IFBB PRO saying IIFYM principles are BS (PIC) (FB POST)

[Nicklol]

Actually the laws of thermogenics have been around for a long time, and by definition are not going anywhere. It's the broscience, fad diets, meal timing bull**** that changes every year and will continue to change as people continue to look for a magic pill (that doesn't exist) to make weight loss "easier". In reality it couldn't be more simple... eat less calories than you burn PERIOD.



please educate yourself on basic nutrition

He is right about all those shtty ingredients and fillers not being good for you.. 90% of calories in that sht comes from sugar.. you really think youre doing your body any good if you have a pre workout meal of poptarts (just sugar)

see how you feel working out after eating that.. instead of say... some eggs.

[barbonly]

Can you explain what's bad about a Pizza if it fits your macros?

Yeah im like wtf.

Also if you make your own pizza with the flour, yeast, and have the toppings fresh from the store I don't see how people can say pizza is bad. Probably just because of the general idea that it's a "fatty food".

I'd expect though you would be more "healthy" making your own IFYMM cakes and ice cream to be safe of the companies putting their own chit in it.

I'd love to make my own hnnnng chips that fit my macros. Although can't be bothered wasting time if it's no different to the chips at the store.

[tehczar]

Anyone that thinks pros sit around eating chicken and broccoli all day are naive.

Brb won't eat a pop tart but I will take something that will kill my balls. Makes sense

The amount of lazy cutting ass corner people in this forum is.........not surprising, its the misc afterall. I bet reddit has a better fitness forum.

[Groce]

he is an idiot, obviously meal timing matters for a pro bb'er who is injecting everything under the kitchen sink into his body, for everyday people who lift as a hobby and want to get aesthetic, it is fuking irrelevant

[brent89]

I personally think saying nutrition timing and food choice etc doesn't matter at all is stupid. I will agree it isn't as important as some people make it seem, but I think many more studies need to be done first. All the juice guys say it is stupid. They react to food the same as us only at a faster rate or recovery so I would assume if it doesn't work very well for them than it won't work as good as everyone is saying for us.

[AestheticG0d]

He is right about all those shtty ingredients and fillers not being good for you.. 90% of calories in that sht comes from sugar.. you really think youre doing your body any good if you have a pre workout meal of poptarts (just sugar)

see how you feel working out after eating that.. instead of say... some eggs.

Lol I feel great after eating sugar. I phucking hate eggs and rarely eat them. You think eating brocolli is any more healthier than poptarts with all the chemicals they use to grow fruits/vegetables?

[CeBKa]

lol read armpit as his name

[Animal-S]

Even with IIFYM, on a 2,000 calorie cut at 70p/20f/10c, a poptart is never going to "fit"

It works on a bulk but you're forced to eat clean on an aggressive cut.

Obviously it wouldn't but who would be so stupid to eat 350 grams of protein, you trolling?

[D-Wade7288]

I'm going to put it this way.

This argument has been going on for posts, threads and years.

DO WHAT WORKS FOR YOU.

If you like IIFYM, do it.

If you like eating "clean" then do it.

Different things work for different people. If you haven't tried either, then you cannot truly knock it.

Just saying.

[Dreyth]

IFFYM is the stupidest **** ever.

Carb timing + high protein all the way....with nutritious foods > eating what you want and when you want to hit your macros

you are saying "+ high protein" as if that's something that goes against IIFYM lulz

[KenJenkinsII]

There is so much ignorance itt. As far as body comp goes what kind of carbs you eat does not matter. But for overall health it isn't in your best interest to eat all your carbs from straight sugar.

[barbonly]

Lol I feel great after eating sugar. I phucking hate eggs and rarely eat them. You think eating brocolli is any more healthier than poptarts with all the chemicals they use to grow fruits/vegetables?

Grow your own Vegetables and make your own IFYMM "junk food" = profit.

[Dreyth]

People take IIFYM way to literal. Obviously it won't hurt to...let's say replace a cup of soda with something else in your diet as long as it fits your macro and calorie needs...but you can't just eat like sht and expect to look good, even if it does fit your macros. Stupidest sht ever when people think that

eat junk food all the time my entire life crew
still natty and lean crew.

time to up my protein intake since i haven't been hitting my macros, that way i can gain some more size

[AestheticG0d]

Grow your own Vegetables and make your own IFYMM "junk food" = profit.

Lol I'm not making my own poptarts, would taste like azz

[D-Wade7288]

Lol I'm not making my own poptarts, would taste like azz

That would be wild wouldn't it? lol

[xStevenx]

How many pro and top NPC bodybuilders were created with IIFYM.....none

[Dreyth]

There is so much ignorance itt. As far as body comp goes what kind of carbs you eat does not matter. But for overall health it isn't in your best interest to eat all your carbs from straight sugar.

this is pretty much the bottom line

[compan]

I'd rather fill my macros with nutritious food that isn't full of processed sugar. I feel a lot better throughout the day when I eat like that. Especially as a UC brah.

Lol I'm not making my own poptarts, would taste like azz

Homemade Quest Bar poptarts....hnnnnnggggg. you wanna talk about macros... brb, 20g protein pop tarts that taste good.

[-Lucifer]

all of his huge jacked bb friends are backing him up, how come i never see a really jacked guy saying good things about IIFYM?
only jacked urban youths who doesn't compete and basicly got their physique with their nigero genes are supporting IIFYM

Josef Rakich.

[Mattash2g]

There is so much ignorance itt. As far as body comp goes what kind of carbs you eat does not matter. But for overall health it isn't in your best interest to eat all your carbs from straight sugar.

Health = Eat healthy
Gain weight = Eat whatever


it's almost magic, right?

[mirroraddict]

Clearly the kid at the gym has a better understanding of basic nutrition than a Professional bodybuilder. SRS

Somehow I respect results more than intelligence. In every walk of life. I will respect the illiterate farm tycoon more than the Harvard MBA until the Harvard guy has him beat in terms of success.

[AestheticG0d]

The thing most people forget about with IIFYM is there are fiber/macronutrients requirements. This won't make a difference in body comp but you sort of have to eat some things "healthy" unless you supplement them to hit your fiber/micros.

[LukeLissen]

The vast majority of people who follow and push what they call IIFYM do not know what IIFYM truly means, do not actually calculate various chit into their macros anwyway, use it as an excuse to be lazy and gluttonous, look like chit, do not have the willpower/fortitude to endure a strict diet and are jealous of those who do, and want others to look like chit and be slackers with them so that they dont feel so bad about it.

[mirroraddict]

How many pro and top NPC bodybuilders were created with IIFYM.....none

I actually think that eating clean goes beyond the 'staying lean' or whatever benefit. There is a mental aspect to it. When you wake up early every morning, prepping your meals and eat them every 3 hours without fail , then you are constantly thinking about developing your physique.


Whatever you constantly and genuinely think about, your body begins to work towards achieving that goal. Kai Greene said this in a documentary once.. When you go through the daily disciplines, it puts you on the path of achieving the best physique you can, mentally speaking. After that, then you can begin talking about growth at the cellular level.

[KenJenkinsII]

Health = Eat healthy
Gain weight = Eat whatever


it's almost magic, right?

You srs Clark?

I am saying as far as body comp goes a calorie is a calorie, whether bulking or cutting

[Azzurrah]

For these IFBB pros that are on a lot of gear + abusing hgh and insulin, then maybe "clean eating" and meal timing may be relevant. If you are natural it won't make much of a difference to your physique as long as you are hitting your macros

[ActionSimon]

one person does a magical rain dance at a specific time of the day and then walks through the door

the other person just walks through the door

both people's methods worked, both people got through the door


the difference being the first guy is full retard mode (bro eater) and the second guy is logical (IIFYM)

[shorkey]

the prolbem is you cant just look at calories, carbs, protein and fat. There's also sugar and sodium. BRB if you eat crap that fits in your macros you might be consumming a chit load of sugar and salt that's detrimental to your health.

[Rambo26]

Obviously it wouldn't but who would be so stupid to eat 350 grams of protein, you trolling?

A pro BBer?

[tom11]

How many pro and top NPC bodybuilders were created with IIFYM.....none

The GOAT Ronnie Coleman ate junk food very often and he used to eat fries with BBQ sauce everynight. I don't know if you consider it IIFYM but he certainly didn't eat what you call "clean". At his mass level, he had to eat probably 6k or more kcals to grow, sure he ate his chicken whey and grits but ate junk food regularly. Arnold used to eat whole pies and pints of beer in contest prep too. Is that enough proof for you?

Open your mind, you don't have to eat 8 small meals a day consisted of grilled chicken and broccolli.