phil heath. i think he has reachd his potential

[thebestthereiz]

i dont see him going up from here? his frame is maxed out, he cant really improve anything? kinda dissapointing he will never reach ronnie level

[purdey]

i dont see him going up from here? his frame is maxed out, he cant really improve anything? kinda dissapointing he will never reach ronnie level

People have been saying this for years but he keeps packing on size. How would anyone even know if he is maxed out? How do you come to such a conclusion?

[B-Neva]

People have been saying this for years but he keeps packing on size. How would anyone even know if he is maxed out? How do you come to such a conclusion?

it's the internet, we all know

[Larfleeze]

People have been saying this for years but he keeps packing on size. How would anyone even know if he is maxed out? How do you come to such a conclusion?

While I agree this thread is retarded, neck aside, he hasn't really grown since 2011.

[tyronebiggums69]

I don't understand peoples logic when they say someones frame is maxed out. No idea how people come to that conclusion.

I remember people saying Phil was maxed out in 08.

[FAN0FdaSport]

i dont see him going up from here? his frame is maxed out, he cant really improve anything? kinda dissapointing he will never reach ronnie level

damn, sucks hes never gonna be better than someone he never competed against

poor phil, he cant make anymore improvements being already near perfect and all in 2011. All the other pros... lots of excitement with future improvements to be made. Phil's situation? Boring boring boring Mr Olympia

very sad times for the guy

[Coal Man]

i dont see him going up from here? his frame is maxed out, he cant really improve anything? kinda dissapointing he will never reach ronnie level

True, I remember Ronnie competing for so many years and maxed out by 1997 when he placed 9th. He should have just quit there, lawd knows why he even bothered.

[Deano87]

Who cares, maxed out or not, he's Mr.O
you think Kai's any less maxxed out?
get over it.

[thebestthereiz]

Who cares, maxed out or not, he's Mr.O
you think Kai's any less maxxed out?
get over it.

kai has more potential for growth and phil. and kai is already bigger than phil

[the5thhorseman]

kai has more potential for growth and phil. and kai is already bigger than phil

I can't believe you were repped, and now you're green! That was a disgusting thread you made, with how there's no point in watching the Olympia, cause no one will ever be as good as Ronnie.

[bartosh]

Maybe last year he didn't put on any new size in for the 2012 o because he was traveling all year doing stuff as reigning mr o. If he doesn't make improvements from 11 to 13, then i'll think he's stagnating

[kilsong]

i dont see him going up from here? his frame is maxed out, he cant really improve anything? kinda dissapointing he will never reach ronnie level

Who cares WHAT you think?
Who the fork are YOU?????

[realistromeo]

Phil has no where near maxed out and is relatively fresh in BB years as well. His receptors are still pretty receptive. 0_0


Phil may not have the widest frame, but he still can go full retard on a few body parts. Hamstrings, calves, lower lats, arms.. my gooness he could go retard on arms., he can work on chest striations and lower chest thickness... he still can impress, dex hit his ALL time best in 08 ALL TIME!
Phil can still stay breezy.

[PillClinton]

great... kurdish

[Musc1eBound]

The general public thinks THIS is "maxed-out"



That's why when a pro goes somewhere in public, people are literally in disbelief and awe at what they are seeing. So even being a fan of pro bodybuilding wouldn't allow us see when a Pro's frame is truly maxed-out.

[RepItOut]

The general public thinks THIS is "maxed-out"

Maxed and juiced..!!

[TropicalSunset]

Well to be honest, ha made NO improvement, if not even regressed from 2011, so it is not unfair to question whether he is maxed out. Very rare for a new Mr. O to not come with an improved package, unless they are on their way out.

[BartPimpson]

Phil's young age makes him something of an anomaly in this sport. He's only been a pro for about six years, so nobody knows where his limit is. Even veterans like Ronnie and Jay made surprising improvements late in their careers, so you can't predict what Phil is capable of.

Well to be honest, ha made NO improvement, if not even regressed from 2011, so it is not unfair to question whether he is maxed out. Very rare for a new Mr. O to not come with an improved package, unless they are on their way out.

He looked worse than 2011 at the prejudging, but at the night show he looked either the same or better.

[IngeKJ]

Don't be expecting another Ronnie. It's not for certain we'll ever see greatness like that before there is cell-tech with new flavors on the market.

[the5thhorseman]

I kinda agree, he looks like he has about as much muscle as his frame can hold.

[MaKaiser]

The IFBB section, where people know:

1) Pros exact cycles

2) Every pros Max potential

3) Exact burn out age

4) The winner of shows from off season pics.

I swear why do pros even bother lifting?

We know the outcome of everything already.

[co1e_train]

The IFBB section, where people know:

1) Pros exact cycles

2) Every pros Max potential

3) Exact burn out age

4) The winner of shows from off season pics.

I swear why do pros even bother lifting?

We know the outcome of everything already.

This

[TropicalSunset]

The IFBB section, where people know:

1) Pros exact cycles

2) Every pros Max potential

3) Exact burn out age

4) The winner of shows from off season pics.

I swear why do pros even bother lifting?

We know the outcome of everything already.

Hey a question for you. If you are not interested in speculating, because that is what it is, about this kind of stuff, why ARE you here. Because that is what the forum is for. Talking about what we THINK about the pros and their potential and packages they bring to the stage.

[MaKaiser]

Hey a question for you. If you are not interested in speculating, because that is what it is, about this kind of stuff, why ARE you here. Because that is what the forum is for. Talking about what we THINK about the pros and their potential and packages they bring to the stage.

I'm here because I like bodybuilding and like to follow what is happening in the sport.

I'm not here to make stupid ****ing outlandish claims like the current number one bodybuilder who is only 33 has no chance of improving his physique.

How about you take a little time to think before you post your next brain fart.

[jahaa]

I kinda agree with this, i think he can get bigger but that wont work for him. imo he was better in 2011 then 2012 when he was smaller.





Im not the biggest Phil fan but i really like his look in 2011, looks epic.

[tsiparlanaeht]

Hey a question for you. If you are not interested in speculating, because that is what it is, about this kind of stuff, why ARE you here. Because that is what the forum is for. Talking about what we THINK about the pros and their potential and packages they bring to the stage.

I'm here for sex and chat, not boddybuilding and stuff. ew.

[TropicalSunset]

I'm here because I like bodybuilding and like to follow what is happening in the sport.

I'm not here to make stupid ****ing outlandish claims like the current number one bodybuilder who is only 33 has no chance of improving his physique.

How about you take a little time to think before you post your next brain fart.

Been said a million times but I will say it again. The title of the thread was VERY clear. If you didn't care about it, why would you click it?

Please point out the improvements Phil made in the whole last year which he took off to "separate himself" from the competition. Kai improved, yet Phil came in the same, if not inferior version of 2011. I am not saying he might not prove that he can improve still, but OP made a valid point, which you can agree with or disagree with without childish name calling.

[Groggery]

Been said a million times but I will say it again. The title of the thread was VERY clear. If you didn't care about it, why would you click it?

The community itself wishes to moderate in cases where the mods themselves won't interfere.

We see a stupid thread, we try and bury it. We see an idiotic post, we make sure the guy who wrote it gets his nose rubbed in.
Without any moderation of any sorts this place would be filled with trolling and irritating newbies.

[Unbiasedfan]

Please point out the improvements Phil made in the whole last year which he took off to "separate himself" from the competition. Kai improved, yet Phil came in the same, if not inferior version of 2011. I am not saying he might not prove that he can improve still, but OP made a valid point, which you can agree with or disagree with without childish name calling.

When we see a pro bodybuilder like Freeman implie that phil won't improve much and being proven oh so wrong, i think we should always give heath the benefit of the doubt.

People kept saying he was maxed and he kept proving them wrong until 2013. Coming from a not so great (by his own standarts) showing will make it easier for phil to improve this year.

[mferrandi]

yes Phil Heath is pretty much maxed out. What? you thought a bodybuilder can build mass forever? Did you think every pro bodybuilder can achieve the mass of Ronnie Coleman or Markus Ruhl? Think again