I have been taking pre-workout supplements such as superpump max, Jack3d, and musclepharm assault, for a long time with very little negative effects. For the past week I have been taking cellucor C4 extreme and have developed a very negative side effect of shortness of breath and being hyper aware of my breathing. I am consciously aware of every breath I take and have to breathe deep. This doesn't just right after I take cellucor so I didn't know what caused it at first. It is most prominent when I am going to sleep or waking up.
After doing some research online I have noticed that this symptom is starting to surface in other people taking this supplement and I felt like I should post my experience here where I do not believe anyone has posted about it yet. I hope this will be a resource and a discussion thread for people experiencing this same issue. My guess is that it is the creatine nitrate causing it but I'm not sure.
The last time I took it was about 15 hours ago. I will discontinue using it and post back on if my condition is getting better.
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Thread: "Cellucor C4 Extreme" Warning
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07-15-2013, 11:05 PM #1
"Cellucor C4 Extreme" Warning
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07-16-2013, 03:48 AM #3
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You havnt changed anything else recently? I just imagine if it was the c4, this problem would have surfaced on this bored long ago. How much of the other pre's did you use, maybe a full scoop is a bit much for you.
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C4 is on the lower end of stimulants compared to the ours you have taken. Not to mention the only other major factors are ba and creatine nitrates neither which have shown that side effects your history reflects taking stronger stimulants than c4 which seems odd that a lower end slim would cause that. This is the first time I have heard of this myself
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07-16-2013, 06:21 AM #6
I've taken c4 for months never had any such affects on me so I can't really say much to help but your best bet is probably to stop taking it like you have and see if the symptoms go away, if they do then you start thinking about why c4 causes such a reaction but until then it could all just be coincidence.
One thing I am wondering though is whats the time frame from taking c4 to experiencing these issues, was it days of taking it before you noticed it or was it almost instant, for all we know it could even be you getting the shakes cause you've not had enough c4 in the last few hours
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07-16-2013, 06:22 AM #7
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OP, I HIGHLY doubt that your issues were directly due to C4. Compared to all the other preworkouts you have used, C4 really doesn't have any ingredients in it which you have not taken before in some of the other preworkouts you have mentioned to have used and enjoyed. From a stimulant perspective, C4 is pretty much comparatively has the lower if not lowest amount of stims compared to the other stuff you've taken and the stims in C4 are actually not something you have not taken before again, in the other preworkouts you have listed to have used and enjoyed.
So I don't understand why you made a "warning" thread about C4? Did you not bother to look at the label on C4 and compare and contrast ingredients with the other preworkouts you've taken and enjoyed previously?Completed Logs & Reviews:
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07-16-2013, 06:45 AM #9
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You are most likely correct, here. The etiology is allusive and it could also involve combining nitrate+stimulants, but removing the nitrate will almost definitely remove the issue.
edit: OP, just to assist my search for a clearer answer with respect to my own similar issues, how did you come to this conclusion? Nitrate causing labored breathing appears to be very rare; like, this is actually the first time I've encountered someone else on the forums who had the same problem.Last edited by PinchTheBear; 07-16-2013 at 07:01 AM.
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07-16-2013, 06:46 AM #10
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I recommend you to do some research between Creatine and Asthma. Why??? cuz now you mention that at first when i start to use C4 that happen to my. but i use to suffer from asthma, like 10 years ago, so i start to get some little attacks at night. i don't put to much attention to it, i just borrow my cousin asthma medication (ADVAIR) and i feel better 5 min later..... but now i still using it the C4 and no attacks so far. i lower the dosage, one scoop with 4-5oz 20-30 before workout.Workout Program:
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07-16-2013, 06:52 AM #11
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yup that's true, rig now this is how i work... Two pills of Twinlabs Creatine Fuel + 4-5oz of C4 done, not side effects, post-workout anabolic halo.
keep in mind, **Twinlabs (Creatine Monohydrate) **C4 cellucor (Creatine Nitrate) ** Anabolic Halo (Creatine Monohydrate) = 5g creatine total on my system. no side effects so far....Workout Program:
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07-29-2014, 06:59 PM #16
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08-16-2014, 02:51 PM #17
K I was wondering why all of a sudden that was happening to me, but it makes sense as I had just switched to C4.
I thought I was just a little stressed at work, but its this odd gasp of air my body makes me take. I'll be totally fine then my body is like breath 5x in a row fast. And I have no medical history of anything else wrong SOOOO I am with ya... so mark that down as 2 for the odd breathing issues.
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08-19-2014, 03:58 AM #18
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08-19-2014, 05:52 AM #20
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08-19-2014, 06:30 AM #21
This has nothing to do with C4 but I will share my experience. I started taking Jack3d the OG version about 3 1/2 years ago and was taking below recomended dosage. I started getting tunnel vision throughout the day. It would drop me to my knee and I would almost pass out. I discontinued the product and my symptoms went away for the most part. A couple of weeks later I had a physical for work. My HR was 155 BPM at resting. I was immediately sent to the medic and was put in a EKG. my heart would spike to 175 BPM and the rhythm was all over the place. After several attempts by the PA to get it back to normal they decided to introvert me. 131 Jules straight to the chest and two burns later it went back to normal. I was flown home that day and went to the cardiologist the next day. My heart was enlarged and very tired. I was in congestive heart failure and essentially very lucky in many ways.
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08-19-2014, 01:40 PM #22
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08-23-2014, 12:07 PM #23
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08-23-2014, 12:33 PM #24
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08-23-2014, 01:33 PM #25
Sounds to me like a sensitivity to stimulants in addition to some form of anxiety that is made worse by ingesting them. I have long suffered from anxiety at differing severity over the last number of years, even though I have learned to control it well I do find that stimulants just exacerbate the issue. perceived breathing issues are common with anxiety and thinking about each breath or ruminating about breathing in general just makes it worse...
Anyways, just a thought.Last edited by ialspach; 08-23-2014 at 01:53 PM.
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09-18-2014, 02:16 PM #28
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10-09-2014, 10:56 AM #29
Hi, i just started taking C4 too. I have moderate asthma (allergic to dust mainly,but I take meds), I used creatine monohydrate, stims like SuperPump MAX, N.O. explode, tried Jack3D and never had this issue with breathing, but with this product i have It comes a few mins after i drink it (1cup) and I drink caffeine frequently...so the problem will be with some of its components...
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10-09-2014, 02:09 PM #30
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