I think this thread should only be about Bostin saying that Dallas sytnhols his glutes. Because that's about the most outlandish and hilarious thing I've ever heard in regards to bodybuilding. It just can't be true, right? RIGHT? srs
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07-22-2013, 06:00 AM #61"that guy is like a damn unicorn" -Evan Centopani on Mamdouh Elsbiay
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07-22-2013, 06:02 AM #62
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07-22-2013, 06:05 AM #63
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07-22-2013, 06:08 AM #64
Cool info man. Honestly I can only talk about guys I know who are on, and who train like animals, and have always worked hard, who do get offended when it's just put down to "oh they're on drugs". That's really all I can say about the subject, and that's my theory as to why some guys maybe get upset like that one poster above asked about (although I've never heard a pro get upset being accused of use, but whatever).
As for how hard pros work. I would hope nobody here is stupid enough to think that drugs aren't in the number one position when it comes to results. Genetics second. Probably enough of us know regular gym rats who are on amounts that we aren't allowed to write about here, that are nearer the numbers 5/6/7 per week than the numbers 1 and 2, and aren't anywhere near as developed as any pro, no matter how hard they work. So I'm not trying to be naive about it.
That's all I wanna say about it really. I think things would be different if celltech didn't exist in terms of who would be winning and who wouldn't even make it. I don't really buy into the belief that any of the top pros would look like **** though if it didn't exist, simply from a genetic point of view if anything else. And I honestly think that a lot of them do work harder than your average bb.com goer at the very least, lol, at least in my fantasy world.
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07-22-2013, 06:39 AM #65
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07-22-2013, 07:14 AM #66
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07-22-2013, 07:17 AM #67
With this "scandal" Bostin is just adding more publicity for Dallas and his habits. It's like accusing an addicted porn "star" that she's looking desperately to sell herself to fund the drug use. The only real thing that's going to happen is that even more men will be willing to pay her by the hour.
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07-22-2013, 07:59 AM #68
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07-22-2013, 10:41 AM #72
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I see your point and I do agree when somone who does not know anything about training bodybuidlings says steroids to a big guys it is belittleing, is like someone saying to a natural 'pfft,high protein diet, creatine,glutamine, caffine makes you look that way you dont work hard''
watching this video just made me feel like the guy in ''bigger stronger faster''
If boston is right and it is just 'chemical warfare' it makes competitive BB'ing seem really messed up, ppl probably like to hear these things, they certainly like to talk/see about paul dillet turning into a statue and other messed up stuff that happens.
the pros that do say ''its 60% diet, 30%training and 10% celltech'' are probably saying that, because society is like ''sports tech supplements are bad''
but I also think they say it because they like to take all the credit and dont like to admit its not all 'themselves' making there bodies look like that, its must be an ego thing.
meh its all the governments fault for making juice illegal in the first place. I really do wonder what the REAL reason is for why juice's are illegal and not researched more. I hope in my lifetime someone challenges the law/politicians and succeeds.Last edited by dom1987; 07-22-2013 at 11:03 AM.
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07-22-2013, 12:40 PM #73
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Props to bostin loyd for exposing the lie that is pro bb. No matter how good your diet and training without aas you cant go pro. Having 20 to 30 times the normal amounts of test in your system along with gh igf1 insulin mgf peptides synthol enormous amounts of food n training turn ppl pro. Nobody becomes pro cuz of theyre syntha 6 shakes n creatine. Jus sayn
**** jus trying to make my dream a reality
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07-22-2013, 01:21 PM #74
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07-22-2013, 01:57 PM #75
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07-22-2013, 02:09 PM #76
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07-22-2013, 02:14 PM #77
Hmm, kids should focus more on nutrition and recovery before the gear eh? So as to not have unfortunate accidents from inexperienced folks?
Sure, let me spread equally as idiotic info about that as i do about the importance of gear.
Brb eat 50 times a day, no carbs after 6PM, sleep 15 hours a day, drink your vitamins etc.
All i'm saying is, if you're going to weasel your way out of an argument, make sure the other side of reality is actually true to your claim.People these days have more reps than brain cells
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07-22-2013, 03:30 PM #78
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07-22-2013, 04:39 PM #79
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07-22-2013, 06:53 PM #80
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07-22-2013, 07:00 PM #81
There is still a lot of very sheltered people who follow bodybuilding, be it they don't want to believe the truth or just haven't been around long enough to know better. Not calling anyone out or anything but there are a lot of pro's who are known for being very casual with their intensity in the gym, Dillet comes to mind also wolf. I'll get flamed and abused for saying that but the truth hurts, 60% drugs, 30% diet, 10% training and even that 10% is a stretch. It's frowned upon to talk about actual events but I can attest to those numbers from personal experience, I'm not a pro sure but I do compete in open class and in 6 weeks will be on stage around 245-250 under 5% and have only just started to clean my diet up this week coming down from a fat 285+. Take that as you want, call me full of chit or whatever but I have walked a little of the walk and like to think I try to not bullchit people
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07-22-2013, 07:06 PM #82
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07-22-2013, 07:14 PM #83
Dallas should learn the dangers of throwing stones whilst living in glass houses. Dallas should just shut the **** up and move on; replying back and forth to Boston will only create a ****storm of frienzied internet ground and pound.
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- Charles Bukowski (1920-1994)
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07-22-2013, 08:30 PM #84
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07-23-2013, 04:56 AM #85
I think we are on the same page man I agree with you. My point was more that "regular guys" shoudln't undercut themselves whether they are regular gym juicers or natural. Those guys work hard...many work harder than pro's. It's just a fact...you may work harder than many pro's...I know I do...I know many naturals who do.
It makes me sad when people undercut themselves and think "dang I just need to work harder and I'll be like a pro". Usually the "working harder" is not the problem.
I've been around guys like mike francois who pack all their food...do everything right...I mean 100%...and train like crazed animals. I've also been with a top NPC competitor who was making fun of the "bodyubilding.com" group as he put it for thinking top bodybuilders care about diets and macros and packing lunches.
he was slamming mcdonalds breakfast...never prepared meals...ate whatever he wanted...turned pro 4 weeks later.
It's not that all pro's are "bad" or do g4p it's just that they are not so much better than regular guys who are dedicated to getting big. In fact most true naturals I know are FAR more disciplined and harder working than the pro's I've been around...outside a select few like Mike Francois.
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07-23-2013, 04:58 AM #86
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07-23-2013, 05:03 AM #87
it can be anything. For most it involves nude picture tailored to the gay community. That is the starting point and it goes from there. Most pro's I've spoken to and from seeing things first hand many agree 50%+ do some sort of homoerotic pictures and really that isn't that big of a deal. Probably 10-20% don't do anything, another 10% or so strip and to "personal shows", and then you have the small group who take anal poundings, butt blugs, and a*s gaping videos...basically use your imagination.
It's an ongoing joke at the arnold because there are a bunch of rich guys who show up in limo's who are rich as hell. They'll pay for pro's to go home with them and do things from watching them naked, watching them masturbate, up to and including anal sex and blowing them.
g4p can be literally be as little as going home with a gay dude and standing there with your posing trunks on while they masturbate. You don't ever get naked or get touched you just stand there.
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07-23-2013, 05:50 AM #88
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