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    Fat Free Creamers Like Coffee Mate Fattening?

    Just curious. Trying to drop some more fat around the lower abs and my diet is already very clean but notice all sorts of stuff like corn syrup solids in coffee mate. doesn't sound too healthy.

    Any feedback is much appreciated. Thanks.
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    Not fattening, no.
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    if it puts you in a caloric surplus then yes its possible
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    Fat free creamer like coffee mate I think has 15 cal/tbsp, and half and half has 40 cal/ 2 tbsp... I make h&h and even some sugar fit my macros because I prefer it over the alternatives of coffee mate or black. You do realize that anything that puts you in excess is "fattening" regardless if its fat free or not (and of course it's your entire diet that matters, not one choice).
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    and fyi almost all creamers container trans fats
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    Thanks for the replies. They are much appreciated. I've decided just to keep it safe and go with unsweetened soy milk instead of the coffeemate. also dropped the morning protein shake (for now) and cut some yolks. just trying to cut that last bit of lower ab fat. I guess I need to get below 10% bf. then will do a moderate clean bulk. Thanks again.
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    Originally Posted by Gavin44 View Post
    Thanks for the replies. They are much appreciated. I've decided just to keep it safe and go with unsweetened soy milk instead of the coffeemate. also dropped the morning protein shake (for now) and cut some yolks. just trying to cut that last bit of lower ab fat. I guess I need to get below 10% bf. then will do a moderate clean bulk. Thanks again.
    Cutting fat won't make you lose fat unless it puts you in a deficit
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    Cutting fat won't make you lose fat unless it puts you in a deficit
    Thanks. yep I know. Just going from 6 whole eggs to 2 whole eggs and 1 cup egg whites..
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    Thanks. yep I know. Just going from 6 whole eggs to 2 whole eggs and 1 cup egg whites..
    Please dont.
    Eat the damn yolk.
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    Originally Posted by Gavin44 View Post
    Thanks for the replies. They are much appreciated. I've decided just to keep it safe and go with unsweetened soy milk instead of the coffeemate. also dropped the morning protein shake (for now) and cut some yolks. just trying to cut that last bit of lower ab fat. I guess I need to get below 10% bf. then will do a moderate clean bulk. Thanks again.
    If doing these measures allows you to reduce your caloric intake enough to be in a deficit and drop body fat, then you're on the right track.

    (As yummy as yolks are, for those with little calories to spare egg whites make a good substitute).
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    I love my yolks. I like the regular eggs better than Omega ones...unless organic Omega's but you know they say make small adjustments. so trying this for a couple weeks or so then probably will eventually go back to whole eggs and my morning protein shake to grow..

    also I think it is important to eat the right foods. not just about cals and macros.
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    Originally Posted by Gavin44 View Post
    I love my yolks. I like the regular eggs better than Omega ones...unless organic Omega's but you know they say make small adjustments. so trying this for a couple weeks or so then probably will eventually go back to whole eggs and my morning protein shake to grow..

    also I think it is important to eat the right foods. not just about cals and macros.
    Care to explain your point of view?

    What exactly are the right foods?
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    Originally Posted by SacramentoZach View Post
    Care to explain your point of view?

    What exactly are the right foods?
    I've noticed that the type foods make a huge difference in how our body reacts and uses the food. I eat clean/unprocessed foods. basically I would say the foods I eat are high performance foods or as some say clean foods. clean eating has definitely changed my life. I'm almost 45 and this is the first time I've seen my abs.
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    Originally Posted by Gavin44 View Post
    I've noticed that the type foods make a huge difference in how our body reacts and uses the food. I eat clean/unprocessed foods. basically I would say the foods I eat are high performance foods or as some say clean foods. clean eating has definitely changed my life. I'm almost 45 and this is the first time I've seen my abs.
    Oh ok. Just curious. Thanks.
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    Originally Posted by SacramentoZach View Post
    Oh ok. Just curious. Thanks.
    My current diet..around 2,000 cals on rest days going to around 2,500 on gym days. I think. Haven't recalculated it all yet..

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    1/2 CUP ONION
    1/2 TSP CHOPPED GARLIC
    PRE-WORKOUT MEAL:
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    1 SERVING GLUTEN FREE OATS
    1/2 CUP FRESH STRAWBERRIES
    POST-WORKOUT SHAKE:
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    DINNER: (SAME AS LUNCH)
    1 X MEGA MEN MULTI VITAMIN
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    Originally Posted by Gavin44 View Post
    My current diet..around 2,000 cals on rest days going to around 2,500 on gym days. I think. Haven't recalculated it all yet..

    BREAKFAST:
    2 X LARGE OMEGA 3 WHOLE EGGS
    1 X CUP EGG WHITES
    1 SERVING GLUTEN FREE OATS
    1/2 CUP FRESH STRAWBERRIES
    1 X MEGA MEN MULTI VITAMIN
    LUNCH:
    6-8 OZ BONELESS SKINLESS CHICKEN BREAST OR FISH
    3 OZ YAM
    STEAMED VEGETABLES
    1/2 CUP ONION
    1/2 TSP CHOPPED GARLIC
    PRE-WORKOUT MEAL:
    1 SERVING OF 100% WHEY PROTEIN
    1 SERVING GLUTEN FREE OATS
    1/2 CUP FRESH STRAWBERRIES
    POST-WORKOUT SHAKE:
    2 SERVINGS OF 100% WHEY PROTEIN
    1 MED BANANA
    DINNER: (SAME AS LUNCH)
    1 X MEGA MEN MULTI VITAMIN
    9PM MEAL:
    1 CUP UNSWEETENED SOY MILK
    2 SERVINGS OF 100% WHEY PROTEIN
    24-28 UNSALTED ALMONDS
    You're not bored with that?
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    Originally Posted by SacramentoZach View Post
    You're not bored with that?
    No actually been on this basically for 1 year. I don't have a sweet tooth or like junk food anymore and dont like using salt. I have a philly cheese steak sub for lunch without condiments once a week on fridays and on the weekends I might have a chocolate chip cookie. those are my treats..oh and a triple grande mocha from starbucks. lol
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    Originally Posted by Gavin44 View Post
    I eat clean/unprocessed foods. basically I would say the foods I eat are high performance foods or as some say clean foods. clean eating has definitely changed my life.
    You claim that "eating clean" means to you eating unprocessed foods and that doing so have changed your life (for the better I presume).

    Thus, my question is why do you eat processed foods five times per day (based on your diet quoted below)?

    Originally Posted by Gavin44 View Post
    My current diet..around 2,000 cals on rest days going to around 2,500 on gym days. I think. Haven't recalculated it all yet..

    BREAKFAST:
    2 X LARGE OMEGA 3 WHOLE EGGS
    1 X CUP EGG WHITES
    1 SERVING GLUTEN FREE OATS
    1/2 CUP FRESH STRAWBERRIES
    1 X MEGA MEN MULTI VITAMIN
    LUNCH:
    6-8 OZ BONELESS SKINLESS CHICKEN BREAST OR FISH
    3 OZ YAM
    STEAMED VEGETABLES
    1/2 CUP ONION
    1/2 TSP CHOPPED GARLIC
    PRE-WORKOUT MEAL:
    1 SERVING OF 100% WHEY PROTEIN
    1 SERVING GLUTEN FREE OATS
    1/2 CUP FRESH STRAWBERRIES
    POST-WORKOUT SHAKE:
    2 SERVINGS OF 100% WHEY PROTEIN
    1 MED BANANA
    DINNER: (SAME AS LUNCH)
    1 X MEGA MEN MULTI VITAMIN
    9PM MEAL:
    1 CUP UNSWEETENED SOY MILK
    2 SERVINGS OF 100% WHEY PROTEIN
    24-28 UNSALTED ALMONDS
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    Originally Posted by Gavin44 View Post
    My current diet..around 2,000 cals on rest days going to around 2,500 on gym days. I think. Haven't recalculated it all yet..

    BREAKFAST:
    2 X LARGE OMEGA 3 WHOLE EGGS
    1 X CUP EGG WHITES
    1 SERVING GLUTEN FREE OATS
    1/2 CUP FRESH STRAWBERRIES
    1 X MEGA MEN MULTI VITAMIN
    LUNCH:
    6-8 OZ BONELESS SKINLESS CHICKEN BREAST OR FISH
    3 OZ YAM
    STEAMED VEGETABLES
    1/2 CUP ONION
    1/2 TSP CHOPPED GARLIC
    PRE-WORKOUT MEAL:
    1 SERVING OF 100% WHEY PROTEIN
    1 SERVING GLUTEN FREE OATS
    1/2 CUP FRESH STRAWBERRIES
    POST-WORKOUT SHAKE:
    2 SERVINGS OF 100% WHEY PROTEIN
    1 MED BANANA
    DINNER: (SAME AS LUNCH)
    1 X MEGA MEN MULTI VITAMIN
    9PM MEAL:
    1 CUP UNSWEETENED SOY MILK
    2 SERVINGS OF 100% WHEY PROTEIN
    24-28 UNSALTED ALMONDS
    is that what you eat everyday?! looks boring

    lets see my meals today

    300g Breyers Girl Scout Samoas Cookies Ice Cream
    54g Chocolate Cherrios
    To night for dinner is Bacon and Cheese Stuffed Hamburgers

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    I like it. simple and works.
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    Originally Posted by Gavin44 View Post
    No actually been on this basically for 1 year. I don't have a sweet tooth or like junk food anymore and dont like using salt. I have a philly cheese steak sub for lunch without condiments once a week on fridays and on the weekends I might have a chocolate chip cookie. those are my treats..oh and a triple grande mocha from starbucks. lol
    More power to you, but as Pug said, there's a lot of processed foods in your meal plan i.e. protein powder.
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    More power to you, but as Pug said, there's a lot of processed foods in your meal plan i.e. protein powder.
    should I drop the protein powder? I'm trying to maintain 170 lbs..and get bf below 10%
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    Originally Posted by Gavin44 View Post
    should I drop the protein powder? I'm trying to maintain 170 lbs..and get bf below 10%
    What you don't seem to understand is the names of the foods you eat do not determine body composition nor does the fact a food is processed or whole.

    Why? It's because your body only sees nutrients -- not the names of foods or the labels you attach to foods.

    That's why your decision to arbitrarily define foods a "clean" and "dirty" doesn't work.
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    i dont get this meal plan if you goal is 10% BF why not eat other foods as well as these and stay in a caloric defecit? I am below 10% and maintain it easily and I eat ice cream for breakfast...come on man get your head out of the magazines
    Is wine not an essential macro?

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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    What you don't seem to understand is the names of the foods you eat do not determine body composition nor does the fact a food is processed or whole.

    Why? It's because your body only sees nutrients.
    I try to stay away from bread, pasta, sugar, flour, white potatoes, white rice etc.
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    I try to stay away from bread, pasta, sugar, flour, white potatoes, white rice etc.
    why?
    Is wine not an essential macro?

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    Originally Posted by cldillmann1 View Post
    i dont get this meal plan if you goal is 10% BF why not eat other foods as well as these and stay in a caloric defecit? I am below 10% and maintain it easily and I eat ice cream for breakfast...come on man get your head out of the magazines
    Well I'm almost 45 so got to eat as clean as possible.
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    Looks like you've gone out of your way to eliminate fat (an unhealthy idea, btw), then try to put a little back in w/ the almonds. If ye like cream in yer coffee, skip worrying about the CoffeeMate and just use some real cream.
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    Originally Posted by Gavin44 View Post
    Well I'm almost 45 so got to eat as clean as possible.
    Let me try to explain this very simply: the fact you call certain foods "clean" and certain foods "dirty" has absolutely no impact on the outcome of your diet or on healthy because your body doesn't use your words as nutrients. It uses the actual nutrients in the foods you eat.

    Anyway, I doubt you know what nutrients are in the foods you eat or the foods you avoid.
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