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    Shawn rhoden is going to come in and blow you all away. Hes gonna give kai a run for his money for 2nd
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    let the best man win. no bias no crying.

    id love for jay to walk in with a jaw droping physique that would make me say ok he is going to win. but if he doesnt and its near marginal or hes not looking all that great then i hope he gets placed accordingly.

    kai is already falling into the dennis wolf category. great potential great physiques but have developed this reputation for not coming in on shape. "tell me what youve done lately" and kai hasnt done much.

    conditioning is what allows symmetry and overall size/muscle bellies be able to wow people.
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    Originally Posted by zrage View Post
    let the best man win. no bias no crying.

    id love for jay to walk in with a jaw droping physique that would make me say ok he is going to win. but if he doesnt and its near marginal or hes not looking all that great then i hope he gets placed accordingly.

    kai is already falling into the dennis wolf category. great potential great physiques but have developed this reputation for not coming in on shape. "tell me what youve done lately" and kai hasnt done much.
    ??kai just got 2nd last year wtf bro u went full retard
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    Originally Posted by zrage View Post
    let the best man win. no bias no crying.

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    Originally Posted by AnarkyLost View Post
    ??kai just got 2nd last year wtf bro u went full retard
    I think he meant that Kai, like Wolf, has a reputation of not being consistent when it comes to coming in condition...which is true.
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    Originally Posted by AnarkyLost View Post
    ??kai just got 2nd last year wtf bro u went full retard
    yeah kai got second, some stiff competition last year.. right...

    its easy to have your genetics carry your lack of conditioning when the people you are going against have so much more imperfections than you.

    with kai greens structure/size if he came in "on" hed beat phil heath so no hes never came in "on"

    how many years had kai been competing? how many years has his hype been let down over and over? he is just a waste of a perfect structure because he doesnt know how to manipulate his timing and conditioning.
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    Kai lacks conditioning?
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    Originally Posted by RoroCwalker View Post
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    Kai lacks conditioning?
    kai lacks the ability to bring in the perfect conditioning required to beat phil heath who has an inferior structure.

    u dont beat the champ unless you make the judges say WOW. or unless the champ comes in off. so its either an evident knock out or an evident mess up from the champs courner.

    "oh here comes kai he looks great, however holding some water lets see as the show progreesses"

    "oh here comes kai he looks tighter but flat"

    "oh here comes kai he looks to be getting alot better but we dont know of the earlier showings hurt him"

    kai gets 2nd,3rd or whatever. always coming in with issues never flawless
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    Originally Posted by zrage View Post
    yeah kai got second, some stiff competition last year.. right...

    its easy to have your genetics carry your lack of conditioning when the people you are going against have so much more imperfections than you.

    with kai greens structure/size if he came in "on" hed beat phil heath so no hes never came in "on"

    how many years had kai been competing? how many years has his hype been let down over and over? he is just a waste of a perfect structure because he doesnt know how to manipulate his timing and conditioning.
    dude, you havent been that active in the past 2 years. It is better if you stay that way. seriously, you dont know what you are saying and you seem to be living under a rock

    just go on youtube and write down kai greene olympia 2012 and kai greene sheru 2012 and educate yourself a little
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    Originally Posted by zrage View Post
    kai lacks the ability to bring in the perfect conditioning required to beat phil heath who has an inferior structure.
    No one in the line up has that skin texture, along with that level of separation and dryness combined since like Ronnie Coleman.

    "how many years has his hype been let down over and over? he is just a waste of a perfect structure because he doesnt know how to manipulate his timing and conditioning."

    this is just zrage of the old.

    Phil apart from not having the widest body on stage has the most complete, developed,proportionate of all. He is not lacking anything. Kai lacks traps and delts but has some other qualities which made him so competitive last year and believe me the conditioning wasn't one of them but it might be fullness maybe. Then again, that level of fullness that Phil achieved is very unique to him also.
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    Originally Posted by zrage View Post
    kai lacks the ability to bring in the perfect conditioning required to beat phil heath who has an inferior structure.
    Last year he had the conditioning required to beat Phil Heath.
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    Originally Posted by zrage View Post
    kai lacks the ability to bring in the perfect conditioning required to beat phil heath who has an inferior structure.

    u dont beat the champ unless you make the judges say WOW. or unless the champ comes in off. so its either an evident knock out or an evident mess up from the champs courner.

    "oh here comes kai he looks great, however holding some water lets see as the show progreesses"

    "oh here comes kai he looks tighter but flat"

    "oh here comes kai he looks to be getting alot better but we dont know of the earlier showings hurt him"

    kai gets 2nd,3rd or whatever. always coming in with issues never flawless
    I m not a Kai fan but saying his condition wasnt spot on in 2012 is unrealistic, really.
    He was off in 2010 and somewhat less conditioned than Heath/Cutler in 2011 but damn he did bring it in 2012
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    Kai brought it on Friday of last year, but was flat and looked tired on Saturday.
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    Last year he had the conditioning required to beat Phil Heath.
    So, why didn't he win?
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    Originally Posted by patbanya View Post
    So, why didn't he win?
    Not sure.

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    So, why didn't he win?
    Because we all conspired to make sure Roro gets pissed. Worked out perfectly.
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    Thanks Batman. Now back to Olympia talk.
    LOL his first post and that's what he came up with.

    I guess it's due to happen when it's Olympia week.
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    my prediction.

    Wont be surprised if phil wins....kulco for me is the dark horse.Someone mentioned kais conditioning letting him down..hopefully he drops a bit more weight..
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    am I the ONLY person who disagrees on Kais so called conditioning problems?

    dude has been absolutely SHREDDED the last few years in my opinion
    keep it simple, keep it basic, keep it heavy
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    Trying to figure out if he's going to be well-conditioned or not. I wish they would have shown his hamstrings or something because his face doesn't look super sunk-in or anything (maybe that comes with water manipulation?) and he said he's weighing a lot more...although there was some good vascularity around 3:00
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    Originally Posted by bballbrett5 View Post
    Trying to figure out if he's going to be well-conditioned or not. I wish they would have shown his hamstrings or something because his face doesn't look super sunk-in or anything (maybe that comes with water manipulation?) and he said he's weighing a lot more...although there was some good vascularity around 3:00
    Intressting that he say's he will come in bigger this year after the critique he got last year. Anyway 1-2 days and it will show on stage.
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    Originally Posted by jahaa View Post
    Intressting that he say's he will come in bigger this year after the critique he got last year. Anyway 1-2 days and it will show on stage.
    Probably bigger AND more conditioned
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    Originally Posted by sexnews View Post
    Probably bigger AND more conditioned
    it is simply not possible for him to be more conditioned...
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    Originally Posted by jahaa View Post
    Intressting that he say's he will come in bigger this year after the critique he got last year. Anyway 1-2 days and it will show on stage.
    I think more people will claim to weigh more simply because Big Ramy is guaranteed to turn a lot of heads. Like it or not, he's put the IFBB on notice, and no one is taking him lightly.
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