Road To Olympia THREAD ( All Mr O Athlete videos and pictures here )

[Big Slim DaDDy]

I saw the ''wide waist'' comment coming. Let's not confuse wide waist with having a full core. I may not have the right words for it but what I mean is that he looks incomplete, if you follow that perception and look at Phil's Hand Clasped MM, you'll understand what I mean.

He has a wide waist in that pose.

Incomplete as a perception?

From wiki

Perception (from the Latin perceptio, percipio) is the organization, identification, and interpretation of sensory information in order to represent and understand the environment.

2 people will not interpret incomplete the same so I can't use perception to see what you are seeing.

[sedrik]

That the wrong man won. This O was fixed as hell. That's my problem.

Really...the Mens O was the fairest out of all the categories imo,
Iris winning...
KE coming third....
But Phil won fair and square, he was more conditioned than everyone on stage. Kai missed his mark, and this is coming from a kai fan.

[jahaa]

I really like what kai did with his standard MM by putting his forearms behind his back. Looks awesome. it pops his weaker delts/traps out a bit more, hides his foreamrs and really accentuates his strengths

I actually posted a couple of times on here before the olympia that Kai should do that MM, so im guessing he lurks here and ill take credit for him pulling it of rather than it being a coincidence :P

[RoroCwalker]

Take a look at his crab for example ;


You see how the waist disappears? It gives a better look to the MM, a fuller, more compact look since it unifies the waist with the rest of the body and the width of his shoulders obviously surpasses his waist's, therefore, you're not even analysing his waist size any more.

Now his usual crab looks like this ;


In a way, the waist unifies with the whole body, giving the illusion that waist size doesn't matter because you can't see it's extremities.

Phil's crab makes him look less full, like something is missing.

Look at the difference ;

This is his usual crab.


Still in crab but less bent over, already making him look fuller.


Then, fully straight ;

[DanOsman]

That the wrong man won. This O was fixed as hell. That's my problem.

Dude what's wrong with you and that other Rorocrowalker...???
I mean, at this point it looks like the 2 of you are just playing a role, just rooting for Kai for the sake of it.......


Kai was bigger and yes, he was way TOO SOFT. Got it>? S O F T.

[RoroCwalker]

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Why post one picture of his BDB stand alone to prove this point?

[Hardbody316]

cannot stand how phil stand with his feet spread apart and legs like a frog to make his legs appear bigger

[PillClinton]

I actually posted a couple of times on here before the olympia that Kai should do that MM, so im guessing he lurks here and ill take credit for him pulling it of rather than it being a coincidence :P

Those pics are so damn beautiful I had to quote. Seriously that MM is amazing like that. Makes kais arms stand out like no other pose does. Also, REALLY like Shawn's MM here.

To a degree (headache incoming) i agree with roro that Phil's bent over crab isn't that great. It looks way better when he isn't leaning forward so much. His quads disappear (which is what he is prolly trying to do anyway, iunno). I'd like to see him hit a hand clasp or crab the they way dexter with one leg forward

[DanOsman]

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Why post one picture of his BDB stand alone to prove this point?

Oh my God.....
Perhaps because if your whole back, your glutes, your hammies and your calves look soft, it means that..... YOU ARE SOFT!

Jesus, sometimes I feel like talking to mentally challenged people.

[RoroCwalker]

Oh my God.....
Perhaps because if your whole back, your glutes, your hammies and your calves look soft, it means that..... YOU ARE SOFT!

Jesus, sometimes I feel like talking to mentally challenged people.

There's no need to be irritated, we're simply taking different positions.

As you can clearly see in the comparison pictures, Kai was not ''off'' or at least, ''off'' enough to be shut down completely like that.

[jahaa]

Those pics are so damn beautiful I had to quote. Seriously that MM is amazing like that. Makes kais arms stand out like no other pose does. Also, REALLY like Shawn's MM here.

Called it 3 months out.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...post1097450023

[RoroCwalker]

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It seems the prayers have been answered, hahaha!

[Big Slim DaDDy]

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In a way, the waist unifies with the whole body, giving the illusion that waist size doesn't matter because you can't see it's extremities.

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A wide waist is a wide waist. If a guy has a wide waist in a pose such as FDB people are gonna notice and same goes for any pose.

[DanOsman]

There's no need to be irritated, we're simply taking different positions.

As you can clearly see in the comparison pictures, Kai was not ''off'' or at least, ''off'' enough to be shut down completely like that.

All right, listen, I'm sure you are actually a nice guy in his teens who has a thing for Kai and to a certain extent I actually share that feeling cause he IS a tremendous bodybuilder, we all love him, but you have to accept his condition wasn't on par with Phil at this Olympia, point.

It's not like you see it in a way and we all see it differently, it's a matter of fact.

[Ajthemeso]

Called it 3 months out.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...post1097450023


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fukin wizard.

[RoroCwalker]

A wide waist is a wide waist. If a guy has a wide waist in a pose such as FDB people are gonna notice and same goes for any pose.

Indeed but you seem to have missed the point where I said, you cannot determine waist size or consider ratios when it's hidden.

All right, listen, I'm sure you are actually a nice guy in his teens who has a thing for Kai and to a certain extent I actually share that feeling cause he IS a tremendous bodybuilder, we all love him, but you have to accept his condition wasn't on par with Phil at this Olympia, point.

It's not like you see it in a way and we all see it differently, it's a matter of fact.

Unfortunately, I disagree. You may be blaming my brain for fooling me but that's what I'm seeing.

[FAN0FdaSport]

does it look full now?

[Big Slim DaDDy]

Indeed but you seem to have missed the point where I said, you cannot determine waist size or consider ratios when it's hidden.



Unfortunately, I disagree. You may be blaming my brain for fooling me but that's what I'm seeing.

If his arms are in front of his stomach you can't see his stomach? No $hit but the pic in question, his waist is showing.


If you really think Kai's conditioning was on par with Phil's You must have been watching a replay of 2012 and not this year's Olympia.

[RoroCwalker]

does it look full now?

[img]http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/25722/110/d/img_10751380348791.jpg[img]

In this picture, it seems better indeed.

If his arms are in front of his stomach you can't see his stomach? No $hit but the pic in question, his waist is showing.

If you really think Kai's conditioning was on par with Phil's You must have been watching a replay of 2012 and not this year's Olympia.

Yes, that's why I posted the 2012 and 2009 picture. In that particular picture, as I've said, he's not fully flexed but it doesn't better, I didn't find a picture in the set I was looking through where his MM was fully hit.

Let's start with some pre-judging pictures where I find Kai comparable in conditioning.

(Open all in new tabs for them to be much larger)

[Big Slim DaDDy]

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You have gone deep deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep into the potato dimension for using this to try and prove your point.

I'm honestly baffled if you can't see Phil's superior condition in the rest of the photos.

[DanOsman]

Unfortunately, I disagree. You may be blaming my brain for fooling me but that's what I'm seeing.

All right.
Just so you know, I appreciate (a lot) your staying calm and polite when arguing, that's rare out here.

[RoroCwalker]

You have gone deep deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep into the potato dimension for using this to try and prove your point.

Glutes/hamstrings/calves. Wasn't taking that for the back.

[Big Slim DaDDy]

Glutes/hamstrings/calves. Wasn't taking that for the back.

You really see equal conditioning in those areas?

[flangmasterj]

Roro his conditioning wasn't the same as Phil's. Both weren't amazingly conditioned but Phil's was better.

[RoroCwalker]

You really see equal conditioning in those areas?

There's a few things to take into count.
Kai has never had as much deep striations as Phil on the glutes but the conditioning itself is comparable.

Look here ;


Kai is in the middle of the camera (in the pre-judging picture) so he doesn't get the same shadowing effect Phil's glutes have, also, they pose differently, as you can see Kai's glutes are pushed outwards, Phil's glutes are flexed inwards.

Roro his conditioning wasn't the same as Phil's. Both weren't amazingly conditioned but Phil's was better.

[img]http://www.ultraimg.com/images/M0seH.gif[img]

Using this gif, yes, Phil seems more conditioned but it seems the gif is flawed since the side by side comparisons don't add up to this gif.

[ZBlacktt]

When looking at Phil:





When looking at Kai:






Both will be 1 and 2 for awhile. But Phil won both nights based on BBing judging criteria.

[Aguakate]

I like this Kai/Phil rivalry. Two very different dudes (in every possible way).

I hope it continues for a couple more years.

[FilmOfWater]

[flangmasterj]

Using this gif, yes, Phil seems more conditioned but it seems the gif is flawed since the side by side comparisons don't add up to this gif.

[sexnews]

cannot stand how phil stand with his feet spread apart and legs like a frog to make his legs appear bigger

Agree 100%