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    Natty's assemble! (GTFIH) (natty limit)

    CLIFF BELOW IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ...


    Bros... We've been dooped, we've been deceived, and we've just been flat out lied to. I'm here to offer just a couple of examples of someone who exemplifies what we call the natty limit. I'm sick of these guys on youtube who are full and dry and shredded and claiming natty, giving unrealistic expectations to those of us who are natty. I'm truly sorry if this hurts or discourages you in any way, but it's the truth. I know because I was one of those kids who started lifting weights and thought I could take my multi and my creatine and just get as big as I wanted. I thought I could look like god damn Jay Cutler if I just trained long enough. Well the wool has been pulled over our eyes brothers and I just wanted to give you some realistic expectations of what the AVERAGE GYM RAT can expect to look like. I'm not saying that there are not naturals out there who look better... I repeat. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE ARE NOT NATURALS OUT THERE WHO LOOK BETTER. So don't rip me a new a$$hole ok?


    CLIFFS: THIS IS WHAT THE AVERAGE LIFTING MISCER CAN ASPIRE TO LOOK LIKE REALISTICALLY.


    Get your tissues ready... Most wont believe this because we've been dooped into believing these fitness model physiques are attainable natty but they just aren't. Those guy's careers depend on them coming in full and dry and shredded, why would they admit being not natty? They couldn't even if they wanted to because they would lose their sponsorships. Anyways... Pretty much the biggest and leanest a natty (with AT LEAST average dedication to the lifestyle) can get is someone like Marc Fitt or Scott Herman. AND THAT'S NOT A BAD THING!!



















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    Again, i want to reiterate... I am talking about us guys who have AVERAGE TO ABOVE AVERAGE DEDICATION TO THE SPORT. Now before you go posting some pics of some hulked up powerlifter or a guy who has 13% bf and looks huge, please understand. To be big is one thing, to be lean is one thing, to be lean AND big natty is something totally different. Peace guys please don't take this the wrong way, I'm just trying to set some reasonable goals for us naturals. These guys look great and I would love to look like either of them.
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    That's about the best i could imagine getting. Note my avi isn't recent. Still a ways to go. Will I make it?
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    I'll prove you wrong. Herman has **** form on lots of his lifts taking away from his aesthetics anyways



    this is the real deal and yes he's natty as he's 27-28 now and been lifting for years...i will obtain these aesthetics
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    above average dedication...but natty

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    its nice to be reminded what is achievable natty, stops you feeling like a failure for a bit
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    agree scott herman physique is attainable naturally, with good genetics, insertions etc. though
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    I agree OP, and I think it's sad how all these young guys who are just starting out are getting fooled by the con artists in the industry(the biggest of whom is Lame Nordstrom), to spend thousands of dollars on worthless supplements thinking they'll get huge. I believe Scott Herman is about as big you can get as a natty with average genetics, someone with good genetics might be able to add about 10 lbs to that, but that's it.

    IMO Scott looks great(no homo) and any person should be happy to look like that.
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    thats why natties have no business tracking macros. eat quality food, solid portion sizes, eat at least 100g protein a day, and enjoy the ride. no need to be anal over the exact grams of eat macro you eat
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    205lb 10% BF is attainable and maintainable naturally...a good amount of years training, at least 5-7, know your body and have good knowledge about nutrition. At least people at my height
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    I'm gonna come back to respond to you guys but I just wanted reiterate again... I did say that I was referring to those of us with AVERAGE TO JUST ABOVE AVERAGE dedication to the lifestyle. Brb eggs are burning.
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    I'll take that first physique any day of the week, op. And ain't even mad...
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    Originally Posted by SkinnyBeast24 View Post
    I'll prove you wrong. Herman has **** form on lots of his lifts taking away from his aesthetics anyways



    this is the real deal and yes he's natty as he's 27-28 now and been lifting for years...i will obtain these aesthetics
    Damn he looks good. I hope you reach your goals srs. I wasn't trying to put anyone down or anything, I just wanted some young lifters to get a better idea of what they can realistically expect.
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    I'll take that first physique any day of the week, op. And ain't even mad...
    Oh absolutely bro same here. Girls would flock, pussy would be slain.
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    Its not about what is achievable natty. It is about what you do when you are getting close to your natty potentional.
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    Originally Posted by Otroletravaladn View Post
    i always lol @ natty discussions. miscers set the bar way too low.
    Again I'll reiterate that I'm referring to the AVERAGE lifter who has AVERAGE TO MAYBE SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE dedication to the lifestyle. I agree that you can be bigger AND leaner than these guys natty, but not the average miscer who still has a life outside of the gym. Peace.
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    Originally Posted by SkinnyBeast24 View Post
    I'll prove you wrong. Herman has **** form on lots of his lifts taking away from his aesthetics anyways



    this is the real deal and yes he's natty as he's 27-28 now and been lifting for years...i will obtain these aesthetics
    I cringe at their channel, clearly a couple of drips trying too hard to have any likeable personality to make some of that youtube money. And their nutritional knowledge is laughable at best. Oh and they aren't natural
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    Natty checking in. My abs look like Marc Fitt's, but better. Hnnng.

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    Natty checking in. My abs look like Marc Fitt's, but better. Hnnng.

    My avi is from April. I've been bulking since. Got 8 more weeks, then into a cut phase!
    Hnnnng you look awesome dude no homo... Better than 95% of the male population.
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    A natty can't achieve a lot when it comes to aesthetics and being low bf, but can achieve a lot of size and strength. It is perfectly possible for me to be 15% bf at 265, and be strong as fukk. Why is it so important to be below 10%? Women don't care about that, you walk down the street 200lbs 10% and you might get some look, but the guy that is 265 15% park crowds.
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    That's about the best i could imagine getting. Note my avi isn't recent. Still a ways to go. Will I make it?
    Yes you will make it, we all will.
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    Originally Posted by MVHagey View Post
    I cringe at their channel, clearly a couple of drips trying too hard to have any likeable personality to make some of that youtube money. And their nutritional knowledge is laughable at best. Oh and they aren't natural
    Meh, 18 what do you know. They have a legit channel in my opinion and don't have freakishly insane physiques that most roid users would have. Guy has insane genetics but still been at it for 10 + years.

    They have some cool exercises that I've been using and definitely are fun to use instead of the same **** everytime as well as decent meals that I like to add...some of its basic **** but some of its not so idk.

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    Originally Posted by IngeKJ View Post
    A natty can't achieve a lot when it comes to aesthetics and being low bf, but can achieve a lot of size and strength. It is perfectly possible for me to be 15% bf at 265, and be strong as fukk. Why is it so important to be below 10%? Women don't care about that, you walk down the street 200lbs 10% and you might get some look, but the guy that is 265 15% park crowds.
    Actually I couldn't agree more. I'm perfectly content with being around 10%-11% bf and looking like I lift in clothes. Women really don't give a fuk. Muscles are muscles to them lol they don't ask how much you weigh or how much you lift lol
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    Probably would be doing well to look like bodybuilders from the early days like Steve Reeves. Even Steve actually took some gear though lol.

    I've heard time and time again that for 5'8" natty limit is around 175-185 lbs at 8% bodyfat, so that's my goal.
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    Originally Posted by Zerafian View Post
    205lb 10% BF is attainable and maintainable naturally...a good amount of years training, at least 5-7, know your body and have good knowledge about nutrition. At least people at my height
    came in to post this. one of my best friends is 5' 9, chillin at 10% bf at 205 lbs. he's bigger than scott herman, at least in the legs, with 18.5" arms. looks similar to you in your avi brah.

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    I got it from google images. Should I replace it with a different one?
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    Originally Posted by kwdchs07011 View Post
    came in to post this. one of my best friends is 5' 9, chillin at 10% bf at 205 lbs. he's bigger than scott herman, at least in the legs, with 18.5" arms. looks similar to you in your avi brah.

    so basically, us natural bros CAN make it
    Never said we couldn't bro! I just provided some examples of what the average natty gym rat can aspire to look like. Peace.
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