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    Smile All pros cycle 1 heavy day I think i got it!

    Ok I know you guys see me ask the same questions over and over but running these routines and getting them down right ar important to me so here we go



    SQUAT [100]
    WARM UP BAR 45LBS 1X8
    WARM UP BAT 45LBS 1X8

    WORK SET 1X8 100
    WORK SET 1X8 100

    BENCH PRESS [85]
    WARM UP BAR 1X8
    WARM UP BAR 1X8

    WORK SET 1X8 85
    WORK SET 1X8 85

    BENT OVER ROW
    WARM UP BAR 1X8
    WARM UP BAR 1X8

    WORK SET 1X8 60
    WORK SET 1X8 60

    OVER HEAD PRESS
    1X8 55
    1X8 55


    SLDL
    1X8 95
    1X8 95

    CURLS
    1X8 45
    1X8 45


    Is this how all pros routine is done,am i right in this workout right it took 36 minutes
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    Too lazy to read the program, but if your hitting your volume on the lifts, or exceeding it- then I'm sure you're killing it.
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    Originally Posted by ChaseBOS View Post
    Too lazy to read the program, but if your hitting your volume on the lifts, or exceeding it- then I'm sure you're killing it.


    you mean your to lazy to read the program or am? if im doing it wrong i sure would like to know so if anyone would give me a read on it it would highly appreciated it and reps will be given!
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    Aren't the warmup sets supposed to be at 50% then 75% of your worksets? I'm pretty sure they are, but don't seem to be here.
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    With your worksets your only hitting 16 reps total. It might be working for you, but it doesn't seem like enough volume. I'd aim anywhere from 25-40 total reps for each exercise.
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    Originally Posted by davidolson22 View Post
    Aren't the warmup sets supposed to be at 50% then 75% of your worksets? I'm pretty sure they are, but don't seem to be here.

    the weight is so light it usually ends up bar weight for warm up
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    Originally Posted by banman83 View Post
    With your worksets your only hitting 16 reps total. It might be working for you, but it doesn't seem like enough volume. I'd aim anywhere from 25-40 total reps for each exercise.

    but is it the programs volume,or is it something im doing wrong for volume should i tweak it for more volume?
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    Originally Posted by ChaseBOS View Post
    Too lazy to read the program, but if your hitting your volume on the lifts, or exceeding it- then I'm sure you're killing it.
    Strong generic post.

    Originally Posted by davidolson22 View Post
    Aren't the warmup sets supposed to be at 50% then 75% of your worksets? I'm pretty sure they are, but don't seem to be here.
    Yes, but the program says if you're starting out too light, then the bar is sufficient for both warmup sets.

    Originally Posted by banman83 View Post
    With your worksets your only hitting 16 reps total. It might be working for you, but it doesn't seem like enough volume. I'd aim anywhere from 25-40 total reps for each exercise.
    Right, wrong, or indifferent, this is how the program is laid out. The number one rule preached is to not deviate from it unless you can't perform a lift, in which case you can try to find an alternate.

    Originally Posted by Brandon85c View Post
    but is it the programs volume,or is it something im doing wrong for volume should i tweak it for more volume?
    OP, you're following the program correctly. If you find the weights were too heavy, or too light during the first couple of weeks, then you can change them some. But don't go too heavy, because this program gets hard.

    In your spare time, read as much of the AllPro thread as you can. From your stats, I'm guessing you're trying to lose weight? This program works for that too. Keep at it.
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    Originally Posted by TungstenCarbide View Post
    Strong generic post.



    Yes, but the program says if you're starting out too light, then the bar is sufficient for both warmup sets.



    Right, wrong, or indifferent, this is how the program is laid out. The number one rule preached is to not deviate from it unless you can't perform a lift, in which case you can try to find an alternate.



    OP, you're following the program correctly. If you find the weights were too heavy, or too light during the first couple of weeks, then you can change them some. But don't go too heavy, because this program gets hard.

    In your spare time, read as much of the AllPro thread as you can. From your stats, I'm guessing you're trying to lose weight? This program works for that too. Keep at it.

    thanks TungstenCarbide for the helpful reply,now i know im doing it right yes im trying to lose weight and make strength gains because i never fully lifted before,so hopefully i will make gains,and whats a good sub for bent over row?
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    Originally Posted by Brandon85c View Post
    thanks TungstenCarbide for the helpful reply,now i know im doing it right yes im trying to lose weight and make strength gains because i never fully lifted before,so hopefully i will make gains,and whats a good sub for bent over row?
    I'm not a pro here, but you can do dumbell rows and t-bar rows. Sorry to pry, but why do you need an alternative?
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    Originally Posted by banman83 View Post
    With your worksets your only hitting 16 reps total. It might be working for you, but it doesn't seem like enough volume. I'd aim anywhere from 25-40 total reps for each exercise.
    Not this this ^^ its a beginners program keep the sets as written.

    Yes you have right. Warm up sets are as you say 25 and 505 of work weights

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    Tungsten is correct, but you should be asking this in the program's thread, you will get more specific answers instead of the mostly unrelated answers you got here.
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    Originally Posted by banman83 View Post
    With your worksets your only hitting 16 reps total. It might be working for you, but it doesn't seem like enough volume. I'd aim anywhere from 25-40 total reps for each exercise.
    On AP you hit everything three times a week. So the first week you are getting workset volume of 48 for each exercise. On week five you are getting 72 workset reps for each exercise. That is plenty.


    Originally Posted by Brandon85c View Post
    but is it the programs volume,or is it something im doing wrong for volume should i tweak it for more volume?
    Volume is plenty, see above.

    Progress for squat over the next year(10 cylcles), adding roughly 10% at the start of every cycle, all going well:


    110
    120
    135
    150
    165
    185
    205
    225
    250
    275

    You'd start the next cycle with 300!

    LONG before you get to squatting(to parallel) and stiff leg deadlifting(from the floor) three plates(315) x 8-12 reps, with a max in the region of four plates(405lbs)..........



    ........you'll be complaining that the volume, and tonnage(total reps x weight = total workload for the day) is way too high
    Beginners:

    FIERCE 5:

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=159678631

    Beyond novice, 5 3 1 or see above:)

    Unless it is obvious to anyone who isn't blind that you lift weights, you might still benefit from a little more attention to big basic barbell exercises for enough reps:).
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    Originally Posted by Brandon85c View Post
    but is it the programs volume,or is it something im doing wrong for volume should i tweak it for more volume?
    Do not tweek it for more volume. you'll get that by week 5.

    week 1 heavy day work set 100 lbs for 16 total reps is 1600 lbs moved in total
    week 5 heavy day work set 100 lbs for 24 total reps is 2400 lbs moved in total

    You're moving 800 lbs more 5 weeks later...the volume is fine.
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    Originally Posted by TungstenCarbide View Post
    I'm not a pro here, but you can do dumbell rows and t-bar rows. Sorry to pry, but why do you need an alternative?
    its just something about the lift i cant row right im either to high on my chest or hitting to low its like rowing a boat which i never done,but i just cant get form down after countless video watching
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    Try it with just the bar... you can get the form right then yes?

    Then increase the weight until you can no longer get all reps with correct form. Simple.
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