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    All routines work as long as you make progression from session to session. The full body routines work faster because you can make progress more frequently due to training more frequently, especially in terms of strength gains.
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    Originally Posted by Kallaghan View Post
    people who use beginner programs look like beginners because they are beginners
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    Can we have a super shredded bro who does full body routines posting here pls.
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    Originally Posted by tekno17 View Post
    Phuck you. been lifting 5 months, did fullbody for 3 and been on a brosplit for 2. Best gains have beeon higher volume. Even though on fullbody strength doubled lol

    I'm shorter than you and a few pounds lighter but I've seen similar results. Full body with linear progression got me through a plateau when I was dicking around.

    However, I've taken to working out every other day (regardless of schedule) with a full body / isolation split. This allows me to push for max on all compounds every time I do compounds, and on isolation day, I work on neglected aesthetic muscles, and supplemental lifts to help compounds.
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    All i got to say in this thread is. There are a lot of reds and morons posting in this thread. Just sayin op, be careful.
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    Idiots.. mostly reds who are like bro fuk that ful body workout.

    Its those *******s who do split routines who don't even do legs who cant even bench heavy and its the only exercise they have a chance in lifting heavy in and then they all jelly when they see asthesthic dude squat 140kg for reps.. which isn't even much and they split bro come over and try do half squats of 180kg you mad bro.. ill fuking wreck you I swear on my mums life.. I don't even do ab exercises I eat like a fat sloot and you can still see my abs.. u mad? u mirin? yeah u madrin
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    This thread just reinforces people's belief that miscers don't lift
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    There is a difference between sarcoplasmic hypertrophy (size, directly related to higher reps, lower weight) vs myofibril hypertrophy (density, strength, related to low reps, high weight)

    Look up the youtube video with Kali Muscle and Elliot Hulse. Elliot's much smaller than Kali but way stronger.

    Beginner routines focus on a strong base. Low reps, high weight. They're not meant to be a bro split with 6 work sets and make you all big and puffy.
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    OP your a dumbass, Fullbody is to get your strength up, that way you dont go to a split and bench 3x10 of 110 lbs for 3 months

    You dont even seem to understand that u wouldnt be where u are right now without the strength program first.
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    martin is natty lol, he did keto for a while and got to like 8% or some chit
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    Originally Posted by couldbeworse View Post
    Can we have a super shredded bro who does full body routines posting here pls.
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    1. Run full body strength routine as is once over
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    Originally Posted by Beerto View Post


    Aus powerlifter. Constantly promoting full body routines.
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    I guess I look like sh!t....Made more progress on ICF 5x5 then on any PHAT/PPL or brosplit...Can't wait to do an intermediate fullbody split.
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    Did a year of full body and about a year of a split routine and by far the full body is more effective. Split only added a little mass to my arms and delts
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    Originally Posted by evansanity View Post
    I guess I look like sh!t....Made more progress on ICF 5x5 then on any PHAT/PPL or brosplit...Can't wait to do an intermediate fullbody split.
    Lol Icf 5x5. Chittiest full body routine out of all of them

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    I only do bro splits. I would only do full body on vacation or something
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    I think it's just more difficult to make progress with a full body. The exercises are more complicated, which also means that since they are eating a lot usually, while learning the forms they will gain just fat since their muscles aren't that stimulated by benching 95 pounds. It is also mentally more difficult to increase weight every workout on exercises like squats. It's just harder so more people fail at it than with a bro split.
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    Originally Posted by Domesho7 View Post
    I workout one muscle group once a week so chest twice within 14 days, am I phucked brah?
    If you're doing a standard bro split it's fine because:

    1) You should be doing a fuq ton of volume

    2) Chest will get hit twice a week (once on chest day, second on arm day [close grip bench , dips, etc] ).


    SS is only 3x5 3 times in 14 days, it's terrible.
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    Originally Posted by couldbeworse View Post
    Can we have a super shredded bro who does full body routines posting here pls.
    None exist, who are natty at least.

    Also lol @ Icecreamfatness.
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    I have experimented with splits and full body workouts, and imo full body is superior in terms of strength gain, while splits are more for advanced lifters to tweak certain bodyparts. This is because splits will have far more isolation exercises, allowing you to focus on a certain muscle, while fullbody should mainly utilize compound exercises. I much prefer the strength gains I get from fullbody workouts, plus training heavy with compound exercises is so much more satisfying then doing crappy lateral raises, tricep kickbacks, ect.
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    Originally Posted by IMakeGoodPosts View Post
    None exist, who are natty at least.

    Also lol @ Icecreamfatness.
    I am very low bodyfat, which could apparently define me as shredded. I train fullbody and much prefer it. I am also definitely natty lol
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    Not everyone that goes to the gym workout for aesthetics you dumb phucks. Ever heard of sports, competition, ufc, and some people caring more about actual strength over looks, etc, etc etc etc etc etc.

    These people are not going to do 10 rep weight lifts, as that doesn't do chit for them. They want little weight and lots of strength.
    Jesus, some of you guys are stupid as phuck.

    brb that 150lbs guy who deadlifts massive will kick that high volume swole looking bodybuilder's ass anyday of the week, and urmad coz he doesn't look as good. Gtfo.
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    Originally Posted by lucidz View Post
    There is a difference between sarcoplasmic hypertrophy (size, directly related to higher reps, lower weight) vs myofibril hypertrophy (density, strength, related to low reps, high weight)

    Look up the youtube video with Kali Muscle and Elliot Hulse. Elliot's much smaller than Kali but way stronger.

    Beginner routines focus on a strong base. Low reps, high weight. They're not meant to be a bro split with 6 work sets and make you all big and puffy.
    Very informative post, I didnt know about the different forms of hypertrophy before I read this. Will do some research on google
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    They are the same people that keep changing routines and hence why they look chit. Beginners have to be patient and milk out those gains. No one is going to be a beginner forever... Really no one shouldn't worry about 5/3/1, PHAT, Upper/Lower or P/P/L at all.

    My rule of thumb is looking for ways to make more gains effective and efficiently with minimal effort (to avoid injuries). SS and 5x5 works around low volume and high intensity (e.g. weight, load, ...,etc) but they can give the benefactor of building good foundation for natty lifters...

    Every now and than you will see a few Natural Pro bodybuilders on strength training and powerlifting routines. People might ask why? Well try to take this analogy, lets say that hypertrophy is 'water' and strength is 'cup' to start building the foundation we place a cup and we pour water in the cup and the cup gets full and the water starts spilling meaning that you've plauted and what do you do next? Well you gotta start with a new cup again which means that you have to go back to the basics and do strength training to form that new foundation and pour more water into that cup and so forth. Nom wat im saiyan?

    My physique is a by-product of full-body training (Starting Strength and Madcow 5x5), I've did a bro-split personally for a month and it's okay for people to work around their injuries but now I'm currently on 5/3/1 (P.H.U.L = Power Hypertrophy Upper Lower) . You can achieve aesthetics if your diet is on point and I mean look at lightweight powerlifters. The core and posterior chain development is insane with many powerlifters (A lot of Natural Pro Bodybuilder posterior chains lack and that too is the factor why Natty pro's do powerlifting routines).
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    umad I will do 8 sets of 4-5 reps of heavy weight as opposed to your poverty light weight 3x10?
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