Lets get something clear about TNA

[PatrickWayne96]

TNA is the No1 wrestling show in Germany, broke the rating record for wrestling twice in a row.

TNA in Japan on Nippon Television Network, got 49.5 million viewers on 8/17/13, that's more than WWE, NJPW, AJPW, NOAH all put together. Since Rampage joined the numbers have not been dissimilar.

TNA gets roughly 50,000,000 viewers in India and 10,000,000 in South Africa.

Across Europe TNA kills WWE. In practically every non North American country that both TNA and WWE are show TNA dominates by a large margin and is usually on a better channel because of this.


Point is, TNA isn't going out of business anytime soon lmao. Stephanie McMahon has sold most of her shares in WWE, is WWE going out of business?

[D-Wade7288]

Great points. I don't think its the viewership completely around the world.

I think their problem lies on PPV buys, Merchandise, Ticket Sales etc. They are making tons of cuts which for any company is great. But they are making cuts a bit more frequently than most companies. I think the reason people think they are going out of business is it almost seems like these cuts are coming from PANIC mode.

[Oztralian]

they should be the international WWE then

have american storylines but go to foreign countries so the arenas get packed

[PatrickWayne96]

Great points. I don't think its the viewership completely around the world.

I think their problem lies on PPV buys, Merchandise, Ticket Sales etc. They are making tons of cuts which for any company is great. But they are making cuts a bit more frequently than most companies. I think the reason people think they are going out of business is it almost seems like these cuts are coming from PANIC mode.

They only really did the cuts to get rid of unnecessary costs. RVD was Pritchard's fault, he was too lazy to even check when contracts were up most of the time.

[PatrickWayne96]

they should be the international WWE then

have american storylines but go to foreign countries so the arenas get packed

The arenas are packed. Don't let the pics of the arena before the show has even started fool you. Plus DAI pays for all live events.

[D-Wade7288]

They only really did the cuts to get rid of unnecessary costs. RVD was Pritchard's fault, he was too lazy to even check when contracts were up most of the time.

Good point. I think I was just trying to say that the elimination of those costs are what is making people freak out. Cuts in any company would make people jump to that conclusion I suppose.

[Murph0408]

sounds like TNA should head overseas and stay over there. this way they can have their supposed tens of millions of viewers over there, and i don't have to have their crap on my TV over here

[War Machine]

One problem...

TNA is big in Europe....

TNA canceled their annual European tour

[Murph0408]

One problem...

TNA is big in Europe....

TNA canceled their annual European tour

right and who said they get all these tens of millions of viewers? is OP quoting hogan? hogan is the GOAT but let's not quote him like he states 100% facts

[PatrickWayne96]

Look at it this way, Dixie herself is talking about how much money they are losing. They are fortunate their owner is an energy company that charges the bejesus out of its customers.

Ooh not even close to red dummy. When did she? You're too poor for it I guess.

They've never been struggling, their issue has been going to the next level which Dixie isn't able to do with guys like Snow in her ear. Expect changes after BFG in terms of who gets pushed and returning faces.

[PatrickWayne96]

One problem...

TNA is big in Europe....

TNA canceled their annual European tour

When was this? Still advertising European dates dummy.

[PatrickWayne96]

Also, who do you think bought Stephanie's stock? Vince's share went up. I am going to be honest with you guys. Stephanie has a family.
She has a lot of expenses and that stock cash in is just a comfort zone. Everyone knows Mr. McMahon owns majority share and ironically when Stephanie "sold" her shares, Vince's shares went up.

Care to explain this? http://seekingalpha.com/article/1664...ce=google_news

[hundieMachine]

Pisses me off some people are still talking about Panda Energy like it's phucking Duke Energy or General Electric. Yeah, they have a lot in assets, for example a 300 million dollar power plant, but that doesn't mean the god damn plant is generating that much every year, or even every 10 years. I've read in several places that Panda Energy profited just 28 million in 2008, yet TNA fanbois will claim it's worth 4 billion dollars and could buy WWE in a heart beat if it was so inclined.

Why is this relevant? Because it shows that TNA doesn't have the financial backing to continue putting on $700,000 that earn them $100,000.

Give it a year and they'll be just another chitty territory led by a 40 something cougar who I would gladly make love to.

https://connect.data.com/company/vie...-international

[War Machine]

When was this? Still advertising European dates dummy.

No need to to call names. Are you in the third grade.

As it is, I looked it up and read it wrong...they were talking about canceling tour dates stateside and making a central studio again. In the article it mention the UK tour...but it said they would decide on a home arena after the UK tour.

I read wrong. :shrug:

[SageKing]

OP just posted a bunch of numbers without any facts behind them, I have provided the true story behind yhese before and it will be a pain to post them all again, but certain ratings are taken from comparisons of when TNA is aired in primetime on a free channel, compared to when WWE is aired live at 2:00 in the morning, and does not equate thr ratings for the reruns of RAW at better times throughout the week which actually pull in more numbers than TNA.

Arenas are also never full during a TNA event, ask anyone who has actually went. Thry always give away free tickets and still cant fill the house.

[daysoftheweek]

i came here expecting op to mention ****philes

[IsaacBankman]

Pisses me off some people are still talking about Panda Energy like it's phucking Duke Energy or General Electric. Yeah, they have a lot in assets, for example a 300 million dollar power plant, but that doesn't mean the god damn plant is generating that much every year, or even every 10 years. I've read in several places that Panda Energy profited just 28 million in 2008, yet TNA fanbois will claim it's worth 4 billion dollars and could buy WWE in a heart beat if it was so inclined.

Why is this relevant? Because it shows that TNA doesn't have the financial backing to continue putting on $700,000 that earn them $100,000.

Give it a year and they'll be just another chitty territory led by a 40 something cougar who I would gladly make love to.

https://connect.data.com/company/vie...-international

A year? They've been around for like 10 years after each year people saying "give them a year & they'll be bankrupt."

[pgg3hfxb]

but total divas has higher ratings than tna

[IsaacBankman]

OP just posted a bunch of numbers without any facts behind them, I have provided the true story behind yhese before and it will be a pain to post them all again, but certain ratings are taken from comparisons of when TNA is aired in primetime on a free channel, compared to when WWE is aired live at 2:00 in the morning, and does not equate thr ratings for the reruns of RAW at better times throughout the week which actually pull in more numbers than TNA.

Arenas are also never full during a TNA event, ask anyone who has actually went. Thry always give away free tickets and still cant fill the house.

Free tickets arent hard to give away in Orlando Florida. People love that $hit! I think it needs to stay at Universal Studios but they need to make the arena bigger.

[kneeonbelly]

the best thing tna can do is let hogan leave and finish his years in wwe. The only one that can control hogan and manage him correctly is Vince M. Release him , take his salary and give it back to tna which is good for businessss (no triple h)

[B33f]

TNA is the No1 wrestling show in Germany, broke the rating record for wrestling twice in a row.

TNA in Japan on Nippon Television Network, got 49.5 million viewers on 8/17/13, that's more than WWE, NJPW, AJPW, NOAH all put together. Since Rampage joined the numbers have not been dissimilar.

TNA gets roughly 50,000,000 viewers in India and 10,000,000 in South Africa.

Across Europe TNA kills WWE. In practically every non North American country that both TNA and WWE are show TNA dominates by a large margin and is usually on a better channel because of this.


Point is, TNA isn't going out of business anytime soon lmao. Stephanie McMahon has sold most of her shares in WWE, is WWE going out of business?

Wtf are those numbers? Is this real life? TNA guys/girls are megastars? :O

[kneeonbelly]

why doesnt tna film in europe full time since the market is so hot there and just leave the states all together? fuk it what would it hurt?

[ASIAN NIGHTMARE]

why doesnt tna film in europe full time since the market is so hot there and just leave the states all together? fuk it what would it hurt?

cost of transporting all their talent every week since most of the roster is American

[SageKing]

Wtf are those numbers? Is this real life? TNA guys/girls are megastars? :O

The numbers are skewed / bs.

The number listed for Nippon television is almost half of Japan`s population...Lol.

To break it down as an undeniable lie:

Est. population of Japan: 127.6 million.
B.S. reported ratings: 49.5 million
Avg. number of people per household in Japan: 2.55
127.6 divided by 19.5: 2.57...

That means pretty much every single household in Japan would have to be watching TNA (lol), which would mean every household would have to have a t.v. (they don`t, numbers are declining), pretty much nobody could be at work or school, the aging population (senior citizens) would all have to be watching, and not a single other channel on Japanese television would have any ratings, since every house would be watching TNA`s must-see product.


The ridiculousness of this lie just has to make me neg OP, there is no way you can actually take a look at the facts and believe this.


INDIA:

Same deal for the India info, the estimated number of television sets in India with cable is just over 103 million... So half of all Indians with cable would have to tune in to TNA according to OP, however the channel TNA is on, Sony Six, is actually satellite only, which only 54 million homes in India have. So again, literally everyone with satellite t.v. in India is apparently watching TNA.

SOUTH AFRICA:

Sport is their 14th most watched program.

Their first most watched is Soap Operas with 1-1.5 million per highest viewed program.

The third most watched program of 2012 in South Africa had 6.4 million viewers. The average viewership for sports programming is 40k-50k.

OP is claiming TNA is the most watched program in South Africa defying all of the countries trends and tastes. OP is a liar. Not going to look into anything else he says, it`s pure bs.

[jimbob007]

Only Dixie & co know the financial situation-but it has never been great. It was going out of business until the Jarrett's sold the majority of it to Panda. It depends on how business remains-if it takes a huge nosedive he will likely sell it. Frankly considering the abysmal booking that has been with the company since day one some eleven years ago it is incredible it is still going.

[pearljamfan]

TNA is the No1 wrestling show in Germany, broke the rating record for wrestling twice in a row.

TNA in Japan on Nippon Television Network, got 49.5 million viewers on 8/17/13, that's more than WWE, NJPW, AJPW, NOAH all put together. Since Rampage joined the numbers have not been dissimilar.

TNA gets roughly 50,000,000 viewers in India and 10,000,000 in South Africa.

Across Europe TNA kills WWE. In practically every non North American country that both TNA and WWE are show TNA dominates by a large margin and is usually on a better channel because of this.

those numbers are complete bs, 50 million viewers in japan, if that were the case tna would be booking the tokyo dome for shows and tna don't do any shows outside the states expect a handful in britain once a year where they draw far less than wwe btw

[Jfern689]

Fake facts. OP is a *******. TNA can't even pay the wrestlers of their top stable and storyline and had to let them go.

[pearljamfan]

Fake facts. OP is a *******. TNA can't even pay the wrestlers of their top stable and storyline and had to let them go.

to be fair to op i have seen multiple stories flying around the web recently about tna doing insane tv numbers outside of the usa e.g this one is probably the funniest considering the population of australia is 22.68 million

TNA IMPACT WRESTLING delivered 19.3 million viewers on Saturday Nights at 8:30pm AEST on Fuel TV . That’s bigger than MTV’s Jersey Shore and TLC’s Jon & Kate Plus 8 in the U.SA..

The latter previously held the cable record, with 9.6 million viewing during Jon & Kate‘s tabloid-fueled surge in 2010. The episode was up 86 percent and was watched by 17.3 million adults 18-49.


“Thanks to its authentic and engaging characters TNA IMPACT WRESTLING has become more than just a wrestling show, it is a cultural phenomenon,” said Julian Clarke Chief executive officer of News Corp Australia that is owned by Fox Sports Pty Ltd and runs Fuel TV. “We would like to thank the the president of Total Nonstop Action Wrestling We are all Happy at Fuel TV Dixie Carter, Happy as can be.”

the stories are complete and utter bs of course, but it is funny to see it getting re-reported as fact on tna fansites though.

[PatrickWayne96]

OP just posted a bunch of numbers without any facts behind them, I have provided the true story behind yhese before and it will be a pain to post them all again, but certain ratings are taken from comparisons of when TNA is aired in primetime on a free channel, compared to when WWE is aired live at 2:00 in the morning, and does not equate thr ratings for the reruns of RAW at better times throughout the week which actually pull in more numbers than TNA.

Arenas are also never full during a TNA event, ask anyone who has actually went. Thry always give away free tickets and still cant fill the house.

Check Nielsen overseas ratings and Nippon's ratings lmao. You know TNA is the 2nd most DVRd sport in America.

[PatrickWayne96]

but total divas has higher ratings than tna

E! Is a channel with far more exposure than Spike. Learn a bit about media before you make dumb statements.