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    New Drug Policy for USA coming very soon (srs) (aboutphuckingtime)

    Attorney General Eric Holder is rumored to be proposing major reforms to drug sentencing in the coming weeks, and if a Wednesday interview with NPR is any indication, the changes could signal a pivot from the aggressive policies embraced by the Justice Department.

    "I think there are too many people in jail for too long, and for not necessarily good reasons," Holder said in the interview, turning from the department's highly criticized crackdown on drug law enforcement. As NPR noted, almost half of the people in federal prison are serving time for drug charges.

    "The war on drugs is now 30, 40 years old," he continued. "There have been a lot of unintended consequences. There's been a decimation of certain communities, in particular communities of color."

    Holder hinted in the interview that the changes could include better prioritization of federal law enforcement and shortened sentences for minor drug offenses. According to NPR, Holder could announce his proposal as early as next week in a speech to the American Bar Association in San Francisco.

    While Holder and the Obama administration have drawn criticism for publicly embracing a laissez-faire approach to marijuana laws but cracking down anyway, some observers believe this proposal for reform could be genuine.

    "The country is in a bipartisan moment [in regard to drug policy] that makes major criminal justice reform possible," Bill Piper, Director of National Affairs of the Drug Policy Alliance, told The Huffington Post. "You see it with bipartisan bills in Congress and bipartisan calls for sentencing reform. There's an opportunity that the administration realizes it can take advantage of, and I hope that they do."

    Indeed, bills like the Smarter Sentencing Act, which would lower mandatory minimums in sentencing, and the Justice Safety Valve Act, which would grant judges more leniency in imposing lesser sentences, were both introduced by bipartisan authors.

    Piper also hopes the time might be right to address federal recommendations for marijuana law enforcement.

    "They've been mentioning new recommendations on marijuana for the past year," said Piper. "They've been slow on it for certain, but that is undoubtedly connected to drug policy. This would be a good time to address both."


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    Cliffs: Attorney General Eric Holder's plane just landed in San Francisco where he's meeting with the American Bar Association. He will be giving a big speech Monday at 10:30 am from the Moscone Center. Expect MAJOR policy changes in the war on drugs and cannabis specifically.





















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    EDIT: After reading the article. it all just sounds like a massive publicity stunt. I don't think anything will change.
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    Originally Posted by tk217 View Post
    Yep.

    The only real reform is anti-prohibition.
    Agreed. I really hope they get rid of mandatory minimum sentences. I have a feeling that cannabis is going to be moved from Schedule 1 (extremely dangerous, no medical value) to hopefully, Schedule 3 very soon.
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    Harsher punishments will occur OR no changes will happen.

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    This is what I expect too. BRB we've damaged so many communities -- can we damage more?
      
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    inb4 and after cynical *******s that will criticize this no matter what

    this is great news.
    With the US Government, you HAVE to be cynical. All we can do is hope for the best really.
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    inb4 and after cynical *******s that will criticize this no matter what

    this is great news.
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    With the US Government, you HAVE to be cynical. All we can do is hope for the best really.
    this is the first step in the right direction
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    He is talking about your next door neighbor who had a great job, house and was a polite citizen who was thrown in jail for 20 years because he smoked a joint.
    20 years for smoking a joint? What law calls for 20 years?
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    Originally Posted by Tyler44 View Post
    When decent people get thrown in jail for 10yrs for smoking some pot and women who are convicted of abusing their children and crippling them, get 2-6yrs, there is something very wrong with our system.
    Did you hear about the 2 year old girl who was recently taken from her parents by CPS because they had pot in their house? Sent to live with a foster family and she was beaten to death by her new foster mother just a few weeks after.


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    Lol if you potheads think this will change anything. I can't believe anyone still believes anything a politician says.
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    Originally Posted by 0thersid3 View Post
    but I don't know one person in person who isn't a scumbag
    You have never met someone in real life who wasnt a scumbag? what a drag...


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    Originally Posted by Gladiator19 View Post
    20 years for smoking a joint? What law calls for 20 years?
    A backwards state.

    Like Oklahoma.

    in May 2011 the Governor of Oklahoma signed a bill that poses a potential life-sentence for possession (or manufacture) of hash, kief, edibles, or 4 part grinders.


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