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    Restlessness & can't sleep - overtraining?

    I only lift twice a week and do steady state cardio for 30mins after these sessions but I'm an amateur boxer so on the other 4 days its pretty much HIIT workouts.

    I eat around 1000-1500 calories with intermittent fasting. Macros are around 100g carbs 30g fat 100g protein.
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    how long are you dieting like that? I have figured out, from personal experince... If i eat almost all calories in one sitting i sleep like a baby after that. Google which food combinations have hard time digesting so you can sleep...
    Can work well in combo with such low cal IF dieting...
    I.e. Eating only before bedtime
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    What are your stat?. The calories are rather low especially with your activity level.
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    Originally Posted by THe WeapoN View Post
    What are your stat?. The calories are rather low especially with your activity level.
    6'0 135lbs, Im not liftng heavy weights regularly so is overtraining even possible? I think it might have to do with adjusting to IF instead
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    This has to be troll doesn't it?

    Six foot 135 and only 30g fat a day... you can't sleep cause your malnurished and likely incredibly outta wack with all your hormones.

    If you have truely kept this up for an extended time your likely starting to have neurological issues.
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    1000-1500 calories a day - working out and boxing like a beast in the gym? You should barely have enough energy to gte to the gym let alone lift, cardio for 30 mins and HIIT boxing!

    However the question is - you can't sleep? I'm not sure we're sleep experts here - but do you have a regular sleep schedule, a regular time you go to bed, any stress keeping you up, hunger issues that keep you from gong to sleep? Assuming this thread isn't a joke.
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    Originally Posted by Shandlar View Post
    This has to be troll doesn't it?

    Six foot 135 and only 30g fat a day... you can't sleep cause your malnurished and likely incredibly outta wack with all your hormones.

    If you have truely kept this up for an extended time your likely starting to have neurological issues.
    I don't know of any food that is high in fat but also low in calories so I stick to eating protein rich foods - chicken breast, tuna, egg whites etc. It just happens there's not a lot of fat in my diet. I don't think its that serious because I still have at least 15% bodyfat so I'm not sickly looking.

    Originally Posted by RocknRollMuscle View Post
    1000-1500 calories a day - working out and boxing like a beast in the gym? You should barely have enough energy to gte to the gym let alone lift, cardio for 30 mins and HIIT boxing!

    However the question is - you can't sleep? I'm not sure we're sleep experts here - but do you have a regular sleep schedule, a regular time you go to bed, any stress keeping you up, hunger issues that keep you from gong to sleep? Assuming this thread isn't a joke.
    I've switched to IF recently and sleep 6 hours after my last meal so I'm guessing it may be the hunger.
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    Originally Posted by jstar1 View Post
    I've switched to IF recently and sleep 6 hours after my last meal so I'm guessing it may be the hunger.
    try eating some unsalted peanuts before bed. Peanuts according to recent studies do'nt add much to the daily calories for some reason. Possibly have a protein shake with a bit of benefiber. However if you have a strict regular sleep schedule you should fall asleep fast, even if hungry.
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    OP are you female?
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    OP are you female?
    No, just have little muscle mass
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    Originally Posted by jstar1 View Post
    No, just have little muscle mass
    Then why are you on a cutting diet?
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    You are probably restless and having a hard time sleeping because your body is desperate for nourishment and wants you to get out of bed and walk to the fridge. Maybe there's something that we're missing (You say that you are an amateur boxer, are you trying to stay in an ultra welterweight division?) but 1000-1500 calories is extremely low for a 6' male. From what little information we have you sound borderline eating disorder. You weigh in the 130's, which is skeletal for someone 6' tall.

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    Originally Posted by Tupperwolf View Post
    You are probably restless and having a hard time sleeping because your body is desperate for nourishment and wants you to get out of bed and walk to the fridge. Maybe there's something that we're missing (You say that you are an amateur boxer, are you trying to stay in an ultra welterweight division?) but 1000-1500 calories is extremely low for a 6' male. From what little information we have you sound borderline eating disorder. You weigh in the 130's, which is skeletal for someone 6' tall.

    Stay safe OP.
    I'm not skeletal at all, my ribs don't show and I would guess I'm around 15-20 per cent bodyfat. It maybe inadequate nutrition or that body isn't used to my new IF schedule with going to bed on an empty stomach.
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    u need to eat more and focus on complex carbs for steady energy
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    Pics? I want to see what 6-0" 135 looks like.
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    Originally Posted by TheGhost9900 View Post
    Pics? I want to see what 6-0" 135 looks like.
    I once was 6'0" and 135 I was not healthy by any means. Being so skeletal is what lead me to lifting weights.

    Not saying that you're not in good shape, but your body needs more food. Are you just keeping this weight temporarily for your weight class? If so what's your normal healthy body weight.
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    eat what you are eating + a gallon of milk and a bunch of chicken and steak ASAP
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    Originally Posted by cocoalotion View Post
    I once was 6'0" and 135 I was not healthy by any means. Being so skeletal is what lead me to lifting weights.

    Not saying that you're not in good shape, but your body needs more food. Are you just keeping this weight temporarily for your weight class? If so what's your normal healthy body weight.
    I'm just aiming to get my bodyfat down to a reasonable level, not worried about the weight class. My usual weight when not monitoring calories is around 145, 150 max if I'm pigging out.

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    eat what you are eating + a gallon of milk and a bunch of chicken and steak ASAP
    That's a good way to put on unnecessary fat. I want to put on no more than 2-3lbs a month when i bulk.
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    I was 6 ft and 125 lbs, but I was in 8th grade. There is no way your at a healthy weight, and you should not be concentrating on cutting at your weight, what little lbm you have is all going to go away, and you will still have all the fat.
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    Pictures are needed at this point cause this is pretty much a certain troll job.

    6 foot 135 is <18.5 BMI. And BMI is notoriously bad for anyone above sedentary skeletal musculature.

    If you train as you say you would at least have some extra skeletal muscle on your frame and STILL be in the 'underweight' category for BMI, this would put your bodyfat somewhere in the 6% range, not 15%.

    Frankly I'm curious what bodytype you could possibly have for this to be actually true. Do you just have extremely narrow wrist/neck/waist/chest? This would be interesting if actually true, but frankly I just don't believe what you are telling us.
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    Try taking Magnesium before bed. 200 mg of Magnesium Citrate.

    Edit: Just noticed OP's weight and diet. Good god son, eat something. And if you still can't sleep, then try the Magnesium.
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    Originally Posted by Shandlar View Post
    Pictures are needed at this point cause this is pretty much a certain troll job.

    6 foot 135 is <18.5 BMI. And BMI is notoriously bad for anyone above sedentary skeletal musculature.

    If you train as you say you would at least have some extra skeletal muscle on your frame and STILL be in the 'underweight' category for BMI, this would put your bodyfat somewhere in the 6% range, not 15%.

    Frankly I'm curious what bodytype you could possibly have for this to be actually true. Do you just have extremely narrow wrist/neck/waist/chest? This would be interesting if actually true, but frankly I just don't believe what you are telling us.
    I have thin wrists and arms. Chest is 36 inches, I just have a light bone structure. I'll post pics tomorrow as its 3am over here and I can't sleep yet again despite not training at all today.
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    Originally Posted by TheGhost9900 View Post
    Pics? I want to see what 6-0" 135 looks like.
    Weighed myself today and was 138lbs according to gym scales but I had my clothes on where as at home i weight myself in just briefs. As you can see I still have a lot of bodyfat. So i want to drop it a little further before bulking otherwise I'll be even more fat.
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    i have the same exact problem except that i am 12 % bf.

    i am thinking of pushing my eating window 2 -3 hours before bed with some carbs just to see if i can sleep better.

    i have also be thinking about sleeping pills like melatonin , gaba but i don't want to take pills to sleep plus i don't have money now

    any better solutions? :P

    op bulk with 200-300 surplus to avoid any fat gain.You have low muscle mass.Even if you add a little bf that's ok it's winter.

    i am also skinny but with more muscle so i can still cut some
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    also avoid caffeine/stimulants for some days to see if that is the problem

    because it's a possibility and you could try to drink a hot milk[boiled] 2hr -3hr pre bed or 1 hr your choice. i'have heard it works
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    OP for the love of GOD you need more calories ASAP... reverse diet till you get to your TDEE than start bulking from that point even if you get to have your bf lower where else would your body go?
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    jstar1 you have an unhealthy lack of muscle mass. This isn't the vanity of a bodybuilding forum where muscle is praised talking, this is just common sense. You are severely limiting your caloric intake, doing lots of cardio. You need to get yourself up to a healthy weight. There are all kinds of health problems that can come from being as underweight as you are. From your posts I don't know that any of us could say decisively that you have an eating disorder but you are showing signs. Your first priority should be eating more to give your body the nourishment it's demanding. If you are struggling with that, there are lots of resources available, even an ED thread here on bb.com. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...9942713&page=1
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    Originally Posted by jstar1 View Post
    Weighed myself today and was 138lbs according to gym scales but I had my clothes on where as at home i weight myself in just briefs. As you can see I still have a lot of bodyfat. So i want to drop it a little further before bulking otherwise I'll be even more fat.
    wow

    not to be mean but you need to eat ASAP, im guessing you have a self image problem, you are very emaciated looking
    You need more protein, aim for 160g a day, ditch the excessive cardio and aim to gain half a pound of weight a week, you have very little muscle mass at all. Eat more food ASAP, you should not be in the losing fat section, you need to gain weight.
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