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    Originally Posted by PBateman2 View Post
    1.)Chocolate milk
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    4.)Chocolate milk
    5.)Chocolate milk

    Just finished a liter there, 790 cals of pure awesomeness.
    Eat the damn yolk.

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    just finished a liter there, 790 cals of pure awesomeness.
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    [QUOTE=WonderPug;1126744893]FYI: That can easily be resolved by rational sun exposure, as no dietary vitamin D is required. That said, if you're in an environment where sufficient sun exposure is not possible, and dietary intake is insufficient, then supplementation makes sense.


    where are you getting your most important viatmin at b complex . you are lacking . see

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    thanks for the info but its so hard figuring how to use the forums on the go at work

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    Isolate to hit protein macros. BCAAs in water to make drinking a gallon a day easier.


    If I did "believe" in supplements my 5 would be

    Creatine
    Multi
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    L-Glutamine
    Vitargo
    When people are doubting you, when people are badgering you to get tanked every weekend, when people claim you're boring, just remember you're doing this for you. No one else. If people are too narrow minded to acknowledge your sacrifice, your blood, sweat and tears, your hard work and your happiness to better yourself as a person, they aren't worth it. Simple as that.

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    1. Artic ultra strength fish oil (900mg epa/dha per cap)
    2. MGN whey (cinnamon bun, ice cream sandwich, vanilla caramel, pb)
    3. MGN casein (choc, or vanilla)
    4. Intense workouts
    5. good general diet
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    Originally Posted by determined4000 View Post
    1. Artic ultra strength fish oil (900mg epa/dha per cap)
    2. MGN whey (cinnamon bun, ice cream sandwich, vanilla caramel, pb)
    3. MGN casein (choc, or vanilla)
    4. Intense workouts
    5. good general diet
    What happened with MGN? First time I tasted their whey it was good, second time I bought it I ended up getting a whole bunch of flavored sand.

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    [QUOTE=determined4000;1127110163]1. Artic ultra strength fish oil (900mg epa/dha per cap)

    what brand is your fish oil my **** got nothing like that

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    Originally Posted by bacnite View Post
    mean are
    1.protein powder [by ON] or trutein
    2.creatine [even though i never took it] [BSN]
    3.multi enzyme caps [twin lab]
    4.glutamine [body fortress or body tech]
    5.b complex [twin lab]

    i really want to hear yours
    ON 100% whey double rich chocolate
    creapure creatine
    xtend bcaa (sour apple)
    Orange Triad
    Oximega fish oil
    and.....

    OATS

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    Originally Posted by bacnite View Post
    where are you getting your most important viatmin at b complex . you are lacking . see
    From food, obviously.

    It's functionally impossible to be deficient in B vitamins assuming a rational diet composed of plant and animal matter.

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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    From food, obviously.

    It's functionally impossible to be deficient in B vitamins assuming a rational diet composed of plant and animal matter.
    Pug the font change makes me infer that you copied that from somewhere? If that's the case mind citing the source?

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    Originally Posted by YoungEx20 View Post
    Pug the font change makes me infer that you copied that from somewhere? If that's the case mind citing the source?
    It helps it stand out.
    Eat the damn yolk.

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    Originally Posted by YoungEx20 View Post
    Pug the font change makes me infer that you copied that from somewhere? If that's the case mind citing the source?
    I didn't copy it. I just italicised the text for emphasis.

    In regard to my statement, it's vacuously obvious that a vitamin B deficiency is functionally impossible in health individuals consuming a rational diet composed of plant and animal matter.

    Ironically, B supplements can cause deficiencies because the mega dosing can impair absorption.

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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    I didn't copy it. I just italicised the text for emphasis.

    In regard to my statement, it's vacuously obvious that a vitamin B deficiency is functionally impossible in health individuals consuming a rational diet composed of plant and animal matter.

    Ironically, B supplements can cause deficiencies because the mega dosing can impair absorption.
    Do you have any science to back up anything you ever say?

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    Originally Posted by chamelious View Post
    Do you have any science to back up anything you ever say?
    None whatsoever.

    After all, nobody knows that:

    Thiamin is found in most types of food. Riboflavin is plentiful in eggs, dairy products, rice and various fortified foods such as cereals. Niacin is plentiful in meat, fish, eggs, dairy products and even in wheat. Pantothenic acid is even more prevalent in various foods. Heck, it hard to avoid pyridoxine. Folic acid is plentiful in many vegetables. And B12 is abundant in animal matter

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    Originally Posted by chamelious View Post
    Do you have any science to back up anything you ever say?
    He is the king of scholarly articles.

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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    None whatsoever.

    After all, nobody knows that:

    Thiamin is found in most types of food. Riboflavin is plentiful in eggs, dairy products, rice and various fortified foods such as cereals. Niacin is plentiful in meat, fish, eggs, dairy products and even in wheat. Pantothenic acid is even more prevalent in various foods. Heck, it hard to avoid pyridoxine. Folic acid is plentiful in many vegetables. And B12 is abundant in animal matter
    And the amount of people that believe supplementing with pyridoxine gives them more energy is more proof of the power of persuasion from advertising. They truly believe it does and you can't reason with them otherwise. (That's been my experience of the years)

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    Originally Posted by rand18m View Post
    And the amount of people that believe supplementing with pyridoxine gives them more energy is more proof of the power of persuasion from advertising. They truly believe it does and you can't reason with them otherwise. (That's been my experience of the years)
    If you market the ultimate hydration supplement, containing pure oxidane, I'm sure people would pay $5 per liter and swear it's better than water

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    you need at least at least 200 mg . minmum recommended for stress on your muscle . meat has 25 grams of all b complex . and soy beans are the only think other then red meat that has B 12 you know nothing your **** a a lil dude wanting to be big post a pic of your results if your that big

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    Don't be that guy who buys hundreds of dollars of supplements every month when you have no clue whether you need them or not.

    Originally Posted by shimmy2501 View Post
    I see the point you're trying to make. But I highly doubt that you're positive that you're not deficient in anything.

    EDIT: Can you please post your standard diet?
    His diet is upwards of 4,000 calories a day and he's hitting optimal macro targets with a variety of whole foods. Because of this, micronutrient deficiency is virtually impossible.

    Originally Posted by chamelious View Post
    Do you have any science to back up anything you ever say?
    Lol'd...

    The dude is dropping scientific journal references on a daily basis.

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    Originally Posted by bacnite View Post
    you need at least at least 200 mg . minmum recommended for stress on your muscle . meat has 25 grams of all b complex . and soy beans are the only think other then red meat that has B 12 you know nothing your **** a a lil dude wanting to be big post a pic of your results if your that big
    Wow. Just wow.

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    Originally Posted by bacnite View Post
    you need at least at least 200 mg . minmum recommended for stress on your muscle . meat has 25 grams of all b complex . and soy beans are the only think other then red meat that has B 12 you know nothing your **** a a lil dude wanting to be big post a pic of your results if your that big
    My dad can beat up your dad... just sayin...

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    Originally Posted by bacnite View Post
    you need at least at least 200 mg . minmum recommended for stress on your muscle . meat has 25 grams of all b complex . and soy beans are the only think other then red meat that has B 12 you know nothing your **** a a lil dude wanting to be big post a pic of your results if your that big
    Shellfish have tons of B12. You can also find it in dairy, eggs, fish. WTF are you talking about?



    I'm amazed at how many people seem to be arguing that your daily nutritional needs can't be met by simply eating a balanced and varied diet like that's such a crazy way out there idea. I guess its a miracle that mankind survived long enough for the supplement companies to save us all.

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    Wow. Just wow.
    just woke up, hit the nut forum and this is the first thread i read. will there be another thread worth reading, after this one?

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    Originally Posted by bacnite View Post
    mean are
    1.protein powder [by ON] or trutein
    2.creatine [even though i never took it] [BSN]
    3.multi enzyme caps [twin lab]
    4.glutamine [body fortress or body tech]
    5.b complex [twin lab]

    i really want to hear yours

    Sup brah,

    -myofusion elite PB cookie dough
    -cell tech creatine grape(unreal)
    -bovine colostrum(surthrival)
    -glutamine,bcaa combo
    -vitamin C
    -fish oil
    -garlic 1000
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    When supplement shopping, always change 1 thing at a time in your diet. If you buy 9 different things and start to make gains, you won't know what worked and will be forced to buy all 9 products again meanwhile prob only 2 of them really worked. This is one of the strategies supplement companies use to build a basket and create residual business.
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    1. Multi
    2. Fish Oils/ Joint formula
    3. Pre-workout of some sort
    4. Antioxidants
    5. Probiotics/fiber formula

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    Very sad to see a 18 year old these days talking about needing supplements, when I was his age we ate nothing but whole foods and grew what we could in the backyard and we were very healthy and got everything from food, I can understand protein powder to get the extra you need, I use an all natural protein whey powder the only ingredient is whey protein isolate and I just add some natural things from the fridge for flavor, if you go to a construction site or a crew working on repairing roads and look at the guy's in their 60's and 70's that eat healthy home cooked foods their whole lives and work hard all day for 40 or 50 years their ripped and could kick your butt, bb's eat so much food if it's all healthy food you'll get everything you'll ever need, cheer's I'm outta here time for a snack, walnuts, banana and yogurt!

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    Originally Posted by bacnite View Post
    you need at least at least 200 mg . minmum recommended for stress on your muscle . meat has 25 grams of all b complex . and soy beans are the only think other then red meat that has B 12 you know nothing your **** a a lil dude wanting to be big post a pic of your results if your that big
    I can't, wut...I just feel bad for you. Your lack of knowledge on this subject is saddening, and the fact that you deny evidence with your opinion really shows your age. I don't even see a need to reply with facts or evidence to prove you wrong, as you will simply respond with absolute nonsense.

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    Originally Posted by fishnbrah View Post
    dont even take 5 supps. multi,....
    This. Multi, creatine and protonz
    let them say i lived in the time of zyzz.
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    I take: Creatine, Beta-alanine, and caffeine. All things that I do not get through my diet in plentiful amounts and have actual scientific backing behind them.
    I take a protein powder if I am short on my intake for the day, and a few vitamins to fill in dietary gaps. (Like D3 since I work inside a vault 9hrs a day).
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