1st Cycle Test E & Deca

[ImNoSkiR!]

I have been working out for about 15 years, but about 2 really consistently. I just turned 30 and that helped me make up my mind to go for it.

I'm 5'7 162lbs. and about 12% bodyfat. I hope to gain about 20lbs. I started this past Monday - 250mg Test E and 250mg Deca (once a week on Mondays). I plan to do this for 10 weeks. I plan to alternate glutes, but we will see. My girl does the injecting. She gave me a bottle of Test Cyp after we were together a while, but I wanted no part of it then.

Niacin 500mg/day had high cholest in the past, but its down now.
PCT-Novadex 40/40/20/20


I eat very well and have made modest gains in the past naturally. I now plan to eat about 300 grams of protein a day.

My routine:
Mon-Chest
Tue-Back
Wed-Legs
Thur-Shoulders
Fri-Arms
Sat & Sun off - maybe some cardio

I had been doing each bodypart two times a week, but decided to cut back for the cycle.

Comments?

[scotto88]

Im pretty sure most people are taking 500mg of test/week and around 400mg/wk of the deca. I have also heard that you want to take a little more test than the deca for various reasons.
I took equipoise instead of deca and that seemed to work well for me. You also said that you are cutting back your workout routine when you start your cycle - why would you want to do that?

and whats up with you lady giving you some test - ha ha.

[ImNoSkiR!]

I'm not cutting back in the gym. I just went from working everything 2 times a week to one. Doing this though, I increased the number of sets I'm doing per workout. It gives me more recovery time between workouts.

I liked the girl more when she gave me the bottle of Test. Obviously though, she wants me to grow.

On increasing the test- I have read that in here too. But, since its my first cycle, I wanted to take it easy.

[big_boi_soprano]

Its a good cycle. I will be doing a similar cycle except running Test at 350mg with Deca at 250mg, and I would run Test 1-2 weeks longer than Deca. Also I would have Arimidex on hand.
Your workout routine looks good, i have split my workout the same way. You can do bodyparts twice a week while on juice because you will be recovering a lot faster, just split it up between morning and night workouts.
Thats cool that your girlfriend gives you a bottle of Test and willing to inject aswell. I wish my girlfriend was like that.

[IcyHotNate]

Good luck bro! People advise to up the test level because the deca can make you not so good in the sex department... the higher test levels will keep you ragin tho, so that is why they say up it.

[ImNoSkiR!]

Thanks for all the comments.

I had good workouts this week. I do have to make up arms tomorrow because everything was closed Tuesday for Mardi Gras. I've made some strength gains, but nothing remarkable. I didn't expect anything substantial yet since it hasn't kicked in yet. Good pump today though.

I don't know if I can increase the test yet. I want to for what I've heard, but I have 10 weeks worth of amps and thats it. I have to see what I can do. It may not be test E though.

[ImNoSkiR!]

Monday started my second week. I increased the Test E to 375 mg and kept the deca at 250.

I haven't seen any remarkable strength gains, but I've gained 7 pounds in the last week. I can certainly tell I'm bigger too. My clothes are getting tight. It seems unlikely to have kicked in already, but it seems to have. I have been eating just over 3000 calories a day and at least 250 grams of protein.

My protein comes from Muscle Milk shakes (with milk) and chicken breasts mainly, sometimes beef. I drink a shake as soon as I wake up, immediately after working out, and just before bed. I also eat about 3 protein bars a day in between normal meals. Things seem to be going well the diet, but the supplements are getting expensive.

The workouts have been good. I've been sore as hell though and not just the glutes.

I'll post some pics soon.

[IcyHotNate]

Sounds like an expensive diet, my friend.

Try to cook up some more chicken, and carry it around with you. Plain, cold chicken may sound gross... but you get used to it after about a month. haha

[Npeart]

I absolutely love Muscle Milk, but the five pound jugs are $50.00. I am far from cheap and certainly can afford it, but that is just outrageous.

[creativedesignz]

try real gains by universal nutrition. their ingredient profile is much better than that of muscle milk.

[vagymguy]

Originally Posted by Npeart

I absolutely love Muscle Milk, but the five pound jugs are $50.00. I am far from cheap and certainly can afford it, but that is just outrageous.

You must me buying yours are GNC. I am buy the 2.5 pound tubs for between $19 to $22 each, usually free shipping

[ImNoSkiR!]

Today started the third week. I can see a difference now for sure. I measured myself again tonight after the glute pinch. I have gained at least a half an inch to an inch all over. My weight is now 172 up from 162 on day 1. Getting much stronger too. I've had traps come from outta nowhere.

It feels like I've gained more on waist than anywhere else. I don't really like that. I'm watching my abs disappear and my pants are getting tight. I haven't had a chance to measure my bodyfat again yet.

2/21 162lbs
3/5 172 lbs

2/20 3/5
chest 37 39
abdomen 32 3/4 33 3/4
shoulders 47 1/4 48 1/8
arms 13 14
thigh 22 1/2 22 3/4
calf 15 15 3/4

[ImNoSkiR!]

In the last post the measurement numbers didn't line up properly. The ones on the left are from 2/20 and the ones on the right are from 3/5.
Example: the chest 37 is from 2/20 and the 39 is from 3/5.

I also have an updated pic on my profile. I'll post them on here later.

[ImNoSkiR!]

OK, so today started week 4. I currently weigh 175 lbs. That is +13 lbs since day one. I have certainly put on some muscle. I can barely button some of my pants (put on some fat too) and my shirts are getting tight. I'm starting to get some pimples on my back and torso though.
I don't train on Mondays so I'm gonna post yesterdays arm workout.
BB curls
45x10
75x9
75x8
75x8
85x8
Incl Dumb curls
30s 3 sets 8 reps (8 reps on one arm then 8 on the other-rest)
one arm cable curl
4plx8
5plx6

Skull crushers
75x12
95x8
95x8
95x7
cable tri ext with ez type bar
12plx12
14plx10
15plx9
one arm cable kickbacks
1 set each arm 4plx10

Felt good. Great pump

I'm gonna start posting my workouts everyday. As I said in the last post, I have some progress pics on my profile.

[ImNoSkiR!]

Its about time my bench started going up. Finally today I noticed a difference. Today was chest and calf day.
BP
135x12
185x8
205x8
215x6
225x6
IBP
155x7
165x7
175x7
Weighted dips
45lbsx8
55x8
55x6
Dumb Flyes
30sx10
40sx8
Donkey calf
200x12
220x12
240x12
240x12
240x8+200x4
Seated calf
1set 90x12
3 sets 135x12
Hanging leg lifts 3 sets x 15

That's it for today. Feel good. Happy to be improving.

[ImNoSkiR!]

Week 5 began on Monday. I've been away from the internet world for a few days so I couldn't post. I weigh about 180 now. That's almost 20 pounds so far in 5 weeks. The weight is increasing much slower now than it was in the past few weeks. I think I'm gonna up my calories some more.

Still getting a little acne, but feel good and look much better. I'll take new measurements and pics this weekend. I'll start posting my workouts again tomorrow.

[ImNoSkiR!]

Today was leg day. It was a good workout.

Smith Squats
135x12
225x10
275x8
275x8
275x8
295x6

Hack Squats
4plx10
6plx6
6plx6

leg ext
150x10
160x10
165x10

leg curl
120x10
120x10
125x10

donkey calf raises
200x12
220x12
240x11
240x11

seated calf
100x10
135x12
135x10
135x15

Workout felt good. I'm still getting stronger. I'm gonna up my calories to about 3800 since I've started slowing down gaining weight. I've been eating around 3400cal with 250g of protein.

I started the NO-xplode stuff today. I didn't feel a difference. I'll have to try two scoops tomorrow. I'm still using cell-tech too.

The cell-tech gives me a belly ache and makes me nauseated everytime I take it. Does this happen to anyone else?

[BIEN_DIESEL]

girlfriend buying u test= true love<333333333

[SHOWTIME]

Well you have some good progress so far. Some creatine can give me that bloated feeling too

[ImNoSkiR!]

Monday started week six. I'm almost 180lbs. I was 160 at the start. I feel great, except none of my clothes fit me. Probably gonna have to get some tetracycline for the acne though. Its gettin pretty bad. I put some new progress pics on my profile. Check them out and tell me if you can see a change.

Saturday shoulder wo
stand mp
135x8
145x6
145x5
145x5

upright rows
45x10
95x8
105x8
105x7
105x8

dumb lat raises
25sx10
30sx10
30sx10

cable lat raises
3plx10
4plx5 (failure)

Dumb shrugs
4 sets 110sx12

Sunday arms
bb curls
45x10
85x8
85x8
85x6
85x8

preacher curls
75x10
85x8
85x8

Incl dumb curls
3 sets 30sx8

Skull crushers
75x12
3 sets of 95x10
95x9

cable tri ext
12plx10
15plx8
15plx10
15plx11

cable kickbacks
4plx8
4plx8
4plx6 (failure)

I'm still increasing the NO-xplode until I feel it. Now, I'm at 1 and a half scoops. I'll try two tomorrow.

[FRANKtheTANK_21]

Wow man great job thus far. I cant believe youve already put on 20 in week 6. Your test is probably just been kicked in for a couple of weeks now. So your doing excellent. Bodyfat doesnt look like it has gone up considerably. Great job!

[ImNoSkiR!]

I'm a day behind this week.

Incl dumb press
50sx10, 75sx8, 80sx8, 80sx6, 80sx6

flat Dumb bench press
80sx7, 80sx5, 80sx6

Weighted dips
BW+50lbsx10, x7, x7, x5

donkey calf raises
120x12, 220x12, 220x12, 220x10, 220x10

seated calf raises
90x12, 135x12, 135x12, 135x15

that's it for today. felt pretty good. good pump. I must have taken enough noxplode today. I took two scoops.

[JIMAIC]

Instead Of Nolva Take Arimidex 1/2 Eod If Needed .
Take Your Cycle Like A Piramid And Not Stable Dosses .
I Mean 1-3 250mgr Test
4-6 500mgr Test
7-10 250mgr Test
The Same With Deca
Plus The Food Must Be As Clean As It Can Be With 4500-5000 Cals
And More Than 200 Grams Of Protein .
Take The New Universal Torrent Sup .mark My Words
Take Vit C 1000mgr 3 Times A Day
Take Vit E 300mgr 3 Times A Day
Take Ω3 Fatty Acids 1000mgr 3 Times A Day .

Good Luck

[rustymuz]

i disagree with the last post. No need to pyramid the cycle.

[ImNoSkiR!]

I weighed 185 this morning- that is plus 25lbs in almost 7 weeks. I'm wondering if I should take some nolvadex to off some water, but I've read on here that it can slow my gains. If anyone has any input/ experience on this please let me know.

Also, as I've said before, I take cell-tech post workouts. The stuff makes me very nauseated. I don't want to take it anymore. Does anyone know a similar product to celltech that is good? Maybe cellmass or something?

Today's workout

Wide grip pullups
BWx12,x10,x8,x6

Barb Bent over row
135x8, 175x4, 155x8, 155x8

Underhand lat pulls
150x10,160x8, 160x7, 160x7

Dumb Bent over row
65sx10, 80sx8, 80sx8, 90sx4

Decent workout, not my best. My back is my weakest bodypart, but I'm working on it.

[ImNoSkiR!]

I had to work legs and shoulders today because I missed a day this week. I wouldn't recommend it. I did shoulders first, since legs are my favorite. Great shoulder workout. I've been getting good pumps. Leg workout was mixed, but great pump. Strength has increased remarkably on everything.

Smith Mil Press
45x10, 135x10, 165x8, 175x8, 185x5

Arnold Presses
45sx8, 50sx8, 50sx8-failure

seated lat raises
30sx8, 30sx8, 30sx8

one arm behind back cable lat raises
30x10, 40x5

Dumb shrugs
65sx10, 110sx12,x12,x12,x12

Legs (this was a b*tch after shoulders)
Smith Squats
135x10, 225x10, 275x8, 315x6, 315x6, 295x8

hack squat
180x10, 230x8-10, 270x8-10

leg ext
140x10, x10,x10

leg curl
120x10, x8,x10

Hey folks I welcome your feedback. See my last post also celltech and water weight..

[ihop]

exellent first cycle for begimmers, this was my first cycle too, except i only did 250 test e and 300 deca though, gained 25 pounds. good luck!

p.s a girl friend who gets you test.... man i love it, you throw a diamond and that and marry her if you havent allready!!!

[ImNoSkiR!]

Monday started week 7 out of 10. I feel good. My weight is a strong 185, that's plus at least 25 lbs. I quit feeling the pins by the third week. All is well and I'm happy as hell with my strength increases. The acne is getting a bit crazy though. I'm gonna probably wait another week and take some tetracycline for it. Also, I'm going next week to get my labs done. This is my first cycle, so if anyone has any suggestions, I'd like to here them.

Todays workout
Bench Press
135x12, 185x10, 205x8, 225x5, 235x4, 235x5

Incl dumb bench
75sx7, x6, x5- failure

Machine flyes
75x8, x10, x10

weighted dips
BW + 50lbs x8, x8, x5

skull crushers
95x8, x6-8, x6-8 -failure

One arm cable kickbacks
40x8, x8, x8

Tri ext cable
140x10, 150x10, 150x8-failure

Donkey calf
160x12, 200x12, 220x12, 220x12, 220x10, one leg-60x8 each calf

That's it. Had to switch the routine to chest & tri and back and bi, dropping the arm day. The gym is not open long enough on sunday for me to get in there and work arms.

[ImNoSkiR!]

All seems to be going well.
Wednesday's workout below.

Wide grip Pull ups 10, 8, 8, 6

Bent over row (Smith)
185x7, x8, x8,x6

Underhand lat pulls
150x10, 160x8, 175x8-failure

Seated row
130x10, 145x10, 145x10, 160x6

Barb Curls
70x8- 3 sets

Incl dumb curls (all one arm then the other)
30sx8, x6, x6- failure

Dumb shrugs
100s- 5 sets of 12 reps

[5x10]

good results
thats the same stack im looking to do soon