Future President Ted Cruz: Republicans MUST use fillibuster to defund Obamacare

[BEATINGU]

#StandwithTed

The House passed a bill today that would fund the government while de-funding Obama-care

Harry Reid and the Senate want to add Obama-care funding back to the bill and send it to the House.

Ted Cruz is urging Republican Senators to fillibuster the bill to prevent Democrats from from re-adding Obamacare funding to the budget.

This man is a true patriot and a hero. I'm proud that he will be the next President of the United States of America

Hopefully other Republicans in the Senate stand with Ted.

t the urging of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), House Republicans voted overwhelmingly Friday for a bill that funds the government while de-funding Obamacare.

Now, Cruz is urging his colleagues to filibuster the House bill as soon as it reaches the Senate.

It makes a little more sense than it sounds like.

Cruz argued that a filibuster is necessary to keep Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) from using what he called "procedural gimmicks" to strip language defunding the Affordable Care Act.

"If Reid pursues this plan — if he insists on using a 50-vote threshold to fund Obamacare with a partisan vote of only Democrats — then I hope that every Senate Republican will stand together and oppose cloture on the bill in order to keep the House bill intact and not let Harry Reid add Obamacare funding back in," Cruz said in a statement.

"Now is a time for party unity; Senate Republicans should stand side-by-side with courageous House Republicans."

Cruz's statement will put pressure on moderate Republicans — and the 14 Republicans who have gone on-record as opposing his strategy — to stand with him.

http://www.sfgate.com/technology/bus...To-4830894.php

[tk217]

But he is Canadian.

[LeanGainzz]

what a fuggin kunt that guy is. watch him go down in flames in 3-4 years, and watch all his fellow republicans enjoy the sight.

[BEATINGU]

But he is Canadian.

He's a natural born US-citizen

[StabMastaArson]

The more the left and the GOP establishment try to smear and attack Cruz, the more I like him. Probably the brightest, most consistent conservative elected official we have at the federal level.

[Ancients]

The more the left and the GOP establishment try to smear and attack Cruz, the more I like him. Probably the brightest, most consistent conservative elected official we have at the federal level.

too bad the rest of the GOP morons aren't more like him

then maybe they might actually have a shot at winning the presidency instead of derping on about gays and jesus

Ted 'Canadian' Cruz 2016

But he is Canadian.

rustling jimmies

[tk217]

He's a natural born US-citizen

Born in Calgary Canada.

[BEATINGU]

Born in Calgary Canada.

The Constitution says you must be a natural born US citizen to become a President

It says nothing about being born in a specific geographic location

[righteousreason]

#StandwithTed

The House passed a bill today that would fund the government while de-funding Obama-care

Harry Reid and the Senate want to add Obama-care funding back to the bill and send it to the House.

Ted Cruz is urging Republican Senators to fillibuster the bill to prevent Democrats from from re-adding Obamacare funding to the budget.

This man is a true patriot and a hero. I'm proud that he will be the next President of the United States of America

Hopefully other Republicans in the Senate stand with Ted.



http://www.sfgate.com/technology/bus...To-4830894.php

#StandwithTed

Ted Cruz for President 2016

This man is a true patriot and a hero

[Ancients]

#StandwithTed

Ted Cruz for President 2016

Will drive down to Washington state and fly the flag of Canada the day a Canadian becomes President of the United States

[BEATINGU]

#StandwithTed

Ted Cruz for President 2016

Agreed!

We are going to Cruz to victory in 2016!!!!

I need to find some nice Ted Cruz bumper stickers

[StabMastaArson]

Agreed!

We are going to Cruz to victory in 2016!!!!

I need to find some nice Ted Cruz bumper stickers

http://www.zazzle.com/ted_cruz_speak...31741575731529

http://www.zazzle.com/ted_cruz_2016_...79767354220326

[righteousreason]

Agreed!

We are going to Cruz to victory in 2016!!!!

I need to find some nice Ted Cruz bumper stickers

**** yes. I've never been a bumper sticker guy... but Ted Cruz is the real ****

[righteousreason]

Will drive down to Washington state and fly the flag of Canada the day a Canadian becomes President of the United States

So what is a "natural born" citizen? The Constitution doesn’t specifically say.

In 2008, we reviewed research and polled several legal experts. The consensus was that someone is a "natural born" citizen if they have citizenship at birth and don’t have to go through a naturalization process to become a citizen.

If that’s the definition, then Cruz is a natural born citizen by being born to an American mother and having her citizenship at birth. (This same logic would apply to Obama, even if he were born in another country, which he wasn’t.)

The Congressional Research Service published a report on the issue after the 2008 election; the agency is tasked with providing authoritative research to all members of Congress. It, too, supported the thinking that "natural born" citizenship means citizenship held "at birth."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...run-president/

http://therightscoop.com/mark-levin-...-born-citizen/

http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/26/ye...-be-president/

herp derp.

[righteousreason]

Thread of the year, 2013...

[BEATINGU]

what a fuggin kunt that guy is. watch him go down in flames in 3-4 years, and watch all his fellow republicans enjoy the sight.

[Spartacus777]

#StandwithTed

Ted Cruz for President 2016

I'm pretty sure this was a Rand Paul thing way before Cruz all of a sudden.

I would support Cruz for VP to rand, that's a full package.

inb4 random unwarranted RP hate just because his father is Libertarian and libertarians would disarm the military and send us all to our deaths

[Blindead]

serious question: wouldn't that kind of **** up the entire health care system if the law is in place and there isn't money funding it? are they hoping that democrats would repeal the law if that worked? it seemed like it's a fiasco waiting to happen.

[Ancients]

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...run-president/

http://therightscoop.com/mark-levin-...-born-citizen/

http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/26/ye...-be-president/

herp derp.

not sure if srs
i said if a canadian becomes the president. as far as i know, cruz is a canadian citizen born in canada.

dat reading level

Agreed!

We are going to Cruz to victory in 2016!!!!

I need to find some nice Ted Cruz bumper stickers

good slogan srs. cruz to victory, a lot better than the original maverick LOL

[tk217]

serious question: wouldn't that kind of **** up the entire health care system if the law is in place and there isn't money funding it? are they hoping that democrats would repeal the law if that worked? it seemed like it's a fiasco waiting to happen.

It will basically prevent the IRS from going into small businesses and enforcing the policy if they have no money to do so.

[StabMastaArson]

I'm pretty sure this was a Rand Paul thing way before Cruz all of a sudden.

I would support Cruz for VP to rand, that's a full package.

inb4 random unwarranted RP hate just because his father is Libertarian and libertarians would disarm the military and send us all to our deaths

All due respect to Rand, but Cruz has infinitely greater innate intellect, and is more ideologically consistent. Paul is also supporting the quintessential establishmentarian McConnell in KY over a conservative primary challenger, and is also soft on amnesty:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/rand-...tration-camps/

RP is definitely one of the better Senators, but he's not quite on the level of a guy like Cruz.

[Spartacus777]

All due respect to Rand, but Cruz has infinitely greater innate intellect, and is more ideologically consistent. Paul is also supporting the quintessential establishmentarian McConnell in KY over a conservative primary challenger, and is also soft on amnesty:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/rand-...tration-camps/

RP is definitely one of the better Senators, but he's not quite on the level of a guy like Cruz.

I would like examples of how RP is not "ideologically consistent". You're also assuming amnesty is somehow a bad thing. As he puts it in the article:

“Let’s get them work visas, let’s normalize them, let’s make them taxpayers,” he said of the 11 million undocumented immigrants currently residing within the states.

“They’re not going home,” Paul said, adding that even the most vocal opponents of so-called “amnesty” seem to recognize this fact. “Are they for sending these people home? Do they want us to put them in concentration camps, on buses, and send them back home? I don’t think anyone’s proposing that.”

I don't even really care about immigration, it's in the shadow of much larger battles that need to be fought. Winning these battles mean that we're going to have to toss liberals some kind of bone, amnesty can be one of those bones. RP gets this, he's ideologically sound but he knows concessions have to be made. Do you really hate the idea of amnesty so much that you would rather the liberals not compromise and instead give us nothing?

[righteousreason]

Paul is also supporting the quintessential establishmentarian McConnell in KY over a conservative primary challenger

note sure if srs, but this **** makes me rage like no other.

donated money to McCain's challenger a few years ago, lol. Would have been ****ing awesome to see him voted out of the government entirely after losing the presidential race. unfortunately that didn't happen ...

[PaulG]

Rand is showcased by the left as an ninny. Cruz is showcased as an intellectual, but, a bully.

It will be entertaining because Cruz doesn't even want to be prez, let alone a senator. Anything could happen with him.

[StabMastaArson]

I would like examples of how RP is not "ideologically consistent". You're also assuming amnesty is somehow a bad thing. As he puts it in the article:



I don't even really care about immigration, it's in the shadow of much larger battles that need to be fought. Winning these battles mean that we're going to have to toss liberals some kind of bone, amnesty can be one of those bones. RP gets this, he's ideologically sound but he knows concessions have to be made. Do you really hate the idea of amnesty so much that you would rather the liberals not compromise and instead give us nothing?

The McConnell endorsement is an example of political expediency over ideological consistency.

As for amnesty - if you think adding upwards of 20 million parasites to the dole (all of whom will be voting 'D' in perpetuity, so long as hand-outs are promised and delivered) is a good idea, or is a 'small battle,' then I'll just say I strongly disagree.

note sure if srs, but this **** makes me rage like no other.

donated money to McCain's challenger a few years ago, lol. Would have been ****ing awesome to see him voted out of the government entirely after losing the presidential race. unfortunately that didn't happen ...

Reps on recharge.

JD Hayworth is a good man. If Palin had abstained from endorsing/campaigning for McCain, Hayworth would've won IMO (I really can't begrudge her for doing so, all things considered, but still...)

[m0ridin]

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...run-president/

http://therightscoop.com/mark-levin-...-born-citizen/

http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/26/ye...-be-president/

herp derp.

Does Dershowitz think Cruz should run for president?

“The question is whether he can,” Dershowitz said. “I think he can. I think he’s a natural-born citizen and therefore he’s eligible to run. There will be challenges, perhaps, to his eligibility.”

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/09/de...test-students/

[Spartacus777]

The McConnell endorsement is an example of political expediency over ideological consistency.

I don't know anything about the matter personally, so I will refrain from comment.

As for amnesty - if you think adding upwards of 20 million parasites to the dole (all of whom will be voting 'D' in perpetuity, so long as hand-outs are promised and delivered) is a good idea, or is a 'small battle,' then I'll just say I strongly disagree.

1. Those kinda swooping assumptions and generalizations definitely do not help the GOP win over new people, and it's downright wrong and close minded. Are alot of those people moochers? Hell yes, but so are a bunch of regular non-immigrant Americans anyway, just like alot of those 20 million are also hard workers and would become working tax payers. That kind of narrow minded stereotyping is maddening, as well as logically invalid.

2. Rand is not stupid, and he is extremely vocal against the welfare state and a nanny government in general. A fair exchange politically would be amnesty for the illegal immigrants, while drastically reducing the funding and operations of welfare programs as well as taxes, to boost the economy while creating and freeing up more jobs etc. This is of course complete conjecture but it's not impossible.

3. You cannot possibly be indifferent to the plight of many of those 20 million. My grandparents themselves were dirt poor immigrants from Cuba all our subsequent families are upper middle class. Denying all 20 million citizenship and forcing them to remain at the bottom of the social stack in poverty, just because some might try to take advantage of government assistance is not a phucking viable solution. Focusing on abuse of that system which is already rampant, or restructuring it, are viable solutions.

[BEATINGU]

1. Those kinda swooping assumptions and generalizations definitely do not help the GOP win over new people

Yeah, because giving amnesty to tens of millions of Democrat voters is going to win the GOP voters. Lol?

[TheIronAsylum]

its sad that candidates have to be a certain race or a woman to get votes now due to mass media( talking about both parties)

[StabMastaArson]

I don't know anything about the matter personally, so I will refrain from comment.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/27/ra...-to-mcconnell/

Well McConnell's record is a known commodity, and it sure as hell isn't a conservative record. Here's his primary opponent:

https://mattbevin.com/

1. Those kinda swooping assumptions and generalizations definitely do not help the GOP win over new people, and it's downright wrong and close minded. Are alot of those people moochers? Hell yes, but so are a bunch of regular non-immigrant Americans anyway, just like alot of those 20 million are also hard workers and would become working tax payers. That kind of narrow minded stereotyping is maddening, as well as logically invalid.

The assumptions are accurate. People violating our laws and spitting on our sovereignty in an attempt to siphon the fruits of the labor of the productive citizenry should not be rewarded, period. A very small minority of those 20+ million will go on to be productive taxpayers; the overwhelming majority will be content to live off the dole.

2. Rand is not stupid, and he is extremely vocal against the welfare state and a nanny government in general. A fair exchange politically would be amnesty for the illegal immigrants, while drastically reducing the funding and operations of welfare programs as well as taxes, to boost the economy while creating and freeing up more jobs etc. This is of course complete conjecture but it's not impossible.

LOL good luck with that! Reminds me of Reagan offering amnesty in exchange for securing the border...the left agreed, got their amnesty, and and is still laughing about our naivety to this day.

3. You cannot possibly be indifferent to the plight of many of those 20 million. My grandparents themselves were dirt poor immigrants from Cuba all our subsequent families are upper middle class. Denying all 20 million citizenship and forcing them to remain at the bottom of the social stack in poverty, just because some might try to take advantage of government assistance is not a phucking viable solution. Focusing on abuse of that system which is already rampant, or restructuring it, are viable solutions.

I view people from Cuba (or any country where people are not permitted to emigrate here legally by their government) as a different scenario than, say, people from Mexico (whose people are permitted to come here legally, but choose not to - be it due to cost, difficulty, time, etc). I'd grant asylum (and if they demonstrate themselves to be productive members of society over a period of time, citizenship) to the former, and immediate deportation to their country of origin to the latter.

If you want my sympathy, or for me to appreciate one's 'plight,' then said person should appreciate my country's laws and sovereignty.