phil heath giving it to fans on instagram

[DPNZ]

It all comes down to Phil beating Kai last year. Really.

If Kai had won, and Phil wasn't number 1, every single one of these moaning knob's wouldn't give it a second thought.

But now look, 6 pages.

[Groggery]

It all comes down to Phil beating Kai last year. Really.

If Kai had won, and Phil wasn't number 1, every single one of these moaning knob's wouldn't give it a second thought.

But now look, 6 pages.

At this point i'd like it if Phil looks better at the O but they have Kai win, just to see if they'll go hyper retard/hypocritical.

[DPNZ]

At this point i'd like it if Phil looks better at the O but they have Kai win, just to see if they'll go hyper retard/hypocritical.

Was talking about this with Flang yesterday, I'd be more than happy to see Kai (or someone else) win this year, if nothing more than to keep things fresh.

[TTimmerman]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post906581233

ye about that, fukking hypocrite imo, like every song he ever downloaded/listened to was from a bought CD/itunes...

derp

[flangmasterj]

As I was saying to Tim yesterday, I'd like to see Kai win just to shut those people up who say he'll never win because of 'politics'.

In my mind if he clearly deserves the win, he'll win.

[Gorky88]

It all comes down to Phil beating Kai last year. Really.

If Kai had won, and Phil wasn't number 1, every single one of these moaning knob's wouldn't give it a second thought.

But now look, 6 pages.

It is the main factor, absolutely agreed.

In my opinion, main problem for me was him making these really weird faces going a little too aggressive for a comparison round and him stepping on the line.

I know its been 11 months and you are sick of hearing that and you might say deal with it but him stepping infront of the line was really annoying for me.

[Larfleeze]

At this point i'd like it if Phil looks better at the O but they have Kai win, just to see if they'll go hyper retard/hypocritical.

I'd be torn. On one hand it would be poetic justice for Kai after last year, but would be yet another step in the wrong direction as far as the judges and their bullsh*t go.

[RoroCwalker]

This. Ppl gettin their panties in a twist over nothing.

The irony is incredible.

[203mh]

It all comes down to Phil beating Kai last year. Really.

If Kai had won, and Phil wasn't number 1, every single one of these moaning knob's wouldn't give it a second thought.

But now look, 6 pages.

100% Agreed

[ROMMYromboid]

It is the main factor, absolutely agreed.

In my opinion, main problem for me was him making these really weird faces going a little too aggressive for a comparison round and him stepping on the line.

I know its been 11 months and you are sick of hearing that and you might say deal with it but him stepping infront of the line was really annoying for me.

THIS especially on the facial expression changes. Heath was so different from 2011 and yet had regressed in 2012, in 2011 it was an effortless victory, in 2012 it looked like Phil was trying to force the win. It makes me wonder if Phil has some kind of allergy to either any of his food or supps. I much prefered the 2011 Heath both physically and mentally. It will also be intresting to see how thick Phils neck is this year, IS there a trend? The thicker the neck the more aggressive he is?

[razmatazbaz]

I'd be torn. On one hand it would be poetic justice for Kai after last year, but would be yet another step in the wrong direction as far as the judges and their bullsh*t go.

you've turned into a massive fanny round here lately.


stinking up threads constantly with hyperbole and faux outrage.


Also poetic justice for what? he never won, was a close contest, there was actually no controversy except for people getting there knickers in a twist because Kai actually bought an amazing package to the Olympia for the first time yet so the fans went massively over board with everything from line crossing to Phil apparent ******* attitude. never knew people could be so precious. the man Doherty on another forum summed it all up perfectly.


also can't wait for on here this Olympia for more dramatics lol

[flangmasterj]

THIS especially on the facial expression changes. Heath was so different from 2011 and yet had regressed in 2012, in 2011 it was an effortless victory, in 2012 it looked like Phil was trying to force the win. It makes me wonder if Phil has some kind of allergy to either any of his food or supps. I much prefered the 2011 Heath both physically and mentally. It will also be intresting to see how thick Phils neck is this year, IS there a trend? The thicker the neck the more aggressive he is?

Shhh the grown ups are talking.

[wala]

I'd like to know if anyone knows what a soft batch punk is? And a fukin female puppy ass? Is it different to a fukin male puppy ass???

[K3VERZ]

I'd like to know if anyone knows what a soft batch punk is? And a fukin female puppy ass? Is it different to a fukin male puppy ass???

Female puppy/dog is known as a B!tch, so a "fukin B!tch ass" ?

[chenko]

As I was saying to Tim yesterday, I'd like to see Kai win just to shut those people up who say he'll never win because of 'politics'.

In my mind if he clearly deserves the win, he'll win.

what happens in your mind and what happens in IFBB reality are too very clear and distinct things

[shaf_nz]

This is an intriguing thread for me. Usually I can't be bothered logging in anymore, let alone posting, but considering I never really talk about Phil, here's my opinion (on everything):

- I'm a massive Kai fan, but Phil won last year fairly.
- He shouldn't have stepped over the line, but the judges should have controlled it more. Overall, Phil brought a better package, therefore this point is neither here nor there.
- He has the best physique in the open division currently until someone can prove otherwise. Maybe Kai can do that this year considering how close it was last year.

Now, onto something which is a bit more of a grey area. From the start I have stated and thought similar to Tim: He's overly PC and fake. I have always thought this but have looked past it because I'm here for the bodybuilding, not for the personalities.

Lately it seems Phil just doesn't seem to give a crap, or maybe, he's always given a crap but now has the balls to bite back. This has really torn me, because on the one hand NO champ in any pro sport should ever behave like this, but at the same time this is the real Phil. Raw as **** and he's got a nasty attitude when you push his buttons, which I like. The reason why I have ALWAYS rooted for Kai more than Phil is simple - bodybuilding is his everything. I don't care if that seems sad to some, Kai's passion always blows my mind and that's why I'm a fan. If Phil had the choice, he'd be the next Michael Jordan. If Kai had the choice, he'd be the next Ronnie. This is what seperates them for me, personally.

He's the champ and does what he wants, it's cool but it's not professional. Take it as it is.

[PillClinton]

lol

I still respect Phil for what he does (compete/won the O)

Could care less about his character and him being personable. Never inspired me personality-wise.

I think i'd be much more upset if Kai was a jerk.

[203mh]

On the "Undercover Pro" thread on the Blackstone Forums... whoever UCP is stated lately Phil's been a bit cocky and off-putting because Hany Rambod has been getting in his head...

Take that how you want it...

[TTimmerman]

I think i'd be much more upset if Kai was a jerk.

it would be like the day i found out santa claus wasn't real...

[Deano87]

He's just angry cos he's cutting and is low carb.

[Ajthemeso]

lol

I still respect Phil for what he does (compete/won the O)

Could care less about his character and him being personable. Never inspired me personality-wise.

I think i'd be much more upset if Kai was a jerk.

meh tbh i'd be kinda disappointed, but shawn ray is a perfect example. just mind boggling physique with a seemingly sh!t personality.

[planes12]

Sometimes we forget these guys are on a ton of drugs which would probably kill a regular person. Got to have some affect on their personalities.

[TheGame76]

Ahh dude I remember when this happened back in the day, I actually remember a lot of your posts inspiring me when I was starting on my journey, to see a jack3d/shredded/positive sick kunt.

Hope you're doing well now, repped for the memories (edit on r/c, will get).

To be honest, up until about a year ago I was a brosciencist who happened to work hard and have decent genetics. So any "help" i could have provided would have been misguided at best. I have engulfed myself with every bit of knowledge I can consume from Alan Aragon, Grey Cook, Lyle McDonald, Eric Cressy, Brett Contreas, etc. Basically trainers and nutritionists that sell books instead of BS or run stupid youtube channels because their work speaks for itself(I am aware all of these people can be found in videos but it is not their main focus or source of promotion as they spend their free time reading, writing, testing new concepts, etc)

[DPNZ]

This is an intriguing thread for me. Usually I can't be bothered logging in anymore, let alone posting, but considering I never really talk about Phil, here's my opinion (on everything):

- I'm a massive Kai fan, but Phil won last year fairly.
- He shouldn't have stepped over the line, but the judges should have controlled it more. Overall, Phil brought a better package, therefore this point is neither here nor there.
- He has the best physique in the open division currently until someone can prove otherwise. Maybe Kai can do that this year considering how close it was last year.

Now, onto something which is a bit more of a grey area. From the start I have stated and thought similar to Tim: He's overly PC and fake. I have always thought this but have looked past it because I'm here for the bodybuilding, not for the personalities.

Lately it seems Phil just doesn't seem to give a crap, or maybe, he's always given a crap but now has the balls to bite back. This has really torn me, because on the one hand NO champ in any pro sport should ever behave like this, but at the same time this is the real Phil. Raw as **** and he's got a nasty attitude when you push his buttons, which I like. The reason why I have ALWAYS rooted for Kai more than Phil is simple - bodybuilding is his everything. I don't care if that seems sad to some, Kai's passion always blows my mind and that's why I'm a fan. If Phil had the choice, he'd be the next Michael Jordan. If Kai had the choice, he'd be the next Ronnie. This is what seperates them for me, personally.

He's the champ and does what he wants, it's cool but it's not professional. Take it as it is.

Woah. Shaf!

[Helsing]

Phil = Mr Olympia = ambassador of the sport. Now would you picture Lee Haney taking like that to fans? No.

[JohnBobo]

Lol.

[flangmasterj]

Now would you picture Lee Haney taking like that to fans? No.

Far different these days with the Internet and social media.

You can't say for sure how someone would react.

[jaxdaddy44]

He is a bodybuilder not Miss America.. so what? people throw shots at him and he goin right back at him? why do you guys expect him to kiss the ass of those who disrespect him? I have met Phil.. he was cool to me.. probably cause i wasnt sittin there dissin him

[MikeK46]

..and considering he knows that he's a role model/idol/hero for many fans of him and BB'ing, he should think a little before acting like an immature & insecure child and perhaps not do so.

[MikeK46]

He is a bodybuilder not Miss America.. so what? people throw shots at him and he goin right back at him? why do you guys expect him to kiss the ass of those who disrespect him? I have met Phil.. he was cool to me.. probably cause i wasnt sittin there dissin him

Point is that he knows that he's a role model/idol/hero for many fans of him and BB'ing, and should think a little before acting like an immature & insecure child. Hell, even most of us probably wouldn't get our panties in a bunch over some kids talking trash on instagram or whatever.