Ok, so I happen to have a lot of bulk Beta Alanine and bulk Agmatine. I also have bulk creatine. And Ive been sort of experimenting with making my own pre workout from scratch or at least adding either of these to pre existing pwo.
1) re: the creatine and Beta Ananine. How much benefit is there from SPECIFICALLY taking these pre workout, as opposed to just making sure you're hitting the 3g or 5g per day you calculate you need of each? (I do use the agmatine as a preworkout, but dont really see why creatine and beta alanine's timing matter).
2) Is there anything else you'd add to make a good preworkout other than JUST what I list above as well as caffeine? Like, most pre workout stuff has a ton of miscellaneous ingredients. Are any of them worth also picking up in bulk to add, or is the real benefit of PWO due only to beta alanine and agmatine and the rest is just to create a "propritory blend" to differentiate one premade form another?
What Ive been doing is taking Neurosurge, which is a "nootropic based" pre workout and has caffeine and adding agmatine, beta alanine, and creatine to it. Is this the best route? Or is there a better product out there that I could use as a "base" to which I add my agmatine, BA, creatine? Or just **** the concept of using a "base" and just drink ONLY caffeine, creatine, beta alanine, and agmatine with like crystal light and dont worry about any other ingredients whatsoever?