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    I think this thread should only be about Bostin saying that Dallas sytnhols his glutes. Because that's about the most outlandish and hilarious thing I've ever heard in regards to bodybuilding. It just can't be true, right? RIGHT? srs
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    Originally Posted by PEETcassidy View Post
    I couldn't care about the steroids but the synthol and especially the gay stuff I've read in this thread makes me sick to my stomach. I'm actually disgusted....
    Hes the younger generation of bodybuilders . Potential future Mr.O and he does gay4pay and openly discusses cycle usage / def not a positive image for bodybuilding as a whole.
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    Originally Posted by Flex500 View Post
    lots of people are hard workers...and quite honestly not all pro's work that hard. They are not in love with lifting and work hard like kai, or amateurs like dusty. I think a lot of peoples bubble would be burst if you saw a true drug protocol and what lifting is life with your everyday pro. Out of all the pro's or top amateurs I have seen workout or workout with (probably well over 100 if you include being in the same gym) here is the list of the ones that I think genuinly work harder than most at a "pro" level.
    Thanks for your insight, very interesting.
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    Originally Posted by Flex500 View Post
    lots of people are hard workers...and quite honestly not all pro's work that hard. They are not in love with lifting and work hard like kai, or amateurs like dusty. I think a lot of peoples bubble would be burst if you saw a true drug protocol and what lifting is life with your everyday pro. Out of all the pro's or top amateurs I have seen workout or workout with (probably well over 100 if you include being in the same gym) here is the list of the ones that I think genuinly work harder than most at a "pro" level.


    Mike Francois
    Dave Dearth
    Nasser
    Ronnie Coleman
    Kai


    is there more? Probably...but workout after workout from vegas to CA, to right here in columbus so many bodybuilders training and pretty much most train at the same level of any normal gym rat. I've seen almost all of the regular top 10 olympia guys train in person and I actually can't think of one where a "normal guy" who wants to get big would think "holly sh*t I see why they are a pro they take it to an entire other level wow that is so extreme".


    the sport does not work like the superficial, puppy dogs and pancakes, bodybuilding.com version
    Cool info man. Honestly I can only talk about guys I know who are on, and who train like animals, and have always worked hard, who do get offended when it's just put down to "oh they're on drugs". That's really all I can say about the subject, and that's my theory as to why some guys maybe get upset like that one poster above asked about (although I've never heard a pro get upset being accused of use, but whatever).

    As for how hard pros work. I would hope nobody here is stupid enough to think that drugs aren't in the number one position when it comes to results. Genetics second. Probably enough of us know regular gym rats who are on amounts that we aren't allowed to write about here, that are nearer the numbers 5/6/7 per week than the numbers 1 and 2, and aren't anywhere near as developed as any pro, no matter how hard they work. So I'm not trying to be naive about it.

    That's all I wanna say about it really. I think things would be different if celltech didn't exist in terms of who would be winning and who wouldn't even make it. I don't really buy into the belief that any of the top pros would look like **** though if it didn't exist, simply from a genetic point of view if anything else. And I honestly think that a lot of them do work harder than your average bb.com goer at the very least, lol, at least in my fantasy world.
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    Originally Posted by transformerchad View Post
    Unfortunately bodybuilding has so many negative misconceptions , people seem to confuse the average gym rats way of life to the life of a pro .

    The minute a guy has muscle mass its assumed he takes Aas , and the only reason he looks like that is because of aas . There is way more to being a pro than a good old shake up of cell-tech and lots of food.
    They aren't misconceptions if they are true.

    The funny part is, most people don't know the half of it.
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    What does g4p involve? Obviously i have an idea using my imagination but you guys who actually know can you tell me?
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    With this "scandal" Bostin is just adding more publicity for Dallas and his habits. It's like accusing an addicted porn "star" that she's looking desperately to sell herself to fund the drug use. The only real thing that's going to happen is that even more men will be willing to pay her by the hour.
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    I find it quite fascinating what supplements people are taking. I like Bostin and his honesty, hopefully it doesn't land him in any trouble in the future. Everyone knows its a shady industry, but i like hearing the details because nobody talks about it on this website due to rules etc.
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    Originally Posted by PEETcassidy View Post
    I couldn't care about the steroids but the synthol and especially the gay stuff I've read in this thread makes me sick to my stomach. I'm actually disgusted....
    A lot of pros use synthol, even Shawn Rhoden.
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    Originally Posted by lancs_hotpot View Post
    What does g4p involve? Obviously i have an idea using my imagination but you guys who actually know can you tell me?
    Flex for money on webcam, stroke cawk on webcam, strip for rich gay guys, let rich gay guys zuck your dink etc.
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    Originally Posted by JanesLastResort View Post
    Flex for money on webcam, stroke cawk on webcam, strip for rich gay guys, let rich gay guys zuck your dink etc.
    Can sort of understand a bit of flashing, but a nosh? Dirty b****rds.
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    Originally Posted by JackOo View Post
    ^ I don't mean this reply as an attack or anything, just to answer your question.

    Your response is EXACTLY why they get offended. The implication is basically without gear these guys wouldn't even be the same size as half the people in the misc. Obviously without super supps no one would look the way they do, but you're essentially belittling, and putting into question all the effort they put into their training and their contest preps.

    I mean just watch this vid of Kai Greene preping for the 2010 Olympia:
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x10...t#.Uez7oY3xqbo

    Can you honestly watch that and claim it's all drugs, the effort he's putting in there has got nothing to do with it? Dunno about you but I rarely see people work themselves that hard in the gym.

    It's hot as **** here in the Netherlands right now. I was just walking about town with a buddy who's a fitness model. He's decently big, not exactly IFBB pro level or anything. He was wearing a tank, like everyone else, but he has to listen to every passer by with 12 inch arms and pants hanging off their ass say "roids" under their breath.

    It must hurt to hear that, because the dude works hard, he's been training since he was 13. Never misses sessions, always has his diet in check. Yeah he uses, but he was big and in shape before he ever touched stuff. I get why people get angry and why it's degrading to hear some ******* who's never put effort into anything, let alone anything physical, just make everything you do seem so petty and easy.

    I see your point and I do agree when somone who does not know anything about training bodybuidlings says steroids to a big guys it is belittleing, is like someone saying to a natural 'pfft,high protein diet, creatine,glutamine, caffine makes you look that way you dont work hard''

    watching this video just made me feel like the guy in ''bigger stronger faster''

    If boston is right and it is just 'chemical warfare' it makes competitive BB'ing seem really messed up, ppl probably like to hear these things, they certainly like to talk/see about paul dillet turning into a statue and other messed up stuff that happens.

    the pros that do say ''its 60% diet, 30%training and 10% celltech'' are probably saying that, because society is like ''sports tech supplements are bad''

    but I also think they say it because they like to take all the credit and dont like to admit its not all 'themselves' making there bodies look like that, its must be an ego thing.

    meh its all the governments fault for making juice illegal in the first place. I really do wonder what the REAL reason is for why juice's are illegal and not researched more. I hope in my lifetime someone challenges the law/politicians and succeeds.
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    Props to bostin loyd for exposing the lie that is pro bb. No matter how good your diet and training without aas you cant go pro. Having 20 to 30 times the normal amounts of test in your system along with gh igf1 insulin mgf peptides synthol enormous amounts of food n training turn ppl pro. Nobody becomes pro cuz of theyre syntha 6 shakes n creatine. Jus sayn
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    Originally Posted by bouncvybalder View Post
    wow what an idiot. have you seen the size of dallas mccarver? once dallas sees this i feel scared for boston if he evewr has to run into him in the gym.. o lawddd. dallas gonna give him a knuckle sandwhich
    Originally Posted by bouncvybalder View Post
    yeah thats smart lets snitch on the largest and strongest males on this earth. brb getting smashed and saying "uuughghhhh idk how this hbappened now i am in hospital coma" dont mess with the bull if u dont want the horn
    Are you guys brain dead? They're bodybuilders, not professional fighters.

    Originally Posted by dom1987 View Post
    Wonder why pros get so offended when ppl look at them and say ''hmm, steroids'' when it is true.

    Theres all this talk about how they are great athletes but if you take away the 1-2g of test and all the other stuff they take they would look nothing like they do?

    So in fact are they really great athletes or just drug abusers
    Lol, 1,000mg - 2,000mg of test is a cruise for a lot of guys.

    Originally Posted by naeDBrah View Post
    A lot of pros use synthol, even Shawn Rhoden.
    It is a lot closer to "every pro" than "a lot of pros," but there are some who don't, of course.
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    Hey guys lets sell our self respect, health and our buttholes so we can be muscly.

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    Hmm, kids should focus more on nutrition and recovery before the gear eh? So as to not have unfortunate accidents from inexperienced folks?

    Sure, let me spread equally as idiotic info about that as i do about the importance of gear.
    Brb eat 50 times a day, no carbs after 6PM, sleep 15 hours a day, drink your vitamins etc.

    All i'm saying is, if you're going to weasel your way out of an argument, make sure the other side of reality is actually true to your claim.
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    Originally Posted by MaKaiser View Post
    Hey guys lets sell our self respect, health and our buttholes so we can be muscly.

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    Lol drugs won't make you a champion or a pro i know enough guys to know this.
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    Originally Posted by Zirkon View Post
    Lol drugs won't make you a champion or a pro i know enough guys to know this.
    genetics always come first
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    There is still a lot of very sheltered people who follow bodybuilding, be it they don't want to believe the truth or just haven't been around long enough to know better. Not calling anyone out or anything but there are a lot of pro's who are known for being very casual with their intensity in the gym, Dillet comes to mind also wolf. I'll get flamed and abused for saying that but the truth hurts, 60% drugs, 30% diet, 10% training and even that 10% is a stretch. It's frowned upon to talk about actual events but I can attest to those numbers from personal experience, I'm not a pro sure but I do compete in open class and in 6 weeks will be on stage around 245-250 under 5% and have only just started to clean my diet up this week coming down from a fat 285+. Take that as you want, call me full of chit or whatever but I have walked a little of the walk and like to think I try to not bullchit people
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    is boston "loyd" related to f"loyd" mayweather?
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    Dallas should learn the dangers of throwing stones whilst living in glass houses. Dallas should just shut the **** up and move on; replying back and forth to Boston will only create a ****storm of frienzied internet ground and pound.
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    wow what an idiot. have you seen the size of dallas mccarver? once dallas sees this i feel scared for boston if he evewr has to run into him in the gym.. o lawddd. dallas gonna give him a knuckle sandwhich
    I know Bostin and he's a big dude himself. And that was when he was like 220, he's like 250 now. Don't think he's too worried about it.
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    Originally Posted by JackOo View Post
    Cool info man. Honestly I can only talk about guys I know who are on, and who train like animals, and have always worked hard, who do get offended when it's just put down to "oh they're on drugs". That's really all I can say about the subject, and that's my theory as to why some guys maybe get upset like that one poster above asked about (although I've never heard a pro get upset being accused of use, but whatever).

    As for how hard pros work. I would hope nobody here is stupid enough to think that drugs aren't in the number one position when it comes to results. Genetics second. Probably enough of us know regular gym rats who are on amounts that we aren't allowed to write about here, that are nearer the numbers 5/6/7 per week than the numbers 1 and 2, and aren't anywhere near as developed as any pro, no matter how hard they work. So I'm not trying to be naive about it.

    That's all I wanna say about it really. I think things would be different if celltech didn't exist in terms of who would be winning and who wouldn't even make it. I don't really buy into the belief that any of the top pros would look like **** though if it didn't exist, simply from a genetic point of view if anything else. And I honestly think that a lot of them do work harder than your average bb.com goer at the very least, lol, at least in my fantasy world.


    I think we are on the same page man I agree with you. My point was more that "regular guys" shoudln't undercut themselves whether they are regular gym juicers or natural. Those guys work hard...many work harder than pro's. It's just a fact...you may work harder than many pro's...I know I do...I know many naturals who do.

    It makes me sad when people undercut themselves and think "dang I just need to work harder and I'll be like a pro". Usually the "working harder" is not the problem.

    I've been around guys like mike francois who pack all their food...do everything right...I mean 100%...and train like crazed animals. I've also been with a top NPC competitor who was making fun of the "bodyubilding.com" group as he put it for thinking top bodybuilders care about diets and macros and packing lunches.

    he was slamming mcdonalds breakfast...never prepared meals...ate whatever he wanted...turned pro 4 weeks later.

    It's not that all pro's are "bad" or do g4p it's just that they are not so much better than regular guys who are dedicated to getting big. In fact most true naturals I know are FAR more disciplined and harder working than the pro's I've been around...outside a select few like Mike Francois.
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    Originally Posted by Zirkon View Post
    Lol drugs won't make you a champion or a pro i know enough guys to know this.
    it might not make you a pro simply because of your genetic shape but you can turn anybody into a 230+ pound shredded beast. It just dpeneds how far you want to go with it.
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    Originally Posted by lancs_hotpot View Post
    What does g4p involve? Obviously i have an idea using my imagination but you guys who actually know can you tell me?
    it can be anything. For most it involves nude picture tailored to the gay community. That is the starting point and it goes from there. Most pro's I've spoken to and from seeing things first hand many agree 50%+ do some sort of homoerotic pictures and really that isn't that big of a deal. Probably 10-20% don't do anything, another 10% or so strip and to "personal shows", and then you have the small group who take anal poundings, butt blugs, and a*s gaping videos...basically use your imagination.

    It's an ongoing joke at the arnold because there are a bunch of rich guys who show up in limo's who are rich as hell. They'll pay for pro's to go home with them and do things from watching them naked, watching them masturbate, up to and including anal sex and blowing them.


    g4p can be literally be as little as going home with a gay dude and standing there with your posing trunks on while they masturbate. You don't ever get naked or get touched you just stand there.
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    Originally Posted by Flex500 View Post
    and then you have the small group who take anal poundings, butt blugs, and a*s gaping videos...
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    Originally Posted by lancs_hotpot View Post
    What does g4p involve? Obviously i have an idea using my imagination but you guys who actually know can you tell me?
    You end up taking a lot of hot showers and telling yourself it was all a dream.
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