With a bit of jerking or really strict?
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08-22-2013, 01:49 PM #1
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08-22-2013, 02:05 PM #2
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08-22-2013, 02:10 PM #3
Many years ago, I trained in the same gym with, among several other notables, two NPC-level competitors. I will always remember watching one of those guys, who had delts like cannon balls, as he did Lateral Raises. He stood in front of a mirror, one foot slightly in front of the other, and with a bit of a forward lean, slowly and methodically repping over and over, under full control, a pair of 25 -pound dumbbells with perfect form.No brain, no gain.
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08-22-2013, 02:22 PM #4
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08-22-2013, 02:23 PM #5
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08-22-2013, 02:29 PM #6
Strict enough so that i really feel the burn in my side delts.
Progression will be slow and should be treated on more of a monthly basis, or every other week depending.
Just remember that if you go up 5 lbs a month, you'll be doing laterals with 60s (or 60 heavier) after 1 year. Slow progression is fine.
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08-22-2013, 02:36 PM #7
Given how little weight is used with proper form in this movement, adding one rep is a significant strength increase.
Also keep in mind that your medial delts play a synergistic role in overhead press (more so the wider your grip) and a stabilizing role (and perhaps synergistic at the bottom of the ROM) on bench press.
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08-22-2013, 02:53 PM #8
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08-22-2013, 02:56 PM #9
^^^^ This.
These small-muscle isolation exercises are much more 'feel' oriented than anything else. I hesitate to state that the weight "doesn't matter," but that's really the gist of it. If you could watch a 5' 11", 230ish-pound shredded bodybuilder using 25-pounders, you'd immediately get the message. Learn to feel the target muscle working, then work it thoroughly with good form.
Hard to explain in words on a page, but you'll know it when you're doing it.No brain, no gain.
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08-22-2013, 03:16 PM #10
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08-22-2013, 04:45 PM #12
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No jerking, but my right shoulder clicks and I have to compromise form slightly to make it doable without the clicking.
When I get near failure, I have a 5-10 second rest and again lift them to the top, if possible. It is easy to do many partial reps after going to failure on full range with this, it seems right to me to leave it 5-10 secs then lift to the top again. Shoulders just seem like those type of muscles, can recover pretty fast and be able to get one more rep.u wot m1.68179283050742908606225095246644152⁴
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08-22-2013, 04:47 PM #13No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
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08-22-2013, 05:13 PM #14
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08-22-2013, 06:07 PM #15
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i actually do 3-4 sets of really strict form and on my 5 set i'll use a little bit of body movement to lift the weight up but i still get a nice good squeeze and hold at the top. i dont just swing it around either. i think kai green once said he uses cheat reps as well towards his last sets of an exercise but still holds the form tight and squeezes.
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08-22-2013, 07:04 PM #16
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