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    Is night time muscle catabolism a myth or reality based on scientific evidence?

    I've just read a ton of articles about night time catabolism. Some say its a myth. Some say its proven. Some say a slow digesting protein at night is an absolute must, others say thats just what the supplement companies want you to think, or that your body takes a long time to digest food anyways so your still digesting dinner throughout the night. I don't know what to believe.

    Very few of the many articles actually seem to reference scientific evidence. Is there any out there? Which way does the actual scientific evidence point?
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    Originally Posted by mxmaniac View Post
    I've just read a ton of articles about night time catabolism. Some say its a myth. Some say its proven. Some say a slow digesting protein at night is an absolute must, others say thats just what the supplement companies want you to think, or that your body takes a long time to digest food anyways so your still digesting dinner throughout the night. I don't know what to believe.

    Very few of the many articles actually seem to reference scientific evidence. Is there any out there? Which way does the actual scientific evidence point?
    If there was no catabolism how would they ever sell all their casein products?
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    Originally Posted by mxmaniac View Post
    Some say a slow digesting protein at night is an absolute must, others say thats just what the supplement companies want you to think, or that your body takes a long time to digest food anyways so your still digesting dinner throughout the night.
    Empirical data and scholarly studies have shown that casein is not needed, and nothing at night to keep your muscles. In fact, food is still being digested and is still in your bloodflow/body.

    An anedoctal example would be to take people under IF or Martin Berkham.
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    Oh noes I had whey protein before bed instead of casein, there goes all my gainz!




















    Never mind the 1200 calorie dinner I had an hour or two previous with 80g protein that's still digesting the next day
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    Originally Posted by SacramentoZach View Post
    If there was no catabolism how would they ever sell all their casein products?
    Exactly!

    And you've gotta keep your body digesting protein powder all night to maximise gains! (not srs)
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    Originally Posted by mxmaniac View Post
    I've just read a ton of articles about night time catabolism.
    What you read was really just very primitive attempts at marketing supplements to the naive.
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    The timing of your meals and your macronutrients does not matter. Just get them all in during your day at any time and they will benefit your diet

    If I had to eat 180g of protein in a day and I ate it all in the morning during my breakfast there would be no difference compared to eating 6 separate meals of 30g of protein in a day. Sure I will be hungry.... but phuq
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    inb4 wake up for food every three hours during the night to stoke the metabolic fire
    You're 5'11, 150 lbs and intimidated by that big guy over in the squat rack, squatting 4 times your body weight.
    Don't worry, his strength isn't valid if you can do more pullups than him, even though he weighs 100lbs more than you.

    Skinny guy logic
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    Originally Posted by PowerHaus19 View Post
    The timing of your meals and your macronutrients does not matter.
    This is, of course, not true.

    Meal timing, meal frequency and meal composition are largely irrelevant in terms of their direct effect on body weight and composition, but all three factors can have a significant indirect impact by affecting energy, performance, satiety, palatability, convenience, recidivism, etc.
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    Originally Posted by mxmaniac View Post
    I've just read a ton of articles about night time catabolism. Some say its a myth. Some say its proven. Some say a slow digesting protein at night is an absolute must, others say thats just what the supplement companies want you to think, or that your body takes a long time to digest food anyways so your still digesting dinner throughout the night. I don't know what to believe.

    Very few of the many articles actually seem to reference scientific evidence. Is there any out there? Which way does the actual scientific evidence point?
    Yes Op it's true, catabolism is happening throughout the night.....just as it is throughout the day......as it is always happening!

    Good news for you anabolism is also happening! Clearly that's the case because you're still here!! The trick to adding or increasing the size of skeletal muscle is to try and have net anabolism vs catabolism! Training and proper diet can help with that!

    So you see what actually matters is your training and your overall diet. That in itself is difficult enough, stop trying to engage in microbiology/physiology, it's only causing your cortisol to elevate and create more catabolism!!
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    Originally Posted by PowerHaus19 View Post
    The timing of your meals and your macronutrients does not matter.
    I'm confused? Poor wording or do you actually mean that your macronutrients are irrelevant?
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    Inb4 'largely irrelevant'

    Oh wait
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