamed that she couldn't set aside her obsession for the sake of the child's health.

This.


I once competed in a team style triathlon; 3 person teams, each doing one of the events. I saw a woman who had to be 8 months pregnant (she was super skinny and her belly was huge) run the run portion. I was shocked and a little disgusted.

I get that being a man who see's a pregnant woman sets off some kind of cave man protection dealy, and that could have been part of it. But the rational part of me was just thinking about what she thought she had to prove? Most people who work out for the right reasons are doing it for themselves. To push themselves further, to gain something personal. What the hell is an 8 month pregnant woman gaining from running that? I just don't get it.




I've never been a fan of CrossFit or TRX; injuries galore. I figured as the years went on the fad would fade, but it seems to be taking over. I don't understand.


This article pretty much sums up exactly what I thought it was:

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"The messed-up part is that injuries in CrossFit are seen as badges of honor, the price of getting righteously ripped, bro. They’re the penalty for not executing movements with perfect form, but I’ve come to believe that having perfect form 100 percent of the time is literally impossible. I’ve probably done hundreds of workouts and let me tell you, not one of them was ever done with completely perfect form.

If you ask a CrossFit coach, the injuries were all my fault. In a culture that drives you to go as hard and fast as possible, it’s difficult not to get caught up in the hype. You’re supposed to push yourself to the limit, but when you hit the limit and pay the price, you’re the idiot who went too far. That double-standard combination of “no guts, no glory” and “know your boundaries” is pretty much why everyone I’ve ever known to do CrossFit will tell you about their best Fran time in the same breath as describing their worst CrossFit injury."






Criticism

According to Dr. Stuart McGill, a professor of spine biomechanics at the University of Waterloo, the risk of injury from some CrossFit exercises outweighs their benefits when they are performed with poor form in timed workouts. He added there are similar risks in other exercise programs but noted that CrossFit's online community enables athletes to follow the program without proper guidance, increasing the risk.[36]

Makimba Mimms, who suffered injuries while performing a CrossFit workout on December 11, 2005, at Manassas World Gym in Manassas, VA under the supervision of an uncertified trainer,[37] claimed that CrossFit poses an elevated risk of rhabdomyolysis. He successfully sued his trainers and was awarded $300,000 in damages.[38]

Articles on many websites criticize CrossFit for its lack of periodization, lack of quality-control accreditation standards for trainers or affiliates, and illogical or random exercise sequences.[27][39][40][41]

Some publications have raised concerns that CrossFit promotes a potentially dangerous atmosphere that encourages people, particularly newcomers to CrossFit, to train past their limits, resulting in injury.[42]

[EPolis13]

This.


I once competed in a team style triathlon; 3 person teams, each doing one of the events. I saw a woman who had to be 8 months pregnant (she was super skinny and her belly was huge) run the run portion. I was shocked and a little disgusted.

I get that being a man who see's a pregnant woman sets off some kind of cave man protection dealy, and that could have been part of it. But the rational part of me was just thinking about what she thought she had to prove? Most people who work out for the right reasons are doing it for themselves. To push themselves further, to gain something personal. What the hell is an 8 month pregnant woman gaining from running that? I just don't get it.




I've never been a fan of CrossFit or TRX; injuries galore. I figured as the years went on the fad would fade, but it seems to be taking over. I don't understand.


This article pretty much sums up exactly what I thought it was:

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"The messed-up part is that injuries in CrossFit are seen as badges of honor, the price of getting righteously ripped, bro. They’re the penalty for not executing movements with perfect form, but I’ve come to believe that having perfect form 100 percent of the time is literally impossible. I’ve probably done hundreds of workouts and let me tell you, not one of them was ever done with completely perfect form.

If you ask a CrossFit coach, the injuries were all my fault. In a culture that drives you to go as hard and fast as possible, it’s difficult not to get caught up in the hype. You’re supposed to push yourself to the limit, but when you hit the limit and pay the price, you’re the idiot who went too far. That double-standard combination of “no guts, no glory” and “know your boundaries” is pretty much why everyone I’ve ever known to do CrossFit will tell you about their best Fran time in the same breath as describing their worst CrossFit injury."






Criticism

According to Dr. Stuart McGill, a professor of spine biomechanics at the University of Waterloo, the risk of injury from some CrossFit exercises outweighs their benefits when they are performed with poor form in timed workouts. He added there are similar risks in other exercise programs but noted that CrossFit's online community enables athletes to follow the program without proper guidance, increasing the risk.[36]

Makimba Mimms, who suffered injuries while performing a CrossFit workout on December 11, 2005, at Manassas World Gym in Manassas, VA under the supervision of an uncertified trainer,[37] claimed that CrossFit poses an elevated risk of rhabdomyolysis. He successfully sued his trainers and was awarded $300,000 in damages.[38]

Articles on many websites criticize CrossFit for its lack of periodization, lack of quality-control accreditation standards for trainers or affiliates, and illogical or random exercise sequences.[27][39][40][41]

Some publications have raised concerns that CrossFit promotes a potentially dangerous atmosphere that encourages people, particularly newcomers to CrossFit, to train past their limits, resulting in injury.[42]

^^ lol at all of this

[DaniGrrl]

I will just say to the men who think this is so awful - you have never been pregnant. You don't know how a woman's body feels while pregnant, or what a pregnant woman feels capable of doing. I was at the gym 4 days before delivering my son, working out at the same level I had prior to becoming pregnant(which admittedly was not very hard at that point in my life but its FINE to continue at whatever level you are). And I was an infertility survivor who needed help getting pregnant, which also made me more nervous than most through the entire pregnancy.

I also had extremely easy labor and deliveries. A complication during my daughters delivery was due to the size of my pelvis in relation to her size, and not the result of my workout habits while pregnant. Until you know what it's like to go through it and know how difficult it is, you can't say any woman is wrong for working out at her level while pregnant.

As someone said, all people see is Crossfit while pregnant and immediately jump to the conclusion she's going for a 1RM max at every 20 minutes on the minute. No one knows what capacity she worked at or how the workouts were modified for her condition. Not every Crossfit gym encourages bad form and dangerous practices.

[Songstress31]

Who knew this would tun into a "knock Crossfit" post lol

I get that being a man who see's a pregnant woman sets off some kind of cave man protection dealy, and that could have been part of it. But the rational part of me was just thinking about what she thought she had to prove?

BTW, not everyone works out to "prove" anything. I know I most certainly dont. I workout to feel and look good and I thoroughly enjoy it. It puts my mind at ease. Much better than a therapist. So a pregnant woman working out is not always looking to prove something.

[tina722]

Agreed with those saying exercising during pregnancy is healthy/beneficial. Found it interesting that only men have disagreed. (??!)

Personally, I appreciated the tone of the article - didn't come off as condemning the woman at all. Wouldn't have expected that from huffington post

[acrawlingchaos]

Who knew this would tun into a "knock Crossfit" post lol

BTW, not everyone works out to "prove" anything. I know I most certainly dont. I workout to feel and look good and I thoroughly enjoy it. It puts my mind at ease. Much better than a therapist. So a pregnant woman working out is not always looking to prove something.

I did not knock cross fit. I stated Crossfit is dangerous, just like other athletic endeavors can be dangerous.

Crossfit is done against the clock, that is the nature of the programming, and yes, I understand the use of bumper plates. Regardless, these are highly technical moves done to exhaustion, timed. It takes one slip of the bar, which is HIGHLY likely w Cross Fit.

The article also mentioned a woman completing a marathon and giving birth hours later. I can't understand how that is even remotely responsible.

Training while pregnant is perfectly safe, but I believe it wise to ere on the side of caution while pregnant and engaging in dangerous activities. YMMV.

[DaniGrrl]

Again, you're assuming she was doing the workouts like everyone else. I'm sure she was using less weight than she was capable of, and not every single workout is timed. I'm sure on the timed workouts, she was not trying to get her best time, or the times were modified to take her pregnancy into account.

[Songstress31]

Again, you're assuming she was doing the workouts like everyone else. I'm sure she was using less weight than she was capable of, and not every single workout is timed. I'm sure on the timed workouts, she was not trying to get her best time, or the times were modified to take her pregnancy into account.

I was going to say this. We dont know that she is participating in timed workout. I would hope she isnt pushing herself to that limit. A slip of the bar can happen a lot easier with the timed workouts and if shes a Crossfit veteran she would know this. We just cant judge what she is and isnt doing from a picture

[revolutionchild]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...Healthy+Living



cliffs
-woman post picture of herself lifting
-ignorant people condemn her
-woman continues to kick ass

that seems risky still, like over head squat, no safety bars? maybe I am just over cautious because I fail often and have bad knees,





but really here I see the pic and I am like prego women squats more than me

[sonti]

So.... has anyone done CF mom?

I have - twice.

Workouts aren't timed.

"Burpees" are "push-ups" against a wall and then a squat.

OH squat at 65lbs max for "advanced" (lifelong athletes) or 15lbs for beginners. Kettlebell swings at 12kg MAX for advanced and 4kg for beginner.

I found it harder dragging my 2 year old grocery shopping and back then doing a proper CF mom workout. At least the workout was controlled, a 45lb toddler being hauled in and out of a shopping cart was more difficult around the stomach.

[sy2502]

I will just say to the men who think this is so awful - you have never been pregnant. You don't know how a woman's body feels while pregnant, or what a pregnant woman feels capable of doing.

This. Funny how the only people criticizing a pregnant woman in here are men. LOL

She is the one and only person who knows her body better than anybody else. She knows what weights are manageable for her at the present state and which aren't. None of us knows it, and every comment or criticism is ignorant, and I mean it in the literal meaning of the word "ignorant", which is "lacking in knowledge".

On the other hand, the negative comments do say much about the poster than they do about the lady in question.

[DaniGrrl]

What Sonti said as well about having to care for another child while pregnant. I am not pregnant at the moment but I'd bet my left eyeball I'd get injured faster trying to deal with one of my 6yo's tantrums than I would doing an overhead squat. The same goes for this woman.

[megdaig]

I can see me getting all kind of ridicule working out when pregnant because dropping my weights by 50% of my typical working weight is still more than most girls lift....

I can't wait to be the 7 months preggers lady squatting a measly single plate...my current warm-up...blasphemy!

[terralfirma]

I will just say to the men who think this is so awful - you have never been pregnant. You don't know how a woman's body feels while pregnant, or what a pregnant woman feels capable of doing. No one knows what capacity she worked at or how the workouts were modified for her condition.

Preach

[sargeek1975]

BTW, not everyone works out to "prove" anything.

I don't believe that's what I said, at all:

Most people who work out for the right reasons are doing it for themselves. To push themselves further, to gain something personal.

If peeps are just going to skim/gloss over what someone takes the time to write/type here, see only what they want to see and then respond.......what's the point?

I just did as much research as I could with the crappy connectivity I have underway here in the Gulf, but I'll tell you it seems like it's split right down the damn middle. And I don't just mean between men and women. There are plenty of women that changed their routines and then eventually stopped do to pregnancy. And there are just as many that continued on.

When I see a pic of a 7 month pregnant woman doing dead lifts with 3 plates..........I find it VERY disturbing.

I guess my confusion here is why there are people here that DON'T find that disturbing?


The injury rate for CrossFit is pretty damn high according to stats, so I can't see why anyone would take any risks like that while pregnant? I get that you may be lifting less, not doing certain things......I get that. There are plenty of women who seemed completely level headed about it, realizing that they had another life inside of them and it wasn't worth the risk.

Yet there were others (and some on here) who are basically saying that they're billy bad-asses because they continued on through their entire pregnancy.



And I'm about to really stir the pot here; is anyone gonna tell me that the threads I'm seeing for miscarriages are wrong? I just read one where a woman had two miscarriages and then decided to stop doing CrossFit during her third pregnancy; and gave birth.


I think the exercises are dangerous to begin with, why do them pregnant? srs question

[sy2502]

I guess my confusion here is why there are people here that DON'T find that disturbing?

- Because she is an adult, mentally competent person with every right to make decisions for herself.
- Because, to continue the above, she is the best person to make decisions for herself, not some nobody online who knows nothing about her (I place myself among the internet nobodies).
- Because pregnancy is not a disease, we have been making babies since the beginning of time. No other animal puts her life on hold while pregnant, we are the only ones who turn pregnant women into disabled individuals.
- Because pregnancy is only one aspect of life, there's other parts to a woman's life than the baby making. So expecting a woman to put everything on hold just because she's pregnant implies she isn't really a person, but just a baby making machine.
- Because none of us knows what kind of weights she used to move before she was pregnant, for all we know she was lifting twice as much and what she lifts now is peanuts (hello Ronnie Coleman) and present no danger for her or her baby.
- She looks like the kind of person that has access to OBGYN care. I tend to think she'd know if her lifting caused her pregnancy any problem and would act accordingly.

Is this enough or do you want me to continue?

[Songstress31]

I don't believe that's what I said, at all:






If peeps are just going to skim/gloss over what someone takes the time to write/type here, see only what they want to see and then respond.......what's the point?

I just did as much research as I could with the crappy connectivity I have underway here in the Gulf, but I'll tell you it seems like it's split right down the damn middle. And I don't just mean between men and women. There are plenty of women that changed their routines and then eventually stopped do to pregnancy. And there are just as many that continued on.

When I see a pic of a 7 month pregnant woman doing dead lifts with 3 plates..........I find it VERY disturbing.

I guess my confusion here is why there are people here that DON'T find that disturbing?


The injury rate for CrossFit is pretty damn high according to stats, so I can't see why anyone would take any risks like that while pregnant? I get that you may be lifting less, not doing certain things......I get that. There are plenty of women who seemed completely level headed about it, realizing that they had another life inside of them and it wasn't worth the risk.

Yet there were others (and some on here) who are basically saying that they're billy bad-asses because they continued on through their entire pregnancy.



And I'm about to really stir the pot here; is anyone gonna tell me that the threads I'm seeing for miscarriages are wrong? I just read one where a woman had two miscarriages and then decided to stop doing CrossFit during her third pregnancy; and gave birth.


I think the exercises are dangerous to begin with, why do them pregnant? srs question

I didnt skim. I read every part and your wording was very confusing. You said the rational part of you was wondering what the pregnant woman had to prove.

[megdaig]

I don't believe that's what I said, at all:






If peeps are just going to skim/gloss over what someone takes the time to write/type here, see only what they want to see and then respond.......what's the point?

I just did as much research as I could with the crappy connectivity I have underway here in the Gulf, but I'll tell you it seems like it's split right down the damn middle. And I don't just mean between men and women. There are plenty of women that changed their routines and then eventually stopped do to pregnancy. And there are just as many that continued on.

When I see a pic of a 7 month pregnant woman doing dead lifts with 3 plates..........I find it VERY disturbing.

I guess my confusion here is why there are people here that DON'T find that disturbing?


The injury rate for CrossFit is pretty damn high according to stats, so I can't see why anyone would take any risks like that while pregnant? I get that you may be lifting less, not doing certain things......I get that. There are plenty of women who seemed completely level headed about it, realizing that they had another life inside of them and it wasn't worth the risk.

Yet there were others (and some on here) who are basically saying that they're billy bad-asses because they continued on through their entire pregnancy.



And I'm about to really stir the pot here; is anyone gonna tell me that the threads I'm seeing for miscarriages are wrong? I just read one where a woman had two miscarriages and then decided to stop doing CrossFit during her third pregnancy; and gave birth.


I think the exercises are dangerous to begin with, why do them pregnant? srs question

Haven't seen any miscarriage threads...at least not in this forum....

But you are throwing out issues that are on a relative basis. Sure not all women can lift a lot, but what would you say to someone whose working sets are 5x8 at say a 225# deadlift? Is it so bad that they reduce that to 100#? I'd say no because it is well within their capability. But what about a woman who deadlifts 3x8 at only 85#? Sure if they're trying to pull 100# while pregger IS not good because it's beyond their demonstrated capability....

What says that you have to stop living life just because you are pregnant? It's almost along the same lines of girls saying they can't lift more than the 30# barbell in the gym when a bag of dog food at the grocery store weighs just as much yet they can manage that?

[superja]

What says that you have to stop living life just because you are pregnant? It's almost along the same lines of girls saying they can't lift more than the 30# barbell in the gym when a bag of dog food at the grocery store weighs just as much yet they can manage that?

This one makes me all of the angry!

The other great one is that celebrity trainer who does **** for cosmo, being all like, "Oh don't ever lift more than 5lbs you'll get bulky!" How much does your purse weigh? How much does babby weigh? Yet you are not already jacked...


I say go for it, crossfit mom. As long as you're not being like "Let's establish new 1RMs every day!!!" I don't see how it could be a problem. She said she's been doing CF for 2 1/2 years, pretty sure she knows her limits.

[sonti]

And I'm about to really stir the pot here; is anyone gonna tell me that the threads I'm seeing for miscarriages are wrong? I just read one where a woman had two miscarriages and then decided to stop doing CrossFit during her third pregnancy; and gave birth.

Do you understand that 1/4 pregnancies will miscarry no matter if you do pullups or sit on your ass? That's just nature.

I've had 3 pregnancies - worked out in 2, both resulting in live wonderful babies. The 3rd pregnancy, which I did not workout in, ended in miscarriage at 3 months. By that logic, not working out causes miscarriage. Hmmmm...

I don't see this woman doing a 3 plate deadlift and quite honestly I have NEVER seen any woman with a bump do it. Can I see a picture?

Did you even read the workouts on CF mom, or are you assuming they are doing the WOD Rx'd?