Homemade pre-workout??

[JMarsh1217]

Haven't tried using them before, as I usually have a fat cup of black coffee in the morning and enough energy to last my workout, but was interested in seeing if a little pre-workout would give me an extra boost to help break some plateaus.

Would rather do it homemade cause it's definitely cheaper and it seems like I can get the main ingredients in them pretty easily, does this mix sound decent to anyone? Anything I should add?

2.5g creatine mono
1g taurine
5.2g BCAA
2g beta-alanine

Thanks in advance!

[Dewey99]

Haven't tried using them before, as I usually have a fat cup of black coffee in the morning and enough energy to last my workout, but was interested in seeing if a little pre-workout would give me an extra boost to help break some plateaus.

Would rather do it homemade cause it's definitely cheaper and it seems like I can get the main ingredients in them pretty easily, does this mix sound decent to anyone? Anything I should add?

2.5g creatine mono
1g taurine
5.2g BCAA
2g beta-alanine

Thanks in advance!

Creatine and Beta alanine can be taken any time of day. Taurine and BCAA's probably aren't going to do much for you in the gym.

[stan47islav]

look at citrulline, agmatine, cop, lclt

[Codestar02]

caffeine

[JMarsh1217]

Interesting!

The only issue is that I've read in an article on here that pro-longed use of a high dose of beta-alanine without also supplementing with taurine may lead to health issues if it's not cycled, it won't let me post the link on here but it's easily found if you google beta-alanine. The article is experts guide to beta-alanine.

And considering your answer, any advice on a good pre-workout? Preferably something homemade as stated?

[JMarsh1217]

caffeine

Caffeine already taken care of... I drink a good size cup of coffee in the morning, and don't think I need more than I get.

[Dewey99]

Interesting!

The only issue is that I've read in an article on here that pro-longed use of a high dose of beta-alanine without also supplementing with taurine may lead to health issues if it's not cycled, it won't let me post the link on here but it's easily found if you google beta-alanine. The article is experts guide to beta-alanine.

And considering your answer, any advice on a good pre-workout? Preferably something homemade as stated?

I am not saying that you shouldn't take creatine or BA. I was just saying that they don't need to be taken pre-workout.

For a homeade pwo, I would go with something like this:

Caffeine (200-300 mgs)
Citrulline - 6-8 grams
LCLT - 2 grams
COP - 500 mg

[JMarsh1217]

I am not saying that you shouldn't take creatine or BA. I was just saying that they don't need to be taken pre-workout.

For a homeade pwo, I would go with something like this:

Caffeine (200-300 mgs)
Citrulline - 6-8 grams
LCLT - 2 grams
COP - 500 mg

Oh no! I completely understood what you meant. I have been taking 5g of creatine daily for a few weeks now either way, and I know it can be at anytime of the day as well. I haven't used BA at all yet so finding that out was interesting as well. I'll check out the supplements you guys mentioned and see if I like what I read.

Thanks for the help!

[xxx_jfb_xxx]

You can find those ingredients and more in a lot of preworkouts and it would taste a lot better and be dosed accordingly. Try your coffee with HemaVol or Body Forge.

[aaronuconn]

Creatine and Beta alanine can be taken any time of day. Taurine and BCAA's probably aren't going to do much for you in the gym.

Taurine pre-workout is a very nice choice, under-rated.

[JMarsh1217]

You can find those ingredients and more in a lot of preworkouts and it would taste a lot better and be dosed accordingly. Try your coffee with HemaVol or Body Forge.

Seems like it, I just wanted to be a little more cost effective.

Thanks!

[JMarsh1217]

Taurine pre-workout is a very nice choice, under-rated.

That's why I wanted to check it out, I've read quite a few articles on it.

[xxx_jfb_xxx]

Seems like it, I just wanted to be a little more cost effective.

Thanks!

Haha, I tried the same thing to be honest and after a month of choking down sour tasting ingredients I decided paying a little more for something that tasted decent was worth it. Good luck!

[quank]

Creatine and Beta alanine can be taken any time of day. Taurine and BCAA's probably aren't going to do much for you in the gym.

wow, thanks for the info on how Taurine and Bcaa's would possibly affect me in the gym. i had 3 tubs of MuscleTech Amino Build in my cart ready to be ordered next time i get my check. thanks for saving me money by not ordering this product.


http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mu...ino-build.html

[nooblifter93]

What is COP? I haven't seen this listed on home made preworkout lists before.

[xxx_jfb_xxx]

wow, thanks for the info on how Taurine and Bcaa's would possibly affect me in the gym. i had 3 tubs of MuscleTech Amino Build in my cart ready to be ordered next time i get my check. thanks for saving me money by not ordering this product.


http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mu...ino-build.html

You would be better off buying protein & getting your aminos that way.

[JMarsh1217]

Haha, I tried the same thing to be honest and after a month of choking down sour tasting ingredients I decided paying a little more for something that tasted decent was worth it. Good luck!

Thanks bro!

[Dewey99]

wow, thanks for the info on how Taurine and Bcaa's would possibly affect me in the gym. i had 3 tubs of MuscleTech Amino Build in my cart ready to be ordered next time i get my check. thanks for saving me money by not ordering this product.


http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mu...ino-build.html

I am just being honest in saying that I don't believe either of those (or both together) was going to provide the OP with the extra boost to break through some plateaus as he was hoping.

I supplement with Taurine myself and only use BCAA's before fasted workouts. No need other times of the day in my opinion. I was trying to find ingredients that would provide the OP with a noticeable difference in the gym.

[SurfChris]

look at citrulline, agmatine, cop, lclt

This! I use two of my espresso cups with orange juice, so about 2oz each... and 3g of citrulline malate in each. I've tried plenty of pre-workouts, and I like this way better, plus no jitters, no crashing, no side effects no nasty ass flavors sticking in your stomach making you feel like your gonna vomit while working out especially abs lol, plus citrulline or malate version is just plain good for you in general. I have a real espresso machine and grinder at my house too, not some junk little store thing, setup is about 1k which is low end for real espresso, and fresh roasted beans. So I make a iced coffee or double shot with my meal about 1 1/2 in advance anyway, but caffeine doesn't have an effect on me, maybe it does, as if I don't get my coffee I feel agitated all day haha.

Sometimes I add like 4g of real Maca powder but usually forget, and take that with a snack or meal later. I will say after sticking with CM and Maca for awhile now, you just feel great overall, no fake effect that only last a short while like premade preworkouts. Just solid feeling every day all day long. And even if you don't have a problem with libido etc, you'll notice it up even more after a few consistant weeks.

Mesomorph was the only preworkout I've ever liked, but god the taste would come up as burps or that little throw up feeling in the gym when doing abs or squats or dumbell rows for me. Same for other preworkouts. Citrulline Malate is sour as ****, but once down that's it, doesn't irritate you or anything, taste a superman version of a sour patch kid in liquid form in orange juice lol

[JMarsh1217]

I am just being honest in saying that I don't believe either of those (or both together) was going to provide the OP with the extra boost to break through some plateaus as he was hoping.

I supplement with Taurine myself and only use BCAA's before fasted workouts. No need other times of the day in my opinion. I was trying to find ingredients that would provide the OP with a noticeable difference in the gym.

Thanks again, I appreciate all the help!

[JMarsh1217]

This! I use two of my espresso cups with orange juice, so about 2oz each... and 3g of citrulline malate in each. I've tried plenty of pre-workouts, and I like this way better, plus no jitters, no crashing, no side effects no nasty ass flavors sticking in your stomach making you feel like your gonna vomit while working out especially abs lol, plus citrulline or malate version is just plain good for you in general. I have a real espresso machine and grinder at my house too, not some junk little store thing, setup is about 1k which is low end for real espresso, and fresh roasted beans. So I make a iced coffee or double shot with my meal about 1 1/2 in advance anyway, but caffeine doesn't have an effect on me, maybe it does, as if I don't get my coffee I feel agitated all day haha.

Sometimes I add like 4g of real Maca powder but usually forget, and take that with a snack or meal later. I will say after sticking with CM and Maca for awhile now, you just feel great overall, no fake effect that only last a short while like premade preworkouts. Just solid feeling every day all day long. And even if you don't have a problem with libido etc, you'll notice it up even more after a few consistant weeks.

Mesomorph was the only preworkout I've ever liked, but god the taste would come up as burps or that little throw up feeling in the gym when doing abs or squats or dumbell rows for me. Same for other preworkouts.

Wish I had the espresso machine at home lol luckily I live in an Italian neighborhood and there's a few good cafes/bakeries around if I get the urge for it.

Thanks for the info also!

[quank]

I am just being honest in saying that I don't believe either of those (or both together) was going to provide the OP with the extra boost to break through some plateaus as he was hoping.

I supplement with Taurine myself and only use BCAA's before fasted workouts. No need other times of the day in my opinion. I was trying to find ingredients that would provide the OP with a noticeable difference in the gym.

ok, i gotcha. i removed all 3 tubs from the cart and will look into spending my money on something else. thanks again.

[healthandfit32]

Coffee isn't going to give the same boost as a pre-workout. The reason is because the how it is metabolized would be different then a high potency extract of coffee or caffeine anhydrous. The quicker release will stimulate brain chemicals and not just have an effect on ATP - which is the stimulant effect you feel from coffee mainly. You still get that with quicker caffeine but you stimulate adrenaline more so with a bigger boost.

I don't know that your method is actually cheaper. Definitely not convenient. Like others have said it's not necessary to take all that pre-workout but it wouldn't hurt. Look at Controlle Labs pre and intra namely White Flood Reborn and Wraath. For creatine look at Green Mag. See if on BB.COM it doesn't meet your pricepoint going by servings etc. Top quality. You don't have to worry about the quality of the powders you would have to buy. Fantastic energy blend and no need to worry about trying to be a formulator. The formulation is what you pay a little more for which makes sense. The guesswork is taken out of the equation. Also, you don't have to think about taking more or less of a specific ingredient. More is not better and less is not more - I have done what you are considering of doing and I didn't get any better results. Plus my flavoring was bitter b/c i drank it with no juice (xtra sugar) and it was disgusting on a daily basis. Plus the flavor was so bad I can't imagine what the PH of it all was - not that it matters much - i dunno.

It's your body and nothing like taking care of yourself. Look at it that way. Just don't spend the extra money on stupid stuff. Take care of your health first b/c your putting time in the gym etc. I rather cut costs elswhere. Hell why spend all that time in the gym and eat right and then try and be cheap and buy powders to make a cocktail that you don't even know for sure is going to do it's job. Plus coffee pre workout sucks. There is other stuff other then natural caffeine in White Flood Reborn. The creatine is seperate which makes sense b/c you might not want to be on creatine for months. It's a formula as well with volumizers and tastes great. Splurge a little and maybe walk to the gym and save on gas. Just an idea. You won't have to do cardio. Ha ha.

[quank]

Look at Controlle Labs pre and intra namely White Flood Reborn and Wraath.

there are better options out there other than Purple Wraath. it taste good, but that's about it.

[stan47islav]

What is COP? I haven't seen this listed on home made preworkout lists before.

Creatinol-O-Phosphate
helps with endurance
and it's not creatine as some people can confuse it

[gym_issue]

Looks like you need some citrulline malate! It as been shown to improve muscular endurance and decrease DOMS post-exercise. 8 grams taken pre-workout should do the trick.

[Quadzilla99]

quank has no regard for human life